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mrogers
04-26-2007, 08:17 PM
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Project Summary:

What text should be included in the main part of the logo?
budgetpronto (I’m open on different capitalization – budgetPronto, budgetPRONTO, etc.).

What type of product or service do you offer?budgetpronto is an online budgeting tool. It allows users to plan and track income and expenses over time.

How long have you been in business?
This is a new business.

What do you hope to accomplish with your new identity?
budgetpronto is geared towards families, so I’d like to generate an easy-going sentiment for users. The product deals with users’ finances, so the logo shouldn’t be outrageous. That being said, I don’t want the logo you’d expect see for a 100 year old financial advisement firm. This is an online application, not a desktop application, so its users expect a bit of an edge.

What are your long term goals?I hope to eventually target businesses as well, so the logo must translate well to corporate users. Nothing cheesy or too trendy.

When is the deadline for final entries before choosing a designer?I am not on a strict time table, so let’s say the deadline is May 12.

Audience Profile:

Please describe your existing audience
No existing audience – this is a new product.

Who would you like to add to your audience?
My audience will be more female, but not overwhelmingly (I figure 60% will be female.) For the time, I’m only focusing on English speaking, mostly in the United States. Most will be doing basic research for my line of product, so I need an identity/logo that will stick out from my competitors long enough for the user to come back to my site after checking out all options.


Perception/Tone/Guidelines:

What type of logo would you like?
My app is stylized somewhat like Web 2.0 apps. It isn’t a mashup, but it does incorporate heavy AJAX and user-friendly interfaces. http://www.fontshop.com/fontfeed/archives/the-logos-of-web-20/ has a listing of some Web 2.0 logos. Samples of logos I like:

http://www.zimbra.com/ - I like how the image is integrated with the text. I’m not too hot on the font.

http://www.zopa.com/ - I really like modified fonts – where some of the letters in the text are adjusted.

http://www.pando.com/ - This is my favorite as far as fonts go.

http://www.shoutwire.com/ - I like how clean it is. The mirror effect is a little too trendy for me, but it is done tastefully on this logo. I think I’d rather go with all lowercase text than anything else, but I’m open.

http://www.standpoint.com/ - I don’t like the drop shadow on the image (again, a bit too trendy), but I love how the logo portrays the intent of the site.

http://www.dropsend.com/ - Another good image. Not sure I like the use of a gradient in the text.

http://www.podzinger.com/ - Simple yet memorable, even though there really isn’t an image.

Some logos I don’t care for:

http://www.clipshack.com/ - Way too busy, looks like an amateur job (my apologies if it was crafted by anyone on this forum.)

http://www.reminderfeed.com/ - I think I used that font in the 80’s for those 10-page banners printed from my dot-matrix.

http://www.xanga.com/ - great name, what’s the deal with the image? No connection to the site or text. Too many colors.

http://www.bloglines.com/ - I’ve got that image in my clipart gallery somewhere…

Do you have any colors in mind for your logo? (if so, why?)
I’d like to see what the designers come up with. The obvious colors would be the official colors of Web 2.0 (http://miles.burke.id.au/blog/2006/02/03/the-web-20-secret-weapon/). Please feel free to stray from these choices. Once the logo project is completed, I will be posting to the web template forum for the website graphics. I intend to use the colors of the logo for the colors of the website, so keep that in mind.
In addition, I’m 99% sure the two words in the text should stand out (different color or something) from each other.
I’ve been using (http://kuler.adobe.com to look at some color combinations that might work. Some that I like are “Orange on olive”, “Basil Lemonade”, “Citrus”, “Red and smooth”, “Dark Beer”, “sea_stone”, and “Relax.”

Do you have any specific images or icons in mind that you would definitely like to see incorporated into your logo?
No. In fact, an image isn’t necessarily required.

Communication Strategy:

What attributes would you like your logo to reflect about your business?
I’m not trying to hide the fact that this is a new (inexperienced) business, so the logo doesn’t have to be the standard financial logo (navy blue with a triangle somewhere.) But it must be unique and professional, not comical.

What is your tagline or slogan?
I don’t have one yet, but when I do add one it will be physically separate from the logo (probably to the right of the logo if anyone cares.) If you want to include a tagline in the logo, take a shot at it.

What is the overall message you are trying to convey to your target audience?
This service is easy to get started with and provides value to families (or individuals) unsure about their finances.

