Church Logo Contest for existing Church

[makinprogress412]

(Admin code added by Palmer - 2245433)

CHURCH LOGO CONTEST $70

Deadline: August 1, 2003

Alright - I've seen your work and it's awesome. This contest was in the charity forum and now I am moving it over to the $$ forum. (BTW - A great big thanks to all of you who do charity cases when you can and please visit my youth ministry charity contest because youth ministries are never given any money).

Here's what was posted with some modifications:

Hey folks, our church has gone through some changes recently and we could use a fresh look for our logo. We are 12 years old and our original logo is quite out of date already and doesn't do much for us anymore (if it ever did). We are trying to design a new website but we need a logo first.

website template design contest to follow once logo is established

Church description: we are a cutting edge dynamic relevant and practical church. We are located in sunny, sandy beached, awesome weather most of the time, South Florida. We are a 12 year old church that meets in the gymnasium of a local high school. We are getting ready to move to a new high school that has a state of the art theater (yeah! no more setting up chairs at 6:15 AM every Sunday). Our average age is 37. We are located in Wellington, FL which is pretty affluent. Our church style is anything but traditional church. We use live music that is loud, dramas, movie clips, etc. and teach on relevant topics. It's a young church of professional yuppies, business owners, mostly white collar. Our church is what we call "trans-denominational" which means basically we recognize people have various backgrounds and we associate with 3 church denominations/associations with which we feel we are like minded: Southern Baptists, Willow Creek Association & Saddleback Community Church. Don't let that first one scare you. I figured if you knew much about us it would help with the logo creation and avoid wasting a lot of your time with logos that "aren't us." To get an idea of our previous logo (I will attach it) you can visit our new website that I made myself (so please don't laugh). Anyway, I think that is enough to get started. Links below may be helpful as well. Thanks in advance.
David
Pastor of Student Ministries

new-community.org (http://www.new-community.org)

Here are some similar church web sites that might give some ideas:

Saddleback Church (California) (http://www.saddleback.com/home/today.asp)

Northpoint Community Church (Atlanta, GA) (http://www.northpoint.org/index800.html)

Willowcreek Church (Chicago, IL) (http://www.willowcreek.org/)

This site is about the area of Wellington, FL to help understand the demographics:

Wellington, Florida (http://www.wellingtonet.com/history.htm)

Hopefully this helps you. Thanks again!

My comments from previous listing in charity forum:

"We are in S. Florida and are a modern type church with mostly young couples and teens and children. Mostly fairly affluent upper middle class people. Sunbursts, abstract people are O.K., but traditional icons are probably not an option. It's hard to say "let's not have a cross" because without that there is nothing to believe, but to many today it has no meaning, so probablly not a cross or other religious symbols. The heart of our church is to say to people who are un-churched (never experienced church) or de-churched (turned off from a previous experience) that we are not about religious rituals, rather a place where one can experience God personally and practically.

[netprofy]

Hello!
It is hard to get the symbolic of your chucrh. Are you looking for logo in the style like you already has? There are you going to use this logo: print, website, ad brochure? Do you have some prefernces in colors?

[makinprogress412]

Thank you for your question in trying to get a better idea of what we need and want.

It is hard to get the symbolic of your church.


We aren't looking for religious symbolism as much as a reflection of who we are. Maybe a diamond with a silohette of people in it. The diamond for us represents a process of bringing someone along in their spiritual lives from being a beginner to becoming totally connected in our community of believers. Some core values are as follows: "People matter to God." - therefore people or families represented could be one idea. Also, "Touching families, our community and our world with the mesage of J.C." - We are in the middle of crafting new mission statement, but we want this logo to be able to change with a name change that may occur in a year from now. Maybe a crest with the letters NCC, etc. Our community is golf, polo, equestrian and of course sunny South Florida in general.

Are you looking for logo in the style like you already have? Where are you going to use this logo: print, website, ad brochure? Do you have some prefernces in colors?

No, we are looking for something quite different than what we have. We are trying to get people to disassociate with our old logo and name and think totally new.

We will use this logo in our website (contest to follow once logo established), print - letterhead, biz cards, invite cards, program shells, etc. No preferences in colors at this point until I am able to show something to some of the other staff and get some feedback. Thanks.

