[Project Complete] Due 30th Apr : DVD COVER - For Software Training - $172

[MediaRoots]

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I require a Front Cover, back and spine - to fit a standard DVD case. Template Template here (http://www.newenglandcd.com/downloads/dvd-amaray-case-wrap.htm#downloads) which you could use if you like. (Not from my printing company) - deliver in any format you like.

To start. I am about to launch a BRITISH company, which will provide training DVDs for programs such as Adobe Photoshop, Microsoft Office etc.

The key with being British is we want to avoid looking American at all, that means minimalistic (I have included a jpeg in one of my zip files called BAD, no offence to the designer, but is complete opposite to what I want. I have also included box of competitor VTC, who's boxes are awful. If Apple or Microsoft, we'd be Apple, this video is a good example of what I am trying to avoid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeXAcwriid0

Now as I mentioned, I will have a number of training products for Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Office etc. but I just want you to just design one 'template' if you like, you could use the new Photoshop CS3 as an example. Then I will adapt this for all of my products, like how Adobe/Macromedia etc have the same style boxes for all their products then just change the name and main image.

I really like the Adobe (link) (http://www.tolleson.com/project.php?uid=B0ADBC&client=D58C2D&referto=client&discipline=) and Macromedia (link) (http://www.tolleson.com/project.php?uid=AB3A4F&client=C8B67D&referto=client&discipline=) Tolleson Design. It would be good if I could change the colour of the boxes to align with the colour wheel for Adobe products (http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/images/wheel-o'-icons.jpg) and match any other product's colour. I'm not allowed to use any of the product's logos on the box, so I need to represent them all in some other way, keeping a consistent brand, but differentiating between products, whether that's some abstract image like Macromedia Studio 8 products, or using a different image to represent each one. Here is what a competitor's done (http://www.onelessbook.com/) (really cheap looking).

WHAT NEEDS TO BE ON IT: Use Lynda.com's (rival) cover (in zip) as reference point (their's is so/so (http://www.lynda.com/store/category.aspx?categoryID=76), it's better than others, not amazing).

Front - on the front, just need our logo (see zip, in vector - seems to look better on black though?), and text for product, e.g. "MediaRoots™", "Adobe® Photoshop® CS3", "Core Training", maybe also "video training" (optional). Total Training have tried to achieve this simplicity but I think their's actually looks really poor (see Total CS3 in zip).

Spine - needs to include the Mac Universal logo (included as EPS in small size and larger if needed) at the bottom and the windows vista logo (see attached to this message). And just put whatever else (less is more) on the spine, probably for PShop, like "MediaRoots™" (or our logo), "Adobe® Photoshop® CS3", "Core Training".

Back - Ok, as said, less is more, but is some stuff need to include. Using the Lynda cover as reference: Don't need any barcodes. Need a pic and name of the author (use Jamie pic in zip for now), resize it and crop it how you like, I will make sure rest fit this format and short bio (see sample bio.txt). Short desc of company (see company.txt), product description (lynda's is a fat block of unreadable text, we'll have a few paras, maybe some short bullet points) - maybe around 50 words - I haven't written this yet, so please use holding text like lorem iposum for now, duration for ours is about 5 hours for all of them, but lets not make this as prominent as on Lynda's - ours is quality over quantity, quicktime logo (in zip) and again the Mac universal (can be bigger this time but not huge) and the windows vista logo (see attached to this message) - same as the spine, the Mac specifications state that the two logos (mac and pc) need to be the same size though, one can't be bigger than the other to give more prominence etc. System requirements (see sys req .txt), ©MediaRoots, PO Box 123 Scotland ED1 2RD, support@mroots.com

Any Qs, please ask. Good luck!
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Competitors zip file (http://www.mediaroots.co.uk/competitors.zip) (ideas good and bad)

Resources zip (http://www.mediaroots.co.uk/resources.zip) (stuff you will need)

[LutFi]

Hi, I've been trying 2 days to download your given files from main link, but the host is still under in maintenance/upgrade, and it cannot be accessed.
From both alternate link, I've only got the same competitor.zip files, there's no resources files (logo of adobe, macosx, etc).

• Could you provide us the resource file?

