[Project Complete]Sept 28 : $225 : logo for IT business

[JBB]

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I am starting a new IT business that is targeted at scraping web data on the Internet. The logo I need does NOT correspond with the company name but corresponds with the business.

I need a logo with the following concept integrated into it: information on the Internet being transferred off of the Internet or screen. The phrase "Create a Scrape" should be integrated somewhere into the logo.

My one concept that crossed my mind is a very small image of a computer screen being split apart into numbers that roll across the screen from left to right, with gears pulling the number along. It is not animated, just a concept. I'm totally open to any other ideas or suggestions about the design, it is totally open to your creative efforts.

The one hard requirement is that the logo has to have a transparent background that will allow it to be placed onto varying colors. Those colors can range from dark brown or green, possibly black. Thanks!

John

[abby]

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[JBB]

Logo Design Assessment

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Design Outpost Creative Brief Worksheet

Project Summary:
What text should be included in the main part of the logo?

"Create a Scrape" or "create a scrape" or "Create A Scrape"

What type of product or service do you offer?

The service I offer is to use web scraping software to scrape data off of web pages for businesses to use

How long have you been in business?

Two months

What do you hope to accomplish with your new identity?

Advertise

What are your long term goals?

Create a brand that associates web scraping with my business

When is the deadline for final entries before choosing a designer?

September 26 - 28

Audience Profile:
Please describe your existing audience

Small to medium sized businesses

Who would you like to add to your audience?

Small to medium sized businesses

Perception/Tone/Guidelines:
What type of logo would you like?

A creative logo that also looks professional

Do you have any colors in mind for your logo? (if so, why?)

Not specifically but need the logo to be created with a transparent background

Do you have any specific images or icons in mind that you would definitely like to see incorporated into your logo?

Not a hard requirement but one idea of a computer screen disolving into numbers that flow comes to mind

Communication Strategy:
What attributes would you like your logo to reflect about your business?

That the business is innovative and data is a big part of it

What is your tagline or slogan?

"Create a Scrape"

What is the overall message you are trying to convey to your target audience?

That data from the web can be integrated into back office systems, that data is fluid

Where will your new logo be used?

Online, on letterhead, and business cards

Competitive Positioning:
Who are your competitors and what do you think about their logos?

I don't have this information

List competitive URLs if possible

I don't have this information

What sets you apart from your competitors?

Experience, time to market...I'm one of the first

Targeted Message:
State a single-minded word or phrase that will appropriately describe your company:

"Creat a Scrape"

[abby]

Project Update: The project deposit has been raised to $225.

[DraganB]

:)

[BlueCherryGraphics]

v1

[JBB]

Jennifer, the flowing data across the bottom isn't bad, that's not far off from what I had in mind. I would say that while the gradient looks good on a white background, it won't show up on a dark one. The colors have to be visible on a darker background - dark brown, green, black, or maroon color. They don't have to be white just something that would show up. Not sure about the font used on the words, a little big and blocky...

[JBB]

Dragan, thanks with coming up with something. I'm not going for the design, it doesn't really fit what I'm looking for. I would like something that stands out, maybe more color. The black won't show up on a dark background - dark brown, dark green, black, or maroon. I'm hoping for something more new and innovative looking, that reflects the internet somewhat...data. Create a Scrape is about getting data off of the Internet, carrying it forth to the back office of companies so they can use it for something...

[JBB]

Actually Jennifer, on second thought, the grey might work, not be too dark for a really dark background. Not sure though but just wanted to mention that.

[BlueCherryGraphics]

V2 Here's a variation on the theme. The colors are the easiest thing to change, so those can be manipulated. I will also work on some other ideas.

[JBB]

Cool, I like the slimmer font better. Definitely like a sans serif font like that. Where did the TM come from? I wouldn't mind trademarking the phrase, but don't know if its available. I wonder how much like copywriting something that is?

The graphic is better...but...the roughness in the background like a torn page isn't so good. Scraping a web page is just a figure of speech, not literal. If the swath through the page was smooth, that might look better...maybe put the page off to the left of the Create A Scrape phrase, with the digits swathing out from the graphic under the Create a Scrape phrase. Don't know how that would look, just throwing out an idea. Thanks Jennifer.

