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PancakeMail
11-20-2003, 12:56 AM
(Admin code added by Palmer - M377812P)

Hello,

Contest prize is $75 + a t-shirt.

We initially came to this website to simply have a contest for an image of a stack of pancakes, believing that the design for a t-shirt that we had already came up with was pretty good. We felt silly simply asking for an image of pancakes though, and realize that a better job could be done if it's all put in context of its intended use. So, while we're still looking for an image of pancakes, helping us position them in relation to our text and logo can make all the difference, and if someone comes up with a layout we like better than our original design, then we have no problems scrapping our layout for the winner's.

Here's what we're looking for:

1. On the shirt, most likely in the upper right corner, would be our logo (thanks PennyLn!)
2. Across the top of the t-shirt in large letters would read: "STACKED" (yes, we want to be ever-so-slightly suggestive :tup: )
3. Below the word "STACKED" would be a stack of pancakes on a plate or in an inbox (see #5) (no butter or syrup necessary -- we are emphasizing pancakes -- but if the stack of pancakes looks really good with butter and/or syrup, we'll accept it.)
4. Below the stack of pancakes would be the words "against spam" (that's our claim to fame that we are publicizing next month, an email system that defeats all spam.)
5. Bonus points for a stack of pancakes in an "inbox" that we like, -- we'd prefer an inbox to a plate, unless we feel it won't be completely obvious to someone viewing the t-shirt being worn. Since people are not necessarily used to seeing pancakes in an inbox, we will accept a plate over a not-so-obvious inbox.
6. Any font in any color is acceptable if it is extremely legible and suggests the playful manner of the t-shirt. We want the word "STACKED" to register in people's minds in the suggestive sense before they have had an opportunity to think or look the rest of the shirt over, and the text color shouldn't clash with the pancake image or our logo.

Our plan was to have the word "STACKED" be prominently displayed with the stack of pancakes right *there* to offset the initial suggestive impression we hope to give. After viewers give a second look, the rest of the phrase "against spam" and our logo would register. Admins permitting, you can view a copy of our initial layout at this link: http://customink.com/cink/r.jsp?E=customin...om&F=pancakem02 (http://customink.com/cink/r.jsp?E=customink.com%40corp.pancakemail.com&F=pancakem02)
Note that we used the only image of pancakes that the website had available in it's clipart library.

We will also send a shirt to the winner if s/he is interested, and provides with a tshirt size and mailing address with the final image file(s). We anticipate ordering shirts right after the contest ends, so estimated delivery would be early to mid December. Credit for the shirt design will be noted on our website, too.

As for a deadline, we estimate that 28 November 2003 (at 11:59PM EST for those literal type) would be good, unless of course, there's enough activity to justify extending it.

One final thought before I go pass out --
if someone wants to get adventurous, it occurred to me that for the context of this design, a design that included two, strategically placed stacks of pancakes, maybe one in an inbox and the other in an outbox (??) could work as well. In this case, well-placed pats of butter and a 'layer' of syrup would be significantly more appropriate, I would think... the more "innocently suggestive", the more we'll like it!

Any further questions, please ask. Thanks!

PancakeMail people -- TJ, Suze and Sarah

Bill
11-20-2003, 08:21 AM
Here's a shot...

PancakeMail
11-21-2003, 10:20 AM
Hello, and thanks for the submission, Bill!

I can't tell you the response that elicited from Suze and Sarah -- all I can say is that they nearly bit my head off for suggesting something so suggestive. Their response was unanimously "that's too suggestive for me", and I guess we should stick with the original layout. I *was* really sleepy when suggesting that, and guess it'll have to wait for a future tshirt design. I appreciate the subimssion, though.

The rest of the layout is good, and the lettering works, with the only change we'd ask for is the letters in "STACKED" to have a little more space between them.

annia
11-22-2003, 08:25 AM
Here's my entry

(oh I am not sure if I understood the last post right? is this contest canceled?) :blink:

Palmer
11-22-2003, 10:06 AM
Annia, this is really going to be fun watching your work. Great stuff. :tup:

PancakeMail
11-22-2003, 01:02 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-annia+Nov 22 2003, 10:25 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (annia @ Nov 22 2003, 10:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> (oh I am not sure if I understood the last post right? is this contest canceled?) :blink: [/b][/quote]
just to be clear, it's not cancelled, I just caught such criticism for the "two stack" idea that I suggested we stay with the "one stack" -- just as you've submitted.

I will show your post to my partner tonight and we'll post more comments then. Thanks!