Thank you.
LutFi

[MediaRoots]

Hi LutFi

Thanks for letting me know. I am not sure why people have that problem with MediaFire, a few people tell me it, but it is working fine for me.

I had put the wrong mirror obviously for the yousendit link.

Please find the correct resources file here:
http://download.yousendit.com/3F4E1F311EBA7E49

[LutFi]

Hi LutFi

Thanks for letting me know. I am not sure why people have that problem with MediaFire, a few people tell me it, but it is working fine for me.

I had put the wrong mirror obviously for the yousendit link.

Please find the correct resources file here:
http://download.yousendit.com/3F4E1F311EBA7E49


Hi. Thank you. the Link work.
Please give us little time to design.
I have good idea for your DVD cover.

Thanks.
LutFi.

[LutFi]

Hi. This is the dvd cover design.
Since the name of the publisher is MediaRoot, I use tree and its root for the main cover. Tree is symbolizing "well trained" people on the surface. And the main root are knowledge based on Core Training that provided by MediaRoot.

I use tree, horizon line, outline root, and simple gradient color to tied up the whole system.

Spine, I couldn't put everything logo that you wanted. it will be crowded.

For Back side and Spine I choose white, and photo using rounded edge.
I couldn't find product description sample in the resources file, so I put white space left under the author description for product description text.

Any comments will be appreciated.
Thanks
LutFi

[MediaRoots]

Hi.

Thanks very much for submitting the first entry.

It looks quite cool, but I have to say that I don't really see this tree you mention. Do you mean that it is the left side of the trunk?

I like the fonts that you have used on the front and spine and how the DVD-ROM logos looks over the background. However I think the main BG looks a bit out of place, the roots - of course, based on the Macromedia 8 one it can be abstract - but I think distract a bit from the main text having the roots underneath it. We can get rid of the 'MediaRoots' text if the logo is on the front as well, don't need it twice, and we wont have the author's name on the front.

On the spine, as I said - I like the fonts. I like how the spine are clean white against the contrast of the colour on the front, might look cool having a black spine with white text like the Macromedia one, I am not sure, black and white spine both seem to look cool.

We can also drop the author's name on the spine also - that will free up some space. Maybe if there is more space, could fit on the Mac+vista signs. Def as you say, don't want it too crowded and at the moment it does look a bit with the author's name there also, but if we remove that, then the logos only need to be like 1.5cm wide, so might not look too bad (could remove dvd logo from spine if needed as it's already on the front).

On the back - the system requirements are too big, those are not important, let's make them less prominent, can probably lose the 24-bit video support and sound card line if it's too much text. I like how you have the curved edge pic over the sqaured bg line. But there is too much space allocated to the author - the author on these is not really important, if we look at lynda.com his pic is prob too big. So we would have maybe a bit smaller pic, and less white space all around it as don't want attention drawn to that guy, could maybe put all in one column or something. Same with the info about company, that is not amazingly important, and prob don't need logo on the back either if is going to make too clustered, could lose DVD sign from back also if needed. We also need space for a description of the actual product - ah, I see that you said you couldn't find the description. Ok, let's try 50 words of lorem ipsum:

"Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Nullam eleifend ligula eget nibh. In scelerisque malesuada felis. Nam eros velit, tempor id, bibendum id, tristique ac, sapien. Vestibulum vehicula augue non ante sollicitudin auctor. Nulla a neque. Quisque consequat tristique massa. In in turpis a augue tempus rhoncus. Sed metus."

The arrangement of the logos could also be improved a bit, possibly could be stacked vertically like lynda, just the MAC/Universal has quite tall and deep edges.


To summarise: I like how you have incorporated the Adobe Photoshop colour scheme into the front of the design, clearly that could be adapted for the other products. I also think if it just said 'Adobe, Photoshop CS3, Core Training' - no other text on the front - it would be very minimalistic and look cool with that nice font. However I am not too keen on the tree design - especially the roots which I think are a bit distracting. It is also a bit basic if it's just a gradient, compared to: http://www.globaldata.pt/produtos/2016-Studio%208_box.jpg which as a bit of texture/blur going on that looks like a photo or something.


Sorry for the long comment. I am trying to give as much information as possible, but also feel free to ignore my advice in some cases as I have held a contest on here before and I think I gave too much comments and it went a direction I didn't want it to. -I've also just got back from a party and am a bit drunk so probably writing a load of rubbish anyway!