[djaka]

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[Unorthodox]

:)

[JBB]

djaka

First, thank you for submitting a design, I appreciate it. Your design is interesting. It reminds me of a leaking bottle, of reminds me of something broken and spilling out. That's not quite the impression I want to make, but the concept of data coming out is a good one.

I probably should provide more information to the group to help out with design ideas. I'll post that in a separate message.

thanks

John

[JBB]

Unorthodox & BlueCherryGraphics

Unorthodox, I like that design. The gradient probably wouldn't work online with a dark background. You and BlueCherryGraphics both integrated a gradient into the design. I told BlueCherryGraphics that the gradient wouldn't work, but after sleeping on it, I could go with the monotone version of the logo for that situation and reserve the gradient version for a business card or letterhead, should I want to do that. So after poo-pooing the gradient yesterday, I'm going to reverse the no-gradient statement and say that gradients are acceptable if there is also a monotone version of the logo that can be implemented in situations where the gradient wouldn't show up, e.g. the black versions that BlueCherryGraphics and Unorthodox implemented in their designs.

Unorthodox - you left out the letter "r" in the statement "createascape". It should read "createascrape".

thanks

John

[JBB]

Additional info that might help inspire some design ideas

The business process that "create a scrape" has to do with is to pull information off of a web site so that a business owner can use it for their business. Currently, web sites rarely provide ways to share their information because there is such competition online and worldwide. Unless the company is working with a partner behind the seens, the only way to get information is usually to pull the information directly off of a web page.

Many business owners today do that by either hiring someone to do that manually, to manually monitor one or more web sites and pull any relevant information they find off and save it - manually. Doing business that way is very time intensive. Using web scraping saves business owners a substantial amount of time by automating the process of data retrieval. It can do things such be used for business intelligence and a to provide a competive advantage because information is more quickly retrieved and available. So time is often the biggest asset that web scraping can provide, in many ways.

Just some info that might give you some ideas. I like the ones that are coming so far but I'm sure that there are many other ideas out there that would be as good or even better than the ones I've had.

Thanks everyone, I appreciate what I'm seeing and am eager to see whatever you have in mind.

John

[guetizo]

Hi,

http://pvdesign.com.sapo.pt/create/originall_create.png

[guetizo]

Hi,

http://pvdesign.com.sapo.pt/create/originall_create2.png

[JBB]

Guetizo

Hello and thank you for submitting your design. I like it! I'm not sure which I like better, the C version or the version with the monitor shape. The monitor shape makes sense to me.

One change I would like to see. The dots you have coming out of the monitor...how would it look if the dots where further to the left, inside the monitor and the "CreateAScrape" was also further to the left? Maybe the shape of the monitor could form the "C" part of the word "Create" and the dots could maybe roll under/over the phrase "reateascrape"...maybe. Not sure if I would like how that would look, but it might be interesting. I do like your design though, it's good.

[JBB]

Logoholik

Thank you for submitting a design, I appreciate it. I'm glad you gave me several color backgrounds to see the design on, much obliged for that. It gives me a better feel for how the logo will work on a dark background as that is how I plan on using it initially.

Your design is good. The only thing I would wonder about is the circle design. Not sure how that relates to the business. Do you have any other ideas that might be more related? One thing that crossed my mind is a clock or time face of some sort. Maybe. I'm just throwing something out there that might give you something to work with.

But again, thanks.

John

[BlueCherryGraphics]

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STATUS: One design pending revision

[guetizo]

Hi JBB,

Thanks for the prompt feedback. :)

Here are the revisions requested.

http://pvdesign.com.sapo.pt/create/originall_create3.png

[JBB]

Guetizo

Hey, thanks for showing me that. There's nothing like seeing a design rather than trying to picture it in one's head. After seeing, I would say that I like version 2 better. The only thing about version 2 is that the phrase "CreateaScrape" is a little too far apart from the monitor, making the width a little wide. Only a little. I may be nitpicking but if you want to show me a variation of version 2 with the phrase a little closer to the monitor, that would help. Many thanks!

John

[giant]

Here's from me... :)

[JBB]

Dewa

Thank you for submitting a design. That's an interesting one, more corporate in feel to it. I'm not sure corporate is what I'm after, but, I have to give it some thought because I do like the concept. Thanks again.