Where will your new logo be used?
My only concern is with the web. If the logo does need to be printed on business cards, stationary, pens, mugs, etc. later on, I’ll deal with that then.

Competitive Positioning:

Who are your competitors and what do you think about their logos?
http://www.mvelopes.com/ (http://www.mvelopes.com) - this is my main competitor. The logo is just text, so having my logo be more memorable shouldn’t be too challenging.

http://www.budget-master.com/index.php?page=0 (http://www.budget-master.com) – no logo.

http://budgettracker.com/login.php - I’m sure this was a self-made logo.

http://www.myspendingplan.com/ (http://www.myspendingplan.com) - by far the best looking logo and site of the bunch. The text in the logo looks good, but the image looks a little cheap.

List competitive URLs if possible
See above.

What sets you apart from your competitors?
Ease of use, family-oriented.

Targeted Message:

State a single-minded word or phrase that will appropriately describe your company:
Easily organize your finances in minutes.
Some additional thoughts: The logo needs to be able to fit in a space no larger than 200 pixels wide by 45 pixels high, so this pretty much means any image must be to the side of the text, not above or below it. My initial design of the header has a silver gradient where the logo will be.
I apologize if I’ve been too vague with some of the answers (this is a brand new site so there are no existing restrictions, and I don’t want to taint the designers with my pre-conceived ideas of what the logo should be) and too verbose with others. If you need further clarification on any point, please don’t hesitate to ask.
Thank you in advance for all your effort.

nhr
04-29-2007, 07:02 PM
Hello :)

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b92/nhrdesign/DO_/budgetpronto10_nhr.png


(font is customized, small image is 200x45)

nhr
04-29-2007, 07:03 PM
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b92/nhrdesign/DO_/budgetpronto11_nhr.png

Thank you.

mrogers
04-30-2007, 08:28 AM
NHR - Thanks for starting this off. I like the font and the play on the b & p. I think I'd like to see something that "looks" fast, if you know what I mean. Keep the ideas flowing!

freetime
05-01-2007, 01:08 PM
A look from me.

freetime
05-01-2007, 01:09 PM
v2

nhr
05-01-2007, 04:36 PM
NHR - Thanks for starting this off. I like the font and the play on the b & p. I think I'd like to see something that "looks" fast, if you know what I mean. Keep the ideas flowing!

Thank you for the feedback :)
Same, but more dynamic concept:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b92/nhrdesign/DO_/budgetpronto20_nhr.png

mrogers
05-01-2007, 09:52 PM
freetime - I like #5, the middle one without the gradient. The "t" and "P" pushed together looks good. I'm still looking for something a little more unique than standard text, whether it includes more customization of the font, an image, or whatever.

NHR - Moving in the right direction. The jagged image definately gives a "fast" look, but the uneveness seems to throw off the rest of the logo. Not sure if that can be helped or not.

Thanks for the continued effort - I'm excited to see more!

freetime
05-02-2007, 06:05 AM
Thanks for the feedback! Here is a look with an icon.

freetime
05-02-2007, 06:33 AM
Here's another look.

shnickerdoodle studios
05-02-2007, 06:36 AM
One from me..
Thanks, Deanna

Leclerk
05-02-2007, 06:49 AM
http://www.logoholik.com/do/logoholik_bp_01.jpg

Leclerk
05-02-2007, 06:59 AM
http://www.logoholik.com/do/logoholik_bp_02.jpg

mrogers
05-02-2007, 07:04 AM
freetime - these are looking good. I prefer #9. I'll let it sink in and give some more feedback.

Deanna - thanks for the entry. I love the font. And while I'm trying not to even look at colors yet, I like the ones you used. My only complaint is that the first "o" with the ring looks too much like a vinyl record.

Logoholik - I think I'm still leaning toward a less busy design like your entry. I don't really care for the font - maybe it's the letter spacing, but it's a bit tough to read at a glance. Also, I'd like to see some variations on the image, but not so much that it makes the logo busy.