[MediaRoots]

The standard MAC wallpaper looks quite good:
http://www.alltimetv.com/www.WinMatrix.com/Apple_OSX_Wallpapers/Gallery_1/Aqua%20Blue.jpg

Another idea I had was to have different coloured smoke according to the product, means that it isn't just a solid gradient. See the attached txt file for URLs to examples.

[martellostudio]

Here's one from me..


Thanks,
vic

[martellostudio]

Thanks,
Vic

[martellostudio]

each one in the series can have a different color...
Thanks,
Vic

[MediaRoots]

Hi Vic

Thank you for this new design. It is a different angle.

You don't need to worry about posting 3D views too much. Just the standard pic will be fine.

I like the smoke effect, so with photoshop would be like a blue colour.

I think maybe some of the comments I left for Lutfi's design might apply here as well though.

The front is nice and clean, but too much prominence on the mediaroots logo, no one has heard of it, so can't be the main focal point over the actual product name which is photoshop training in this instance. The Adobe Photoshop CS3 is much smaller than the logo and also this title seems to be obscured a bit by the background. If I am using this pic then I would be moving the title up to the middle or above in the whitespace so attention is drawn to that.

We don't need company 4 times, the name over the green bg I don't really like too much. I think the DVD logo on the front is a bit too big also, and prob don't need it on the back as well.

The spine design is very nice. I like the fonts on the spine and the front.

On the back, again all the whitespace is around the logo, the logo is not really so important. we have 3 things to communicate: logo, photoshop (product), training. There is too much prominence on the author also, being centre with lots of whitespace below. I don't really like the system requirements layout either.

The main attention on the back we should make the product description probably. Is really 3 info - company, author, specific product. author is least important. I haven't written the product descriptions, so please can you just use some holding text like lorem ipsum for now. prob around 50 words or so. Sorry I didn't explain that in my original post, will add now, as they need to know like this training for photoshop teaches bla bla bla.

I do like minimalistic, but I think maybe the cover is TOO plain.

I prefer the direction of Lutfi's design at this point out of the two. Your idea is simple and draw's attention to stuff, but at the moment it is the wrong things with not really enough emphasis on the product.

Thanks again for the post, I hope my comments are constructive and not too demoralising.

[LutFi]

Hi Jack, Thank you so much for the very long feed back :eek:
:lol:

Here some points that has been made on this version:
• Removed mediaroot from cover and back.
• Removed the author from cover and spine.
• add the lorem gipsum.
• Removed the root outline from cover :(
• put mac+win logos on the spine.
• move the Core Training in spine.
• make the logos, photo, other text at back become smaller.
• I like your idea to bring 'Core Training' as one of the focal points, so I put it on the top of back.


FYI, spine is 1.25 cm. its safezone is only 0.8 cm.
I want test using all black color at back, but I must sure first that your printer house can print white text very crisp with 6pt size over black background.

That's all.
Thanks
LutFi :lol:

[MediaRoots]

Hi Lutfi. Very nice.

I just checked with my printer and he is just an inkjet printer or whatever their called (not lipho)
He doesn't really know what the hell I'm talking about but said:
"No mate there is no such thing as a white toner it would have to go litho for something like that". He says can send him a rough design so he can see what you mean exactly, or can send him a design and he'll print it and see how it looks.

I am sorry for the long comments. Here's a short one: 'its nice!'...
ok I say a bit more. That top bit on the front is nice. Good simple text on the front. I like the spine. I like at the back how there is attention drawn to product description and space for expansion etc. system requirements and logos are good layout. What I might consider is at the moment bottom half it seems to be 3 columns, requirements, blank space, company+author. I might consider moving the description of the company to that middle column so it could be a little bigger text maybe. I would then move the author to the top of that 3rd column and have it so the Mediaroots address etc are in bottom right of the 3rd column.

So overall, all good. I like the new front design better. If you wanted, could try adding a bit more texture to it a-la Studio 8 and the standard apple desktop: http://www.alltimetv.com/www.WinMatrix.com/Apple_OSX_Wallpapers/Gallery_1/Aqua%20Blue.jpg
but is ok at the moment. Just thinking at the moment, I sent my printer the design and he probably though "yeah that's nice", he didn't say what he thought about it, but hopefully thought it was nice, just wondering if we can make him fall off his chair?