John

[guetizo]

Hi Jonh,

Guetizo
Hey, thanks for showing me that. There's nothing like seeing a design rather than trying to picture it in one's head. After seeing, I would say that I like version 2 better. The only thing about version 2 is that the phrase "CreateaScrape" is a little too far apart from the monitor, making the width a little wide. Only a little. I may be nitpicking but if you want to show me a variation of version 2 with the phrase a little closer to the monitor, that would help. Many thanks!
John

Thanks for the prompt feedback.

Here are the revisions requested.

http://pvdesign.com.sapo.pt/create/originall_create4.png
:)

[BlueCherryGraphics]

v3

[BlueCherryGraphics]

v4

[JBB]

Guetizo

Thanks for the revision. That is better, but I think all you did was adjust the width (kern?) of the lettering and didn't get it closer to the monitor graphic. You don't need to show me anything else. This is enough for me to go on before I make a decision. I'm going to decide on one or two designs and work with just those designs over the next 1 or 2 days before settling on a design or design concept.

thanks

John

[JBB]

Jennifer

I like the design better than the first two you came up with. It's cleaner, I like it. The one thing I'll want to change if I go with this design is the font. I like the font you were using on design 2 better. But it's a good design. Thanks for showing this. I'll be deciding on 1 or 2 designers to narrow it down over the next day or two.

thanks

John

[Leclerk]

http://www.logoholik.com/do/logoholik_create_scape02.jpg

[Leclerk]

http://www.logoholik.com/do/logoholik_create_scape03.jpg

[Unorthodox]

:)

[BlueCherryGraphics]

V5

[BlueCherryGraphics]

v6

[BlueCherryGraphics]

v7

[giant]

Here's from me again... :)

[JBB]

So many great designs from so many great designers. You're not making this easy for me, lol! But I've had worse problems, this isn't one of them. Thank you all for the designs you've created and shown to me. I really appreciate the thoughtfulness and effort you've each put into you designs, truly.

At this point, I have narrowed down the designs that I want to explorer a little further. Those designs are from the designers Unorthodox, BlueCherryGraphics, and Guetizo. If you're not in this list, I apologize but I found the designs from these designers to be more along the lines of what I'm after. I may be having another logo project in the near future and if I do, I hope you'll come back to offer more when that happens.

Unorthodox, BlueCherryGraphics, and Guetizo - the designs I want to go over with each of you I will detail in another message. In each of the designs, there is something that I would like to tweak a bit, if we can.

In addition, I would also like to see the design on a dark background with alternative colors which I'll leave up to you to suggest. The primary dark backgrounds will be a dark brown, dark green, dark blue, and black. You've provided a design on white so I need to see it in another setting to help make a decision.

As I said, I'll spell out in another message which design you've each created that I would like to see more of and "tweak". Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thank you all for your efforts on this project!

John

[JBB]

Designers

Here are the designs from each of you that I would like to "tweak" and see on the dark backgrounds.

Unorthodox - your version 2 design I like very much. However, the gradient gives me concern on a dark background and I would like to see how that will look. I'm also interested in maybe adjusting the kern on the "createascrape" so that it makes the phrase less wide. I don't want to cramp/cram the lettering together but just see how it will look. Alternatively, a different font might also be considered if you have one that looks good.

Guetizo - version 4 (2.1) is the version I like best. The first thing I would like to ask is that the "CreatAScrape" be moved to the left a little so that the "C" is adjacent to where the monitor would close if it closed. You'll likely to also need to move the dots to the left a little also. In addition, seing this design on a dark background would be good. I would like to see how you handle the shading of the monitor on a dark background and how it would look. I noticed for the larger version you used a gradient and the small version you used a fill for the monitor. I'm not sure which would look better on a dark background but we can look at both.

BlueCherryGraphics - your design version 4 is the version I like best except for the font and the periwinkle blue you used. I like the font you used in version 5 and 6 better. So version 4 with other colors and the font from version 5/6. In addition, also want to see how this design looks on dark backgrounds.

So thank you all for all your hard work. You've come up with great designs and I look forward to seeing your next versions.

