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jo4coaching
09-19-2007, 01:02 AM
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Hi everyone
I've used this service once before and was most impressed by the results (and the creativity of the process) so looking forward to seeing what you come up with this time :-)
Joanna
Project Summary:
What text should be included in the main part of the logo?
Confident Writing
What type of product or service do you offer?
I'm a writing coach - helping people to write with more confidence. (This is more likely to be business writing, writing at work, promotional writing, non-fiction writing than creative)
My business site and business blog is here:
http://www.confidentwriting.com
How long have you been in business?
6 months
What do you hope to accomplish with your new identity?
Brand recognition - especially for new products (books, training materials) that I am working on
What are your long term goals?
Reputation as the best person around to help the writer find their voice and enjoy the confidence boost that goes with it; recognised trainer and author of materials that help people to write with confidence
When is the deadline for final entries before choosing a designer?
26th September
Audience Profile:
Please describe your existing audience
Individuals interested in the writing process (especially those who follow blogs!), those who write for pleasure
Who would you like to add to your audience?
Business people whose writing holds them back; managers and HR professionals looking for support for individuals struggling with the written word
Perception/Tone/Guidelines:
What type of logo would you like?
Clear, simple, confident
Do you have any colors in mind for your logo? (if so, why?)
Possibly darkish green - see the colour scheme for my website - but I'm open to ideas
Do you have any specific images or icons in mind that you would definitely like to see incorporated into your logo?
No. And remember it doesn't have to be linked or associated with novels or creative writing - I want to talk to people who write in a more everyday sense
Communication Strategy:
What attributes would you like your logo to reflect about your business?
Straightforward, approachable, friendly, clear, confident.
What is your tagline or slogan?
"Because our words count"
(I would be interested to see a logo version with the tagline too if that's possible)
What is the overall message you are trying to convey to your target audience?
There are simple things you can do to write with more confidence, I can help you work out what they are
Where will your new logo be used?
Website, materials (books, e-courses), promotional materials
Competitive Positioning:
Who are your competitors and what do you think about their logos?
Jacqui Lofthouse - a bit too dreamy with stars shooting out, and I want to move away from the book image
http://stubbornworld.typepad.com/the_writing_coach/
Jurgen Wolff - nice clean site but logo doesn't do much for me
http://www.yourwritingcoach.com/
Syntax training - similar market (business writing dimension anyway) - but logo doesn't seem to reflect that.
http://www.syntaxtraining.com/signup.html
Plain language - wrong colours, too magical, doesn't go with the aim of plain language
http://www.plainlanguage.com/blog/
What sets you apart from your competitors?
[I]Rapport
Ability to write with clarity and confidence (I try and model this daily on my blogsite)
Set writing within the wider system that affects the writer - values, relationship, performance, beliefs, sense of purpose and direction
Targeted Message:
State a single-minded word or phrase that will appropriately describe your company:
Coaching you to write with confidence
jo4coaching
09-21-2007, 01:57 AM
Oooh...I'm impatient I know - itching to see what you come up with - and just checking - there isn't anything else you need from me just now that would help with the design ideas?
Joanna
Blesseville
09-23-2007, 03:31 AM
:)
http://www.blesseville.com/do/cwritingv1.jpg
Blesseville
09-23-2007, 03:40 AM
Another color option.
http://www.blesseville.com/do/cwritingv2.jpg
guetizo
09-23-2007, 05:10 AM
Hi,
http://pvdesign.com.sapo.pt/confident/originall_confident.png
jo4coaching
09-23-2007, 09:14 AM
Hi Blesseville
Thanks for kicking things off. I quite liked the button idea - it looks like something I might be tempted to click! and the font you've used for the words.
I couldn't quite work out what the image was supposed to be though - is it the tip of a pen?
I liked the upward direction though - suggesting confidence.
In terms of colours - I preferred message #3 to message #4
I'd like to see what other designs come in before I give more detailed feedback or encourage you to do more work if that's okay
Joanna
jo4coaching
09-23-2007, 09:16 AM
Hi Quetizo
Thanks for your suggestion. It's similar in style I guess to the first contribution (the circular button) and it doesn't do too much to inspire me - the pen nib is a fairly standard image and a bit on the old fashioned side when you think how little any of us write with a pen any more. (Maybe it's different for designers!)