[Fabian]

Hi ,are you still open to other designs, if so can you repost all the zip files as they have expired on the yousendit's server.

Cheers
Fabian

[MediaRoots]

Hi Fabian. Of course I am open to other designs mate, I like your work. sorry for them expiring, I'll put them on my own ftp that would be a better idea then they wont run out. 1 sec

[MediaRoots]

Here we go:
Competitors zip file (http://www.mediaroots.co.uk/competitors.zip)
Resources zip (http://www.mediaroots.co.uk/resources.zip)


"Clients : The more feedback you offer designers the more choices you will get to choose from.Thanks"
I think you might like this contest then!

[Fabian]

Thanks:)

[Fabian]

Needs a little work,but this is what I had in mind :)

[MediaRoots]

Hi Fabian. Thanks for the post. I'm sorry, I'm not too keen on it, it just doesn't really look as professional as the other ones. The cover bg might be alright but I'm not too sure as the gradient didn't come out very well. I also really don't like the chunky font.

On the back, the different text fields are not separated enough, at the moment when you look at it, it is hard to identify what goes with what, there is also too much focus on the author really.

Overall I think would just need to increase the fonts, better usage of whitespace and sorting out the front cover gradient.

At the moment Lutfi's design is most on the right track, because it is very clean and professional looking, draws attention to the right info, nice use of fonts. I hope this info helps.

[MediaRoots]

would be good if we could get some texture into it like I've attached. I will see if i can find some pics. I am very interested in all black side and back though LutFi as the contrast achieved on the studio 8 design against the colour is good. We could then switch that dipped bit at the top to grey or white or something (can the front and back top tip bits be the same shape+size if you continue that theme though please front shape). Regarding the text white over black, surely 6pt will not be readable anyway? I have been speaking with my print friends, they are saying really 7/8pt is considered a minimum size for print text?

[bogglins]

hi.. what is the deliverable file format for the final design?...

[bogglins]

...and btw, is it OK to use the mac/win logo freely?.. or you have the permission already?.. i don't know...

[MediaRoots]

Hi Bogglins. Because I'm going to be changing the text for each one and the colours etc, obviously I will need the 'source' file shall we say, as opposed to just a flattened jpeg.

But really you can use any program you want. I would recommend probably if you sent me a .PSD if you used photoshop, a .AI if you used illustrator, .whatever if you used quark, inDesign etc. Whatever you feel most comfortable using. I can then take it from there as the printer is my friend so he said I can just basically send him any type and he'll just print it! Hope that answers your question a little.

[MediaRoots]

and in regards to the win/mac logo. Yes, I have the license to use the Mac Universal. Usage guidlines here if you wish to view them:
http://developer.apple.com/softwarelicensing/agreements/pdf/universal_gdlns.pdf
that is why I was saying I think it has to be included on the spine.

With the Vista logo, there are two types you can get permission to use. One type:
http://ww1.prweb.com/prfiles/2006/12/08/489077/clearspcCertVista180.jpg
You need to send off to some independent company, pay $400 etc.

But the works with vista logo that I have included artwork for above, I have provisional permission, I just need to pay them $90 when the design is ready.

Hope that answers the Q -> Answer = yes, I have permission!

[bogglins]

Hi..
Thanks for the info..
so, basically it's just a kind of template.. which you will change the title for different tutorials... I guess we have to put bleed around it for cut/trim..

thanks!
-Pieter
:)

[MediaRoots]

Hi. Yeah just a template, what I've said is like what LutFi's done is an example of how the design would look for photoshop, that one's blue, then if I wanted to change to flash, I'd just make it red etc. design could be varied more than just changing colour for each one if you wanted. like i said in message 7, could have different variations of coloured smoke for example or something.

In regards to the bleed. My friend says 3mm? Basically that is not essential, please do if you know how, if not, I will take care of it. Thanks

[martellostudio]

Changes have been made....

Thanks,
Vic

[martellostudio]

Another option for you... again.. you can change the color of the smoke for each training dvd.

Thanks,
Vic

[MediaRoots]

Hi Vic
Is definitely an improvement on your original design. I see you've taken my advice about the smoke on board and I'd say I do prefer the new pic.