John

[BlueCherryGraphics]

v8

[BlueCherryGraphics]

v9

[BlueCherryGraphics]

v10

[BlueCherryGraphics]

v11

[BlueCherryGraphics]

v12

[BlueCherryGraphics]

v13

[BlueCherryGraphics]

v14

[BlueCherryGraphics]

v15

[BlueCherryGraphics]

v16

[guetizo]

Hi John,

Here are the revisions requested.
Let me know if you want to see more color options.

http://pvdesign.com.sapo.pt/create/originall_create6.png

[guetizo]

Hi,

http://pvdesign.com.sapo.pt/create/originall_create7.png

[JBB]

Guetizo

Your version 6, 2.2 is better than version 7 (2.3) due to the use of multiple colors in the fonts. It would be good to see more backgrounds but that's not absolutely necessary unless you just want to do that.

John

[JBB]

BlueCherryGraphics (Jennifer)

Thanks for providing all the color samples, much appreciated.

John

[JBB]

BlueCherryGraphics (Jennifer)

I have to ask for a design change and have a suggestion for it, though you're welcome to come up with something on your own. You, I, and everyone here knows that your design is good and that it's data emerging from the screen, essentially. But someone who doesn't know that ahead of time _might_ get the impression that it's an ice cream cone sticking out on top of the screen and the meaning wouldn't be obvious.

So, the design change I would ask to see going forward, is to chage the cone shape emerging from the screen into something different. I like it, don't get me wrong, I'm just trying to cover the bases with the design and the cone works for people who know what it is but not those who don't. Maybe a swoosh shape? Not sure, I'll leave that up to you.

Thanks again

John

[BlueCherryGraphics]

What about something like this?

[JBB]

Hi Jennifer

No, the magnifying glass is misleading. It makes the uninitiated think that there is something being "examined/investigated". Just the wrong spin.

How about using multiple "O"s that spring out from the screen in small to larger size with the final "O" being the topmost layer? Just an idea, don't know if I'll like how it looks so if you have other ideas, feel free to use them/let me see them.

thanks

John

[BlueCherryGraphics]

v18

[BlueCherryGraphics]

v19

[BlueCherryGraphics]

20

[JBB]

BlueCherryGraphics (Jennifer)

Thank you for the alternatives and the quick turnaround with it, much appreciated. Your verions 19 and 20 are both good alternatives and I'm still deciding which one I like better, probably 19, but no need to worry about that at this point. Once I decide on a designer, I can get into refining more. Many thanks for all the hard work you've done, you've been very attentive and it is appreciated.

John

[guetizo]

Hi John,

Guetizo
Your version 6, 2.2 is better than version 7 (2.3) due to the use of multiple colors in the fonts. It would be good to see more backgrounds but that's not absolutely necessary unless you just want to do that.
John

Thank you for the prompt feedback.

No problem. Are are a few more backgrounds to confirm the versatility of design.

http://pvdesign.com.sapo.pt/create/originall_create8.png

[guetizo]

Hi John,

A few more. :)

http://pvdesign.com.sapo.pt/create/originall_create9.png

[BlueCherryGraphics]

Some other ideas...

v21

[BlueCherryGraphics]

v22

[BlueCherryGraphics]

v23

[JBB]

It has been an interesting journey and there have been some very good designs presented. I'm greatful to all of you for the hard work you've done on my project. Though I might not have selected your design in the end, I hope you know that my choice wasn't an easy one to make. Each design had pro's and con's, and I carefully considered each one for the various settings I will be using the logo in as well as how it fits in with other aspects of my business and marketing plans.

I have decided the a design from Guetizo is the one I want to take forward from here on. There are more things I wish to talk to him about the design, more polish I want to look into, and the nitty gritty details of getting it finalized. This is your version 6 (2.2) that was the last version I asked for changes from you on. Everything from that point forward was the same design with just color variations to the background mainly, although version 7 (2.3) eliminated the gradient/fill and went with a single color for the fonts. It was just a alternative to the same design.

So Guetizo, once the moderators have moved the project over to the revisions forum, I'll talk to you about some final refinements.

Thank you again to all the designers who submitted their designs to this project.

Best Regards

John

[Fabian]

Congrats:)

This project has been moved to revisions, client could you please post a quick note once your files are received.

Thanks
Fabian
DO Moderator

[guetizo]

John,

Thank you for choosing my design for your project.
I'm ready for the final revisions.


@Fabian: Thank you. :)

[JBB]

Guetizo

Thank you for taking part in the project. Your design got the most positive feedback from the people I polled on designs and was one of 3 designs that I personally liked the most. It is a very difficult decision to choose between such great designs from a variety of sources and I'm glad to move forward with you to a final design.