I think I'll wait and see what else comes in before offering any suggestions for design alterations if that's okay - don't want to put you to unnecessary extra work.
Joanna
Blesseville
09-23-2007, 09:44 AM
Thank you for the feedback. Yes it is the tip of a pencil. :)
I couldn't quite work out what the image was supposed to be though - is it the tip of a pen?
Taldo
09-23-2007, 04:11 PM
hi :)
Blesseville
09-23-2007, 04:12 PM
Another one.
http://www.blesseville.com/do/cwritingv3.jpg
djaka
09-23-2007, 05:41 PM
:)
djaka
09-23-2007, 05:42 PM
another one
djaka
09-23-2007, 05:44 PM
any comments are appreciated
thank you
:)
BlueCherryGraphics
09-24-2007, 01:15 AM
v1
jo4coaching
09-24-2007, 03:20 AM
Thanks everyone for your contributions so far. I don't feel I've seen just what I'm looking for yet... so keep them coming!
Feedback to the design ideas that have come in so far:
#9 Taldo: it was quite an interesting idea but it didn't really resonate with me - I find it hard to say why, sorry
#10 Blesseville - thanks for redoing it. The figure at the bottom is now more obviously a person, and I do like the upward movement - it still isn't really working for me though
#11 Djaka - thanks - it has a nice flow but a bit too whimsical with the stars. It needs to be something that can work with a business audience as well as individuals
#12 Djaka - thanks - this one really made me smile! I think it might still be too 'light' for a business type audience but perhaps you could play around with a bit - I felt there was "too much" of it, especially in the height - perhaps you could try moving the image alongside the words, perhaps just the pencil not the "eyes", perhaps dropping 'because our words count'
NB to all - the strapline 'because our words count' isn't essential - I'm happy for you to try it with and without to see what works best in terms of look, shape, size....
#13 Djaka - I didn't really feel I was getting much more than the words replayed here - I guess I want some kind of icon or image to associate with the words
#14 BlueCherry - this is the design so far that has made me feel the most confident - I think it's the mixture of the font and the swish of the brush stroke. Could you try it with a different colour or two - I don't think I could go with red - although it is confident! Also is there any way you could link a brush stroke to a pen/pencil in any way...? (Feel free to ignore this suggestion if it sounds too mad!)
Hope this feedback is useful, thanks all for your ideas and contributions so far.
Joanna
Taldo
09-24-2007, 04:26 PM
:)
BlueCherryGraphics
09-24-2007, 04:56 PM
v2
BlueCherryGraphics
09-24-2007, 04:57 PM
v3 exclamation pen :)
BlueCherryGraphics
09-24-2007, 04:57 PM
v4
Hello:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b92/nhrdesign/DOO/ConfidentWriting10_nhr.png
Thank you.
jo4coaching
09-25-2007, 01:25 AM
Hello all - thanks for the additional designs and revisions.
Some more feedback
Taldo #16 - It's a nice simple design. Maybe a bit too clinical, but it puts the point across
Blue Cherry # 17, 18, 19 - thanks for experimenting with the pens and pencils. You probably knew this when I asked you (sorry!) but I think it's too visually distracting - makes it harder to make sense of the words
NHR # 20 This too is a clean and simple design. It does convey quite a lot of what I'm after. Just - doesn't grab me somehow. Sorry - I realise this isn't the most useful feedback...
I hope I'm not being too picky - still looking for something that makes me sit up and say "yes!!" - so I'm extending the deadline by a week and going to increase the pot to $220.
Please keep on trying if you're interested!
Thanks
Joanna
jo4coaching
09-25-2007, 01:29 AM
Hi, I'm extending the deadline by a week and have topped up the pot to $220.
Looking forward to seeing more of your ideas
Joanna
Project Update: The project deposit has been raised to $220 and the deadline has been extended to Oct 3rd.
BlueCherryGraphics
09-25-2007, 09:44 PM
v5
jo4coaching
09-26-2007, 05:37 AM
Jennifer
#24
I quite like this - but it's a little hard to read. Is it possible to try with a different font?