The only thing is that it seems to lack a bit of vibrancy and standing out with so much whitespace on the front, as the smoke only takes up that small colour and is semi-transparent even so. I would recommend if we can inject some colour to the front and switch the spine and back to black which I would recommend for the designs now as it gives a good contrast. Overall the layout of the back is very good though.

[martellostudio]

One with background color...

Thanks,
Vic

[MediaRoots]

Hi. That makes it look lots better. I will show it to my friend, see what he thinks, will give you feedback on it tomorrow as is late (I am GMT of course).

[LutFi]

Hi Jack. Thank you for your previous "shorter" feedback. :lol: ....I do really enjoy working with you.

Some points made in this revision:
• Front cover, let's tried your suggestion with different style.
• At back, I follow your direction to move the description of the company to that middle column.
• I also made all the fonts at back bigger. Before is 6 point. In this revision is 7 point.
• Some how, I still feel empty in the middle column, so I move the sysreq under the description of the company.
• Let's tried using color background at back.
• All text at back are black color since the beginning. Now it looks grey because it use color background. You can't do print test with all of these post. It's only for viewing online.

Thank you for directly contact your printer house. I really appreciate it.
That's all for now
Thanks.
LutFi.

[LutFi]

Hi.

This time, I tried black spine and blackish color on back side.
All text on the back now, all is white.

[MediaRoots]

Hi LutFi. I prefer design number two, the darker grey. Looks very nice. Layout on the back is improved, overall very nice. Only thing that I am not too sure about is the front gradient work. It looks pretty good on the back, but on the front looks quite sharp, not really too fluent, but I appreciate that you are trying to create (vector?) original gradient designs. I'll see what my friend thinks of the new gradients, otherwise I'll look for some pictures.

Another idea I've just had that could give a different option (feel free to ignore this if it will look sh*t). Could follow Apple's design, a-la:
http://www.uofabookstores.com/uaz/CATS/Software_Images/Apple_LogicPro.jpg
http://www.professional-pr.info/Apple/Bilder/05/fcstudio/fcp5/fcp5box.jpg

And have a solid light to dark blue gradient with a camera to represent photoshop whacked over it. Could then change to a paintbrush for illustrator. That is another option, however my competitors already have pictures to represent the products as you will probably have seen from the competition zip, and they look crap.

Not sure, but it's coming along nice.

One change we will need though is on the Quicktime logo.
According to the guidlines:
http://developer.apple.com/softwarelicensing/agreements/pdf/qt_logo_gdeln.pdf
we need a white square around it, with a black outline and can't change the colour of the quicktime text. ~Cheers - jack

[bogglins]

a draft..

[bogglins]

:)

[MediaRoots]

Hi bogglins

Thanks, this design follows my spec and gives an interesting variation. i will discuss with my friend.

[ElKootcho]

Another for your perusal...
http://www.mastersofprint.com/PS3_DVD.jpg

[MediaRoots]

Hi ElKootcho. Thank you for the design. I will discuss it with my friend. But some obvious problems are: 1) don't have the rights to use the certified for vista logo, needs to be the works with vista logo. 2) MAC/Universal logos can't be seperated according to their spec. 3) Quicktime logo needs to be a white square for it's bg, can't be a rectangle.

It is definitely a nice alternative apart from those logo issues, the only other thing that i would be looking at is that the logo up the top looks quite sharp edges, doesn't seem to fit that well. Thanks ~Jack

[MediaRoots]

FEEDBACK FOR EVERYONE
Best Spine: bogglins (though would change logos)
Best Front: ElKootcho/LutFi (just front graphic we not sure about LutFi)
Best Back: LutFi (got problems with it though)

Ok everyone, we discussed, prob looking for an all black back cover and spine, highlighting contrast against the colour front.


LutFi - we want a solid black bg, white top bit. the text also needs to be laid out better on the back. I've done a crappy mockup of how the text COULD be laid out better using 3 columns, so that everything relates to each other, author pic with author text, company description with company address, requirements with logos etc.

I think my business partner is going to do another mockup afterwards. these are aimed to give direction, but I posted a mockup on my last project and it all went to shambles, so please feel free to submit stuff nothing like this.