Everything so far has been great. I'm still wide open on ideas, so keep them varied. Thanks for all the effort.

shnickerdoodle studios
05-02-2007, 07:29 AM
Here is a variation... Thanks, Deanna

freetime
05-02-2007, 07:34 AM
another look

Blesseville
05-02-2007, 11:44 AM
http://www.blesseville.com/do/bpr1.jpg

Blesseville
05-02-2007, 11:45 AM
With another font.

http://www.blesseville.com/do/bpr2.jpg

OffbeatDesign
05-02-2007, 12:25 PM
Thanks

OffbeatDesign
05-02-2007, 12:29 PM
Version 2

nhr
05-02-2007, 04:00 PM
Hello again :)

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b92/nhrdesign/DO_/budgetpronto30_nhr.png

nhr
05-02-2007, 04:01 PM
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b92/nhrdesign/DO_/budgetpronto31_nhr.png

Thank you.

mrogers
05-02-2007, 06:00 PM
freetime - still thinking about #9. Can I see it with the font the same size and the image smaller? I like #16 better than #10, but it doesn't stand out to me like #9.

Logoholik - I see you posted #13 before I could get my last comment posted! Same issue with the font as #12. The images on both of them look too generic to me - nothing that would be memorable to me.

Deanna - #15 still isn't what I'm looking for. Maybe someething to make the "o"'s look more like "o"'s. It just takes me a second to make out the word "pronto".

Blesseville - I love the image. The font on #18 is better than the one on #17. I'm not a big fan of the deep gradient either - I prefer the small logo in the bottom left corner of #18. Maybe some variation on the image, like a slanted line or something. I think this one could go somewhere.

Offbeat Design - I like #19. Great font. The whole thing looks simple and classy. It's missing the "fast" look I've mentioned, but I don't know that it would add anything to the logo. Let me think about this one. I'm not so hot on #20 - nothing makes it unique.

NHR - Thanks for the new entry. My personal opinion is that the arc is over-used in logos, but I'd loke to see where it goes.
I prefer #21 to #22. Maybe tie tye arc into the "p" or something.

Again, thanks for all the entries. The amount of diverse creativity is wonderful. If anyone wants to tackle an idea, I'd be interested in seeing a logo (new or derived from one already in the thread) that involved an image of an object. Perhaps something that has to do with money or time, like a clock. I'm open to anything.

Thanks,
Marcus

freetime
05-02-2007, 06:31 PM
Thanks for the feedback. Here is the revision.

freetime
05-02-2007, 06:32 PM
Here's a redo on the one.

OffbeatDesign
05-02-2007, 07:27 PM
Thanks for the feedback. Not sure if this adds anything to the look or not.

mrogers
05-02-2007, 10:39 PM
freetime - #24 looks really good. I'm not sure what else to suggest on it. On #25, I like the layout of the "tp" part of the text - maybe focus more on that than on the image.

Offbeat Design - the italic and slant on #26 looks good. As I stated before, I like the simple look of it. But I keep wondering if something more could be done with the blue oval of the image, but I'm not sure what. I'll sleep on it.

Thanks all.

OffbeatDesign
05-03-2007, 07:25 AM
Here it is with a more dynamic mark

BlueCherryGraphics
05-03-2007, 08:45 AM
v1 pie chart + idea of "accelerating"

BlueCherryGraphics
05-03-2007, 08:46 AM
v2

BlueCherryGraphics
05-03-2007, 08:46 AM
v3 stopwatch

OffbeatDesign
05-03-2007, 09:25 AM
fast forward

OffbeatDesign
05-03-2007, 09:31 AM
Version 6

Blesseville
05-03-2007, 12:01 PM
http://www.blesseville.com/do/bpr3.jpg

xpressions
05-03-2007, 12:27 PM
Hello. Here's a try:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y185/nemagazine/budgetpronto.png

mrogers
05-03-2007, 08:07 PM
Offbeat Design - I'm still not feeling it on #28. The interlaced "b" and "p" aren't hitting me as something that stands out. Same thing for #32. I think #26 was the best one in that line. The arrow in #33 works, but the dollar sign doesn't.

J. Johnson - Thanks for the entries - I like where you're going with all of them. #29 looks appealing, but if I saw it out of context, I'd think it is for graphing software or something like that. I do like the way it accelerates as you said. Maybe there's some way to make it look like less of a pie chart. For #30, I really like the fading effect as the ring goes around. That's a pretty popular throbber right now on web sites, so I think my customers would easily associate it with "fast". My request would be to try a different font. #31 has potential, but it needs to fit in a shorter horizontal space. Perhaps some combination of the image parts of #29 and #31?