Joanna
OffbeatDesign
09-26-2007, 05:57 AM
Thanks
BlueCherryGraphics
09-26-2007, 06:07 AM
v6
BlueCherryGraphics
09-26-2007, 06:08 AM
v7
BlueCherryGraphics
09-26-2007, 06:08 AM
v8
BlueCherryGraphics
09-26-2007, 06:08 AM
v9
BlueCherryGraphics
09-26-2007, 06:09 AM
v10
BlueCherryGraphics
09-26-2007, 06:09 AM
v11
BlueCherryGraphics
09-26-2007, 06:09 AM
v12
BlueCherryGraphics
09-26-2007, 06:09 AM
v13
Taldo
09-26-2007, 07:48 PM
:)
jo4coaching
09-26-2007, 11:49 PM
Hi, thanks again for further contributions
# 26 Offbeat design
I'm not sure the simple button + words is really working for me (there have been a few of these suggested) - and I think this version would be too close to the copyright sign
# 27 - 34 Bluecherry
Thanks for the font options. I'm sure one of these will work if I end up going with this design. Need to chew over which one I like best though!
# 35 Taldo
I see where you're coming from but the stars aren't really working for me - a bit too whimsical
Hope this helps
Joanna
guetizo
09-27-2007, 05:55 AM
Hi Joanna,
Back with the same and... some more.
This is the full concept of my previous entry. As you can see its a symbiosis between a ink pen and a book (pages). I still think and I have to my self that the pen as the meaning of those - yes, past - days where the written was done by the best and in the best way.
http://pvdesign.com.sapo.pt/confident/originall_confident2.png
guetizo
09-27-2007, 05:56 AM
Hi,
http://pvdesign.com.sapo.pt/confident/originall_confident3.png
Taldo
09-27-2007, 07:38 AM
:)
Taldo
09-27-2007, 07:40 AM
:)
jo4coaching
09-28-2007, 03:59 AM
Thanks for the contributions and variations :-)
# 37 and 38
Quetizo - thanks for developing this and explaining your thinking behind it. I'm afraid the synthesised image isn't really working for me though
# 39 and 40
Taldo - thanks for continuing to work on this. 39 (your version 4) doesn't do so much for me - I still quite like the simplicity and clarity of #40 (your version 5) including this version of the font and colour
All - I'm still wondering if there's an image or design concept out there that goes beyond, that adds something special... over and above the words 'confident writing'
What do you think?
Joanna
Fabian
09-28-2007, 08:54 AM
Hopeful I am not too late, but this concept just dawned on me. Using colour and the “i” to make a bold statement that we are confident in our writings and are willing to stand front and centre.
jo4coaching
09-29-2007, 03:18 AM
Fabian, you're not too late and I like the concept. Of putting the "I" back into confident!
I'm wondering if you could experiment a little with it, perhaps some slight variations with the pen/pencil, and maybe the fonts for the words?
Joanna
All: I'm still undecided on this so please feel free to jump in if ideas and possibilities come to you
Fabian
09-29-2007, 03:33 AM
Hi Joanna,
Do you have a font style in mind?
One more question do you pefer a serif font or a San Serif?
Cheers
Fabian
jo4coaching
09-29-2007, 06:59 AM
Fabian - I don't have a font in mind. I quite liked the confident but not the writing - maybe because it was in caps?
'Fraid I don't know the difference between serif or san serif!
Joanna
BlueCherryGraphics
09-29-2007, 07:30 AM
v14
BlueCherryGraphics
09-29-2007, 07:31 AM
v15
BlueCherryGraphics
09-29-2007, 07:31 AM
v16
Fabian
09-29-2007, 07:39 AM
Sorry about that,I keep forgetting that normal people (people with lives) dont know what a serif is...serif's are little flicks on the tails much like this Confident Writing,this generally gives the font a classic look.
I'll do up a couple of each and post them soon :)
Fabian
09-29-2007, 07:59 AM
Here is a revised design using the same front and centre approach but this time simplifying it into a punctuation mark.
Fabian
09-29-2007, 08:01 AM
This one uses a serif font.If I can do anything more for you please let me know.
xpressions
09-29-2007, 10:26 AM
Write between the lines......