[LutFi]

Hi Jack,

Some points made in this Version # 5:
• Back side : gradation based on your suggestion.
• The whole text (beside product desc) at back is bigger. Before is 7pt. In this version is 8 pt.
• I'm back using the original Quick Time logo.
• Re-compose the spine based on your feedback.
• The front, I've seen you mention about too sharp. So I make it softer and I made modification in the front. I remove the horison line. All color gadation is still consistent to PSCS3.

That's all
LutFi

[MediaRoots]

Hi Lutfi.

Thanks mate. But this cover is not good blurred.

The spine is good, the back is better. Maybe on the back might look good a horizontal separator half way down like you had originally.


I think we'd prob be best using an abstract photo.

I've been playing around with some photos I got from our friends at the sxc.hu I will need to ask my friend what he thinks tomorrow, they are prob crap. but here's some ideas (attached)

[bogglins]

:)

[MediaRoots]

bogglins. thanks for the update. I do think that font on the front looks alright. Content on the back could is laid out well so that it is clearly in different sections, but I think could benefit from being in more than one column so less linear. I am also not keen on the front BG pic. I posted some pics in my post above yours, which just have a bit more texture, something going on all over sort of thing. I don't really know what I'm looking for! But just don't really like that pic. Thanks!

[bogglins]

hi..
easy to get notice...

[MediaRoots]

This orange one actually looks quite alright. I think we can get more texture and more colour into the front still though. At the moment, only about 3rd of the front is colour. We want massive colour injection on the front to contrast with black on the back.

[bogglins]

again.. :)

[MediaRoots]

could you post it a bit bigger like your other designs if possible please. thanks

[bogglins]

bigger

[bogglins]

:)

[ElKootcho]

another
http://www.mastersofprint.com/PS3_DVD2.jpg

[ElKootcho]

And a revision to my first layout
http://www.mastersofprint.com/PS3_DVD3.jpg

[MediaRoots]

bogglins. sorry, I am not too keen on the cover.

ElKootcho - post no. 51, the one with the smoke is prob the best one we've had. We've made some changes to it. removed the green boxes, made it brighter, changed position of content so is like right side of sys requirements match right side of text and stuff like this. added logos to the spine, green border round guy, stuff like this.

This is the direction we are liking, solid black bg, contrast against the colour on the front.

[MediaRoots]

you need to add our address and copyright details on there btw which would go where it says (c) lynda.com, that would make that taller, so logos on left would be moved down so bottom still lines up.

[bogglins]

as described...

[MediaRoots]

Hi Bogglins. We would need full colour on the front, no black gradient effect like the ones so far - so is like an injection of blue on the front. This is to contrast a strong colour on the front against a solid black and spine. I would also see if we can get some green to colour out the titles on the back.

Thanks - from Jack

[bogglins]

:)

[MediaRoots]

Hi Bogglins.
Sorry for the further changes, but can the min sys reqs, contact details etc. be switched sides with the logos, so logos on the left. instructor have a green border around it, not white. dvd logo removed from spine - mac and vista logos added to the spine as I have in my post no. 53. thanks

[bogglins]

revisions...

[MediaRoots]

cool, thanks. will show it to my friend tomorrow

[ElKootcho]

ElKootcho - post no. 51, the one with the smoke is prob the best one we've had. We've made some changes to it. removed the green boxes, made it brighter, changed position of content so is like right side of sys requirements match right side of text and stuff like this. added logos to the spine, green border round guy, stuff like this.
Changes made based upon your comments
http://www.mastersofprint.com/PS3_DVD4.jpg

[LutFi]

:whistle:

[MediaRoots]

bogglins - I'm not gonna waste your time mate : we're not too keen on it. Feel free to submit more entries if you wish, but at the moment we are feeling these other two's style more.

ElKootcho - Nice work. We've got some changes for the back layout again having looked at it further (please see our attached pic), only differences to pic on the back will be Adobe Photoshop CS3 in white and 'System Requirements' in white.