[ejlain]

Hi, here are my first few ideas.

Thanks.

- Ed

[makinprogress412]

Ed,
Thank you, thank you, thank you! I will get some feedback in the morning from some other staff and give you some replies. I knew I could count on someone to get this thing rolling! I personally like all of 01-04 with 02 being my favorite. Probably not no. 5 at all. It looks as if most of these would work regardless of our name (it will change one day). Thanks for listening and responding.
Dave
New Community Church

[makinprogress412]

Ed, I've showed these around and I'm sorry to say we aren't hittin' homeruns with anyone. I sort of like no. 2, but the conch shells/diamonds (1, 3 & 4) aren't for us nor the sea horse/stars (5). The diamond thoughts I conveyed earlier are more symbolic of a baseball diamond. I think simple is good like no. 2. I wouldn't mind seeing it with some abstract people up to the right of the star shell in the same color as the teal/green you used. Anyone else out there with some ideas?
Thanks,
David

[makinprogress412]

More discussion has resulted in the decision that we shouldn't hand cuff you guys by saying to make it fit into a name change. If our name changes, then we'll just design another logo if we have to. Let's work on it around our name if that helps anyone. I would like to see if anyone has come up with anything. If anyone is working on something, would you please let me know. Thanks.
David

[jmberra22]

Hi there. Here is my first attempt. It is a very abstract representation. I incorporated a diamond shape, the circle represent people--like a choir. Any feedback is greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Jackie

[makinprogress412]

Thank you for your entry. It's good, but I think maybe the circles are a little too abstract. I like the diamond and shadow beneath. Possibly the people are less abstract so people will go "oh, those are people" or better yet, neighbors, friends, relatives that that church and God care about and are seeking to impact in a positive way. The colors could be more bold & bright like a brighter yellow and blue. Thank you and I look forward to seing some changes. We may be getting closer.

Another idea was maybe to create the diamond from hands/wrists linked together symbolizing unity, oneness, and people joining together. Just a thought. Are you all getting frustrated yet that we aren't quite sure what we want but will know it when we see it? Me too.

Thanks for your patience and keep 'em coming.

David

[jmberra22]

Hi David,

I will work on some more concepts. I was unsure as to how literal you wanted the logo to be, but now I have a better idea. You definitly gave me some good imagery on your last remark and I will work with that to try and create you a logo. Your Church sounds very interesting and inviting and I would like to portray that. Are there any other colors you'd like to see besides green and yellow? I will have something for you tomorrow afternoon.

Thanks, Jackie :)

[makinprogress412]

Jackie,
I look forward to seeing what else you come up with. The colors aren't as important right now, but I did like the tan & teal in Ed's design #02 (Ejlain). They need to be bright and bold, not drab. Hope this helps.
Thanks,
David

[jmberra22]

Here is my first attempt--something with hands, but also keeping the diamond shape. I will have more soon. Thanks.

[makinprogress412]

O.K. - a couple of thoughts on this one.

1) the hands - don't look like something I'd like to shake - looks mechanical, robotic, cold - needs to be more loving, touching

2) steel gray/blue combo looks too coorporate. It's a very clean look, but doesn't communicate cheer, love, family, excitement.

3) Please, don't feel like have to be locked-in on the diamond shape. If you have another ideas we'd welcome them. Your diamond here is good though.

I like where you are going and am thankful for the attempt. I would like to see it with different colors and softer hands. I like it, despite the critique. Thanks.


Thanks,
David

[ejlain]

A few more ideas.

- Ed

[ejlain]

Oops. sorry. A few more ideas (attached this time.)

_ Ed

[makinprogress412]

We are digressing. Your first work in 02 was better. Sorry.

[Taldo]

here's an idea...

[makinprogress412]

Thanks Taldo, this isn't too bad, though we were trying to move away from the palm tree look. It seems as if many churches in S. florida use a a palm tree or sun somewhere. The thread early on talks about the need for something new - but we still like your other logo for "thirsty" youth camp. Thanks
Dave

[makinprogress412]

Imberra - would really like to see your changes, thanks.

Anything else out there? Anyone working on anything??

[jmberra22]

Here is another option. Am I heading in the right direction? Color can always be changed, what about the design?

[ejlain]

A few more ideas.