Blesseville - #34 is a bit better, but now the "b" part of the logo looks more like an "h" to me. Once I figure out the image, it's good, but it takes me a minute to make the jump.

xpressions - Wow, that's the best first-effort I've seen on the thread. Can I see it without the shadow on the image, and with the image closer to the text?


Overall, I'm very impressed. I feel there are several logos that could end up being excellent. The ones I like best so far are #24, #30 and #35. My thought of the day, however, is that I should have other people looking at these too (seems obvious to me now). Obviously you all are much more in touch with creative trends than I am, so if I seem to be going down the wrong path, feel free to explain it to me. I'll also be gathering a group of friends and family in the next day or two to look at ALL the logos submitted and get general feedback. I realize that I don't necessarily represent my target audience, so I'm going to try to take my emotions out of play somewhat. Thanks for the continued submissions!

nhr
05-04-2007, 07:51 PM
Me again:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b92/nhrdesign/DO_/budgetpronto4_nhr.png

Thank you.

Fabian
05-04-2007, 10:38 PM
Hi

Fabian
05-04-2007, 10:39 PM
version 2

Fabian
05-04-2007, 10:40 PM
version 3

Fabian
05-04-2007, 10:41 PM
version 4

Fabian
05-04-2007, 10:41 PM
version 5

xpressions
05-05-2007, 06:11 AM
Thank you for the feedback. Here are the revisions as requested: :)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y185/nemagazine/budgetprontorev1.png

mrogers
05-05-2007, 09:41 AM
NHR - I like #37. Is there a way of making it seem like more of a stopwatch than a clock? Or that it's focusing more on a short period of time? I want my customers to think "seconds" instead of "minutes" and "hours." Looks good though.

Fabian - Great idea. I am leaning towards the versions with the fireball integrated with the "o" - is there a way to play around with that to make it fit better? Maybe have the fireball consuming the "o" or something? Fire definately provides a lot of marketing potential.

xpressions - Looks good. Can you make "pronto" not bold? And perhpas close the gap (make the circle more complete) in the image?

Thanks to all - don't work too hard this weekend!

xpressions
05-05-2007, 10:10 AM
Closed the circle gaps and changed the bold type:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y185/nemagazine/budgetprontorev2.png

Fabian
05-05-2007, 03:16 PM
Fantastic, glad you like it.

Not too sure if I can get the “o” to be consumed, as I tried to do that at first but It came out looking like a u. I’ll see what I can do.

By the way, which version do you like the most the Italics or the regular pronto?

nhr
05-05-2007, 07:28 PM
stopwatch :)

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b92/nhrdesign/DO_/budgetpronto41_nhr.png

Thank you.

Fabian
05-05-2007, 08:51 PM
version 6

What if I used negative space for the “o”?

Fabian
05-05-2007, 08:52 PM
version 7

mrogers
05-07-2007, 07:07 AM
xpressions - #45 looks good, I don't have any other ideas for it at this time.

Fabian - I see what you mean - the first versions were easier to read as you suggest. My preference is for #38, italicized with the white "o".

NHR - Thanks for trying the stopwatch. Maybe we're going the wrong way on it, making it more busy. Can we go back to the clock image and try to make it more simple?

Thanks.

Marcus

Fabian
05-07-2007, 02:08 PM
Great,if I come up with anything else I'll be sure to post.

nhr
05-07-2007, 07:55 PM
Focus on seconds:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b92/nhrdesign/DO_/budgetpronto42_nhr-1.png

nhr
05-07-2007, 08:05 PM
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b92/nhrdesign/DO_/budgetpronto43_nhr.png

Thank you.

mrogers
05-08-2007, 07:19 AM
NHR - Thanks, I like these options.

Taldo
05-11-2007, 01:55 PM
:)

Taldo
05-11-2007, 02:02 PM
#2

mrogers
05-12-2007, 03:09 PM
Carol - Good idea. Can I get a different image in the exclamation point - something other than the dollar sign?

Taldo
05-12-2007, 04:02 PM
:)

mrogers
05-30-2007, 09:15 AM
Thanks to all the designers. I've decided to go with the entries from NHR. I have a couple of requests. First, the final design needs to scale well to 16x16, so it can be used as a favicon.ico file. Second, I'd like to play around with the color and font options. Thanks.

BlueCherryGraphics
05-30-2007, 09:26 AM
Congratulations Neb.

This thread has been moved to the Revisions forum.

Client, please post a note in the thread once you receive your final files.