The color combination you've chosen for the fonts is versatile. You've shown that it works on a variety of colored backgrounds and looks good on each. However, I was wondering if there are any other color combinations that look just as good? I specifically would like to see an alternative to the orange color you used for the "Scrape" part of the logo and may require that the other colors change also so that they all fit/look good together, again on multiple different dark backgrounds.

I also noticed that in your monotone black & white version of the logo, you didn't include a gradient. Would you provide one? Does a gradient on the monotone black & white look bad? I would think not, should be a simple change/addition.

Finally, I was wondering whether or not you could provide either Fireworks or Photoshop files when we finish the revisions? Specifically, the older versions of Photoshop, version 6 or older, or Fireworks, Fireworks MX. This will allow me to make use of the various colors by turning layers on or off, or just changing the fill colors. I can wait for you to decide on that and give me an answer later.

John

[guetizo]

Hi John,

Sorry, to reply just today... tried to had a "normal" weekend. :)

When we display our concepts in the DO canvas we must show the concept in solid colors and in black & white. thtat's why there aren't any effects on those.

We at DO have a top source file package to deliver when projects are finished, so you'll get the files you need/want. :) No problem.

Here is a first color approach.

http://pvdesign.com.sapo.pt/create/originall_create10.png

[JBB]

Hi Guetizo

I hope you had a good, relaxing weekend. Everyone needs one of those!

I like the color combinations and can see where they would work best on various backgrounds. For instance, #1 and #3 would probably not work really well on dark red backgrounds but might look good on dark brown or black backgrounds whereas #2 would probably look good on dark blue and on other dark backgrounds. Of course, being less than well color inclined, it's difficult for me to know these things for sure. It's best to see a variety of backgrounds to use for comparison.

So, I guess the question is, will I get only 1 of the color combinations or will I be able to choose the color combination of the image? This is why I was asking about Firefox MX or Photoshop files. I'm not sure what you mean by "top source file" package. Is that one of those file types I listed or something else, like a TIF, JPEG, or GIF file? The only concern with those files is that the colors are flattened and can't be easily changed, especially the gradient.

In any case, I like the variety of color options. I just don't know which one to use but I would guess that I could opt for whichever one I needed for a given situation? Is that correct?

John

[guetizo]

Hi John,

This was my first color batch to show 'cause I was posting some. :)

I can pick all the colors scheme you want, althought the with the files you'll receive you are able to change it to a color scheme of your likings.

Yes, choosing a color scheme or a color palette isn't a problem. You can opt for a particular color scheme, its only up to you to decide and of course, I can help you with that.

In conclusion, can you inform me which color scheme you like the most in proposals shown? With that choice I can prepare the files to send you.

[JBB]

Well, between the proposals you've shown, the simple answer is that I like them all but whether or not they will work depends on what I'm going to use them on, which I'm not sure about. I only know of one background I'm planning on using it on right now and can't give you the exact background at the moment but will try to get you that background color tonight. It will likely be a RGB color that you'll have to convert to CMYK as I see that's the color types that are used here.

But, if I have to choose between the colors you've shown me so far, I would have to say the original color combination with the orange "Create" and the blue #2 above are the two best of the lot. I'm hoping that I can always change the color combinations using the files you provide so that whatever I use the logo with will look good.

But in any case, Guetizo, thank you for trying to provide me with what I need. I do appreciate it.

My initial use of the logo will be on a web page I'm going to put up in the next 1 - 2 weeks, depending on scheduling. I'll be sure to show you when I get to that point and get any input from you that you might be willing to share. Thanks!

John

[guetizo]

Hi John,

:)
OK. No problems in converting the colors to to CMYK, Pantones or vice-versa.

I also sent you a private message. :) Please go to the following link to find the message http://www.designoutpost.com/forums/private.php?

[JBB]

I just wanted to leave a note here that I sent you a private message reply in case you didn't see that, thanks.

John

[guetizo]

Hi John,

Thanks. I saw that Private Message and I replyed too. In that reply you'll find a link to download the files.

[JBB]

Administrators, Guetizo has delivered the files I need for the logo and the project is completed. Please let me know if there is any additional action required of me to authorize payment to Guetizo. Many thanks to Guetizo!


best regards,

John

[BlueCherryGraphics]

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