Thanks

- Ed

[jmberra22]

Here is another idea in the diamond shape.

[makinprogress412]

NEW INFO THAT MAY HELP:

We've done a lot of brainstorming and have crafted a new purpose statement for our church. We will be revealing this new vision/direction in about 3 weeks and would like a new logo with this in mind. So, here it is:

New Community Church exists for the purpose of-

Expressing the heart of Christ by loving and leading our families, our community and our world to Him.

Purpose statement explained: we want to become the kind of church whereby our members love God so much and understand His great love for them that they begin to love people around them for one reason - people matter to God. And, this love will be so "contageous" that those being loved on can't help but know and experience God's love for them. And, thier lives will be so touched as a result of experiencing God's love, they will in turn begin to love God and love others around them. We want to become a contageous church of God's love. It's really an encredible truth that gets blurred by too many of God's people not acting like Him. We want to change that if we can (at least in our little world).

Some tag lines below the logo could be something like:

Expressing the Heart of God through love

Touching our world with God's love

Loving, living and leading our world to Christ

I don't know if this helps anyone, but so far we haven't gotten too close to a look that is getting anyone excited with around here. All I can say is keep trying. Thanks to all who have given input so far.

David

[Tonya]

http://www.frobo.com/graphic_work/newcomchurch/newcom2.gif

[makinprogress412]

Thank you Dynagirl for another try. I'm sorry to say this isn't quite the look. Though it's quite literal in its depiction of the world, God's love, and touching - it's probably too much focus on answering the purpose and not enough on a great looking logo. This one looks too feminine and a little too busy. We want something that is simple, but very professional looking (not cooperate but clean and crisp, classy, bold colors, not pastels, etc.). This one with the curvy heart and curvy people is pretty busy. The fonts and colors don't help much either. Let's try again.

David

[Tonya]

Thought I'd have another go at this one: a simple and universal message of peace, conveyed abstractly enough that it doesn't seem overtly religous. What do you think?

http://www.frobo.com/graphic_work/newcomchurch/newcom3.gif

[makinprogress412]

Thanks again for the try. Still a long way off. It would probably be helpful to backtrack and read the thread. Ejlain's first attempt at his #02 was a good try (and if I was the only one making this choice I think it'd be over already). Also, jmberra22's first and second tries were liked as well. They are very professional looking and moving in the right direction. The dove with the olive branch is not what we are looking for. You might want to try using the letters NCC incorporated into the logo or something. Thanks.
David

[makinprogress412]

Looks like we'll have to extend the deadline on this one. Anyone working on this???

jmberra22 - your work was very good and I like were you are going. Please don't give up or get discouraged.

Let me know if anyone is interested in tackling this. Please read the thread if so - it should save you some time. :rolleyes:

David

[makinprogress412]

Is there anyone interested in this contest ????? Please

[Tonya]

I'll give it one more try:

http://www.frobo.com/graphic_work/newcomchurch/newcom4.gif

[Taldo]

trying to get the "community" feeling....

[Taldo]

one more

[makinprogress412]

Sorry all for the slow reply. I had to cancel my DSL service :sick: and that's a bummer. It's been hard going backward in time.

Thank you dynagirl and taldo for your latest posts. I'll need to pass them around the office and get some feedback for you.

thanks
David

[makinprogress412]

Alright, after much discussion over all the graphically driven designs we really think we might need to just focus on a look that is designed around our name and more font driven. Kind of pretend we aren't a church for a moment and desing a logo like you would for any other company name. We would like to drop "of the palm beaches" from the design and use our slogan instead. We would like people to refer to us as NCC instead of the full name, so incorporating those three letters along with the name could be a good idea kind of like Ejlain's last post.

Our name is: New Community Church
Our slogan is: loving and leading people to Christ

We are really under a time restraint on this one. We are moving in about a month to a new location and we need to reprint all our media (letterhead, biz cards, etc.) and take out ads in the local newspapers in about 2 weeks. So, please, if anyone can work on this it will be greatly appreciated. Also, the prize is $70 just as a reminder. Thanks,
David B.
New Community Church
New Community Church (http://www.new-community.org)

[Tonya]

Could I get some feedback on my last entry (the last post on page 2). It focused on the letters NCC and wasn't church-ish, so it would help me in knowing which way to go next if I knew how you felt about--colors, font, style, etc. Anything you can comment on would be good. I basically want to know if there are any elements of it that you like.