LutFi - Loving this new cover - did you design it somehow or is it a pic? We want you to change the back to this layout that I have told ElKootcho to use, again the colour changes I do mention above, but we'd like you to change the headings to the same fonts that you've used on the front, ditch the white dip on the back. We also need to look at the logo on the front, the colour seems to have got a bit distorted (prob coz of the amount of changes!). But please use this new back layout, so green border round the pic etc. We also (despite really liking it) didn't think your front cover stood out enough, so I have just done an example of adjusting the contrast so overall more vibrant, and I used dodge tool to enhance the shadow parts (obviously a pretty **** job, but you get the idea!)


ElKootcho + LutFi - with this background now decided, we'll mainly be looking for possible variations on the front cover if possible please, so is like vibrant, injection of colour, abstract etc.

Thanks
Jack

[LutFi]

Hi.
This is version # 7.
I've adjust the back layout based on your guidellines, also adjust the front color, overall more vibrant, and enhance the shadow parts.

Thanks
LutFi. :whistle:

[MediaRoots]

Hi LutFi

on the back, I think Core training needs to be a little smaller, maybe not bold, needs to be in-line with Adobe above it also.

Is looking a little clustered on the back, so lets remove the 'other titles' section in order to spread out the spacing a bit more.

John Uliman and MediaRoots should be bold and green within the text as shown in my example above.

Macintosh and windows should also be green as I have shown.

I am not keen on the front. Your original looked much better. The shadows do not look pro, too strong. also it is pretty dark, not vibrant enough. I have attached a PSD (I use pshop cs3, but should work for you, where I've just added some adjustment layers playing around with settings to make it vibrant, will prob look **** printed, but gives idea what I am looking to do).


I mean I can play around with the text placement on the back really when I select the winner, so is now just focusing on getting the perfect front.

Thanks
From Jack

[MediaRoots]

LutFi - is the front a stock photo by the way or did you make it yourself using some program?

Let's focus solely on the front for now while I work out a small issue.

[MediaRoots]

Ok forget that. lets just actually STOP WORKING on everything while I work to resolve an issue with the site management that someone has complained about.

LutFi, the question still stands, just to know, is the front an original image that you made in illustrator or something or a stock photo which you've manipulated?

Thanks

[LutFi]

Ok forget that. lets just actually STOP WORKING on everything while I work to resolve an issue with the site management that someone has complained about.

LutFi, the question still stands, just to know, is the front an original image that you made in illustrator or something or a stock photo which you've manipulated?

Thanks

• Ok, lets stop now take a break little bit.

•About the front cover it's my original creation.

• The front cover is not using others texture/stock photo.

That's all
LutFi

UPDATE 4/17 : Client ask directly to stop the whole process on previous message.

[MediaRoots]

ok cool, I did not know that it was an original graphic, it's nice.
ok then I just need to check with my business partner, but we will probably go with your post no. 62 but with a green line around the pic like 64. Can I just ask what is the difference between the body text of 62 and 64? Did you just change the colour or the opacity of it? because it seems to be the same size and the same font. Also, this dropping down black bit on the front cover at the top. would it be possible to send a close-up preview of a bit of the detail on that so I can see what this outline is looking like, I do not know if it needs changing from this size, could be a drop-shadow or a white line. So just a little section of that top bit zoomed in a bit further. Let's not move this to the revision forum just yet till I confirm with my friend though. Thanks - From Jack

[LutFi]

Some points made in this revisions:
• Re-layout the back.
• back text using size 8pt
• Core training at back smaller. in-line with Adobe above it.
• Add green and bold text at back.
• The front is using cover from message # 62. As you requested.

About body text of # 62 & 64:
• 62 using size 7pt
• 64 using size 8pt
• the color same white 100%.

That's all
LutFi.

[MediaRoots]

Ok. Please can you post a closeup of this bit I've attached, maybe a few times bigger so I can see if it needs any changes. Thanks

[LutFi]

here is the closeup

[MediaRoots]

Ok that looks excellent.

I now announce LutFi the winner. Thanks for the entries from people like ElKootcho, you had good work also. I just think an original design on the front cover has decided it for me.

LutFi, please send me the file, first right clicking all text layers and selecting convert to outlines.

Thanks

[LutFi]

Hi,

A link to download your files has been sent to you by private message.
Please go to the following link to find the message http://www.designoutpost.com/forums/private.php?

Thanks.
LutFi

[MediaRoots]

Thank you LutFi, files received. This is designed fantastically

[BlueCherryGraphics]

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