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y185/nemagazine/confidentwriting.png
xpressions
09-29-2007, 10:27 AM
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y185/nemagazine/confidentwriting2.png
jo4coaching
09-29-2007, 02:37 PM
Thanks for the contributions everyone.
Blue Cherry # 46, 47, 48
I quite liked the idea, but probably not as much as your earlier suggestions. The pen nib looked a little bit owl-like to me, but it might just be me...
Fabian # 50, 51
Thanks for experimenting. I think I prefer san serif now I know what it is! Not sure it's worth further experimenting just now.
Xpressions
#52 I liked the concept - but found it hard to read I'm afraid
#53 again quite an interesting idea, but the dot without the "i" made me feel as though it had been inadvertently missed off - a bit visually distracting
Joanna
xpressions
09-29-2007, 05:39 PM
Thank you for the feedback. Here's another try:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y185/nemagazine/confidentwriting3.png
Hello again:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b92/nhrdesign/DOO/ConfidentWriting2_nhr.png
Thank you.
jo4coaching
09-30-2007, 01:25 PM
Thanks once again
#55 xpressions - hmm, it's nice and simple, but it doesn't really 'speak' to me enough
#56 nhr
Quite like this - does it work in lower case too?
Joanna
Thank you Joanna :)
Lower case:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b92/nhrdesign/DOO/ConfidentWriting21_nhr.png
jo4coaching
10-01-2007, 06:49 AM
#58 nhr - thanks
All - I know, I know, going to have to decide soon!
Joanna
giant
10-01-2007, 07:05 PM
Here's from me... :)
I hope not too late... thank you.
skyvee
10-01-2007, 11:57 PM
Hi! Here's my idea. Thank you! :)
jo4coaching
10-02-2007, 12:20 AM
#59 giant - not too late, and thanks for the submission. I couldn't really get what the image was though I'm afraid - or not quickly enough to work for a logo
#60 skyvee, thanks, this was really cheerful, and captures some of the human dimension of writing as well as the writing instrument - well done
I'm going to review these all today - ahead of the decision 24 hours from now. It's going to be hard I know, and thanks everyone for the ideas and design work that's gone in to this.
Best wishes
Joanna
jo4coaching
10-02-2007, 01:44 AM
Sorry, got my numbering mixed up - last message should have referred to #60 and #61 but it makes sense from the names of the designers I hope.
Joanna
jo4coaching
10-02-2007, 03:52 AM
Re msg # 58 @ nhr
- would it be possible to show this option but using a thinner font on the letters? It looks a little too fat and chunky to me (sorry for poor terminology!)
Joanna
:)
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b92/nhrdesign/DOO/ConfidentWriting22_nhr.png
Thank you.
djaka
10-02-2007, 06:12 AM
:)
djaka
10-02-2007, 07:17 AM
another option
thank you
:)
Taldo
10-02-2007, 12:16 PM
:)
jo4coaching
10-03-2007, 01:32 AM
Hello everyone
Thanks very much for your ideas and contributions - I've learned a lot from it, and it's not been easy to work out which design option to go with.
However, today's the closing date so I've reviewed the submissions... and the one I'm going for is...
Carol Taldo - based on her version 5, post #40
I guess the key factors for me were that it was clear, simple and easy to read - attributes that I love to see within confident writing.
Thanks Carol and I look forward to finalising the project with you
Joanna
Fabian
10-03-2007, 01:40 AM
Congrats Joanna & Carol :)
BlueCherryGraphics
10-03-2007, 02:08 AM
Congratulations Carol.
This thread has been moved to the Revisions forum.
Joanna, please post a note in the thread once you receive the final files.
Thanks! :)
Taldo
10-03-2007, 04:50 AM
Thanks! Let me know if you need any revisions.
jo4coaching
10-04-2007, 12:03 AM
Hi Carol, I don't think so, thank you.
Is it just a question of you sending me the files now?
Joanna
Taldo
10-04-2007, 09:29 AM
Please check your private messages....
BlueCherryGraphics
10-04-2007, 08:50 PM
PROJECT UPDATE: This thread has been moved to Logo Project Archives.
Taldo
10-06-2007, 06:31 AM
files sent
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