PancakeMail
11-22-2003, 09:58 PM
Okay, now that we've all had a chance to look at the two submissions, more comments:

the second image has all the required components, but there's a few issues:

1. the pancakes can be on a plate or in an inbox, not both.
2. we love the look of the pancakes (and they appear as though they will print well), and we'd like to see a much taller stack of 'em -- say 8 or more?
3. no apostrophe needed in the word "against"
4. the tshirt people we know say that small shadowing and small details typically won't print well on a t-shirt -- with this is mind, the shadowing behind "stacked" is not necessary (nor does it need to be omitted since the tshirt printer may touch up the image, too) and the word inbox is a bit crumped, we think it'd work better if it was across the front of the inbox.

aside from this, we like it quite a bit!


(Sarah)

annia
11-23-2003, 02:39 AM
haha okay I wasn't sure what your partners didn't like about your idea.
Anyways thanks for the feedback and below you can see the edited versions.. one with a plate and one with an inbox only.

;) thanks palmer!!

PancakeMail
11-25-2003, 10:45 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-annia+Nov 23 2003, 04:39 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (annia @ Nov 23 2003, 04:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
Anyways thanks for the feedback and below you can see the edited versions.. one with a plate and one with an inbox only.

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Annia......the pancakes look so good I think I'm gonna have to make myself some later!

We love the look, except for the third pancake down....could you make it more uniform with the others?

Also, the inbox would be perfect if it matched the one in our logo!

For the font, we were looking for something a bit less formal looking, kind of playful, and have attached the one we like to this post.

Great work, looking forward to seeing the next submission!
:tup:

annia
11-25-2003, 11:16 PM
thanks for your feedback :)
I thought the stack looks quite boring and so I made an alternating pancake. But now they are all uniform..
The box and the font are changed too now ;)

PancakeMail
11-26-2003, 09:33 PM
Annia.....
I hope you don't think we're being *too* picky, but although we really do like what you've done, we have a couple more changes. We have this picture of what we want in mind, and you're *so* close....

If you could make the inbox exactly like the one in the logo, it would be perfect. We love the logo inbox - the colors, shadings, etc., and just the word 'in' is really all that's needed. <and if you could unbend the top left corner, that would be even better>

If you can do that for us, we're close to ending this thing!

Thanks!

:D

annia
11-26-2003, 10:29 PM
haha thats not a problem :) I just tried to bring in a little bit of my own style in this. I will change the stuff for you right now.

annia
11-26-2003, 11:19 PM
B) pancakes are served

PancakeMail
12-02-2003, 08:27 PM
Annia, it's almost perfect, but would you mind doing two more changes?

1. We'd like the inbox to be viewed from the front rather than a side angle (like our logo)

2. add a few more pancakes to the pile

Thanks! :tup:

annia
12-02-2003, 11:32 PM
your wish is my command :lol2:

annia
12-02-2003, 11:48 PM
uhh I've forgotten the t-shirt preview so far :rip:
here it is.. btw It's everyting in vectors (of course)

PancakeMail
12-03-2003, 12:24 PM
Annia.....

We all just love it! It's just perfect! Even if there had been 20 entries, you'd be the winner, by far.

If you'd please send us the files so we can submit it to the tshirt company, we'll be finished. (Can you believe it?)

Also, don't forget to email us your tshirt size and the address we can send your PancakeMail tshirt to.

Thanks again, Annia, hope to work with you again one day.

tj, Suze and Sarah - the PancakeMail people

annia
12-03-2003, 10:31 PM
:) thanks for the kind words!! It's a pleasure for me I could please you! I send you a eps vector and a 300dpi jpg right away!!

OH I forgot something..could you please send me your logo as eps? I only placed a small preview graphic of your logo in the pic so far o.O
thanks!

PancakeMail
12-04-2003, 03:48 PM
here you go..!

oh, and if you have the means, could you send (or post) as a PNG file? thanks!

PancakeMail
12-09-2003, 05:12 PM
thanks Anita -- here's the final product (order placed, too!) :santa:

http://customink.com/cink/r.jsp?E=customin...om&F=finalfinal (http://customink.com/cink/r.jsp?E=customink.com%40corp.pancakemail.com&F=finalfinal)

annia
12-09-2003, 06:18 PM
it looks really neat :D

PancakeMail
12-18-2003, 12:08 AM
A quick note:

Our tshirt order with the tshirt printing people has been delayed. We have been told to expect delivery on 30 December 2003. We will ship tshirts shortly thereafter...


-Sarah-

annia
12-18-2003, 01:57 AM
thanks for the information ^-^