[makinprogress412]

Could I get some feedback on my last entry (the last post on page 2). It focused on the letters NCC and wasn't church-ish, so it would help me in knowing which way to go next if I knew how you felt about--colors, font, style, etc. Anything you can comment on would be good. I basically want to know if there are any elements of it that you like.

Dynagirl,
Yes, this was more word driven. You're on the right path by including NCC and also the whole name. What we weren't thrilled about were the fonts. If our logo is going to be font driven the fonts would have to be very unique - almost custom. Also, what we didn't like about the graphic portion was that at first glance one sees a Japanese flag with the big dot and rays coming out of it (which I presume is a sun) The red and yellow colors create the Japanese sun feel as well. I like blue and grey with a slight corporate look but not too cold. Or Green and gold. I hope this feedback helps and can't wait to see what else you might come up with.
Thanks,
David

[Tonya]

Thanks David. That'll help me in trying to come up with something better.

[Taldo]

me again!

[Taldo]

:)

[makinprogress412]

Taldo,

Thanks for the recent tries. Not too excited about the first one (nice looking but seems a little too square and corporate looking).

However, your second one is catching our eye. We have some ideas for slight variations that we would like to experiment with as follows:

First, the "N" seems larger than the 2 "C's". If the top of the "C's" were brought up to the heighth of the "N" then maybe you could move the bottom swoosh line to the top and then have the top vertical swoosh tails of the "N" and the "C's" instersect with the horizontal swoosh line to create a subtle look of 3 crosses. On the bottom include the slogan: "loving and leading people to Christ" Also, you would probably have to move the church name to the top since the slogan is at the bottom, or play around with the location. Does this make any sense at all??? Well, if you can, give it a go - we would appreciate it. We like the look of the fonts that you made and thanks for listening to our post updates.
Thanks again,
David

To all: what I would like everyone to think about is this - design a logo that if you were driving down the street and saw a sign with this logo on it, you might be interested in stopping and coming inside just to check it out at least once, even if you aren't a "church goer." Just a thought.
Thanks
David

[Taldo]

:)

[makinprogress412]

Taldo, we are just about there I think. We have a couple further suggestions.

Here we go.

First, we are torn between the first one you did that we had you change and the second one with the brush stroked cross. The third one with the swoosh at the top trying to create the three crosses feel isnt' working and you probably new that before you started, but thanks for trying it for us anyways.

What we would like to see is both the first one (swoosh on bottom) and the third one (cross brushstroke) with some minor changes. (it would be helpful to number them for reference).

For both looks, the "N" still seems to dominate and overpower the "C's". If you could take out one of the angled downstroke lines in the "N" (maybe the smallest one) and thicken up the two large curves of the "C" to the same thickness as the "N" lines (and if you have to elimnate the small little arch on the left of each "C" to match the number of lines with the "N" that would be O.K. too).

Then for the first look with the swoosh line at bottom, could you add the tag line and change the swoosh color to the lighter fade for some contrast.

Then, for the cross design could you create a very slightly less angle of the cross so as not to compete as much with the angled lines of the "N"?

We would love to see both of the designs again to make a decision. I am curious - did you make the letters or are they from a font?

Great work and I look forward to seeing these subtle changes side by side.

David

[Taldo]

Hi David.
Here are the changes. It is a font that I played around with a little...

[makinprogress412]

Taldo,

Wow - you did everything we asked for to the "T"! Actually, to the "N" and the "C" :D

I noticed in #1 you did not "italicize" the tag line and in #2 you did. Just curious - which one do you like best from a design standpoint? They are both very good.

What do you think they would look like on a business card? Stationary layout? These would be neat to see if possible. Colors are perfect by the way.

By the way - did I say you WIN!

Thanks Taldo. I thought we'd never get it. We'll be talking in the am about specific files, formats and very minor changes that might be needed, if any at all. Thanks again!

David
NCC

[Palmer]

Thanks David :)

Congratulations Carol!!! :clap:

[Taldo]

Thanks David!
I like #1 the best I think with the tagline not italicized. Let me know what other chnages you would like and what formats you would like the files in. Thanks again!