Thanks!:)

nhr
05-30-2007, 02:48 PM
Thanks to all the designers. I've decided to go with the entries from NHR. I have a couple of requests. First, the final design needs to scale well to 16x16, so it can be used as a favicon.ico file. Second, I'd like to play around with the color and font options. Thanks.

Thank you very much for choosing my design :)
Please, tell me which design you choose?
You can tell me Message or version number.

mrogers
05-30-2007, 04:07 PM
I'd like to work from version 4.3. Can I see it with the slice between the hands in a lighter color, like the off-white used in v 4.1? Also, can you make the font not bold?

Thanks.

nhr
05-30-2007, 04:38 PM
Of course:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b92/nhrdesign/DO_/budgetpronto44.png

mrogers
05-30-2007, 08:25 PM
I like it. Can you tell me the difference between (1) and (2) - is it color depth? Can I see it with "pronto" in italics? I like the colors. If you have any other ideas for the color pallette, let me know. Also, what font is the text in, and where do I purchase it from?

nhr
05-31-2007, 03:28 AM
Oooops! My fault, sorry! Here is right design:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b92/nhrdesign/DO_/budgetpronto44-1.png

Diference is circle color.

nhr
05-31-2007, 03:32 AM
Another variation without circle:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b92/nhrdesign/DO_/budgetpronto45.png

nhr
05-31-2007, 03:36 AM
"pronto" in italics:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b92/nhrdesign/DO_/budgetpronto46.png

nhr
05-31-2007, 03:43 AM
version without circle:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b92/nhrdesign/DO_/budgetpronto47.png

Thank you.

Font is Bauhaus and came with Windows I think. Definitive come with my design software - CorelDraw.

mrogers
05-31-2007, 10:27 PM
I'm leaning toward V4.4 (2). Can I see it with the image smaller?

nhr
06-01-2007, 06:10 AM
Of course :)

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b92/nhrdesign/DO_/budgetpronto441.png

mrogers
06-02-2007, 12:05 PM
I like 4.41. The last thing I'd like to try are some different colors. Can I see it with some web 2.0 colors (lime green, orange, etc.)?

Thanks.

nhr
06-02-2007, 04:16 PM
:)

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b92/nhrdesign/DO_/budgetpronto442.png

nhr
06-02-2007, 04:16 PM
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b92/nhrdesign/DO_/budgetpronto443.png

nhr
06-02-2007, 04:16 PM
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b92/nhrdesign/DO_/budgetpronto444.png

nhr
06-02-2007, 04:17 PM
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b92/nhrdesign/DO_/budgetpronto445.png

Thank you.

mrogers
06-04-2007, 08:12 PM
Thanks for the options. I think we'll stick with the original colors (4.41). Is it possible to get a light source on the image, like www.pando.com?

nhr
06-05-2007, 04:50 PM
:)

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b92/nhrdesign/DO_/budgetpronto446.png

mrogers
06-09-2007, 09:42 AM
Sorry for the late reply - had to go to Dallas for business last minute. I think we're ready to close. Can I get 4.46 with the image smaller (like we had in 4.41) and without the shadow (keep the gradient - just remove the drop shadow)?

Also, if you haven't seen, I've started my template project - please enter that too, I like your work. Some of the templates are using different color schemes of the logo - how hard will it be for me to change the colors if I need to?

nhr
06-09-2007, 05:09 PM
Hello again :)
Image size is corrected now an drop shadow removed.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b92/nhrdesign/DO_/budgetpronto447.png

Colors can be changed if you have some software to work with. Tell me what software you prefer and I will give you final design in this file format. (Of course, I can change colors for you if want, when you need that.)

For template project: thank you very much but I am still just graphic designer, not web designer. Sorry :blush:

mrogers
06-11-2007, 06:03 PM
Thanks. I use Fireworks, so png would be best. If possible, can I get the Photoshop format, whatever that is, for any future design work? I can take it from there. How do I notifiy Design Outpost that we are done and to release the funds?

nhr
06-11-2007, 09:01 PM
Requested files has been sent!

Please, chack your Private messages for the download link:
http://www.designoutpost.com/forums/private.php?

After receiving files, just send message here. That is all :D)
Thank you very much again. :)

mrogers
06-12-2007, 12:16 AM
Got the files. Everything looks good. Administrator, please release the funds.

Thanks.