Enthropia.com Logo - Prize: $75

[AhmedF]

Hola all (Admin code added by Palmer - T9702104)

I am creating a business site, and need a 'spiffy' logo to go with it.

The design [non spliced]: www.enthropia.com/design.gif (http://www.enthropia.com/design.gif)

Basically, I will be replacing where it currently says 'enthropia'. Plus, I would like it if the 'e' could be used as some sort of logo on business cards

I have no 'idea' of what I want ... I am hoping the creativity flows from you guys - I just need the colors to match with the design :)

The logo should be vector based [for resizing], unique and be identifiable as a singular brand. I would like it to be easily modifiable into any type of 'format' use - avatar, ads, print media, letterheads, etc [sort of like how GeekScripts was done].

The 'slicker' the better :)

The prize is $75 and I will let it run until February 28, giving about 2 weeks for the entries. I will also require all files and associated fonts so I can modify it a bit later if needed.

[bonus points to anyone who can come up with a good slogan! ;)]

Good luck everyone - I will be visiting often to look over these entries.

[ElKootcho]

Can you give us an idea of what your website is all about, who it should appeal to, etc.?

[Adam P.]

Hey! Looks like something out of the mind of "geiger" from over at SitePoint. :D I'll see what I can come up with. :)

[Dan]

I sure he's gland he finally sold it, great design though.

[AhmedF]

Yeah it is geig's .. fell in love with it right when I saw it :D

Enthropia.com is my 'overall business website'

I own quite a few sites .. ranging from programming to gaming to webmastering etc. Enthropia.com is my registered business in Canada, and thus the 'main' company site.

Hope that clears it up.

[geiger]

Yep, yep. It's me. Glad to see my reputation precedes me :)

I suppose I'll check out these forums, eh?

[Adam P.]

Alrighty, here's my entry. I made the 'e' stand out because you mentioned that you'd like it to be used as a branding-type logo on business cards, etc. I hope you like it! :)

<img src='http://www.adampolselli.com/do/enthropia.gif[/img]

[ElKootcho]

My first entry...

[ElKootcho]

another option...

[AhmedF]

And the submissions begin! :)

Adam: The overallish theme looks good, but some things seem a bit off. I like that you sort of isolated the e, but it .. just doesnt seem to work ;). The orange dot looks perfect for business cards and letter heads ... how would it look with actual black text on the blue backrground? Also, dont forget the .com part!

ElKoothcho: I like the way that you have made a brandable 'e'. What I would like it is if the e itself was part of 'Enthropia.com'

Keep them coming guys :D

[mhq]

i will see what i can come up with over the weekend...

[ElKootcho]

a little different style here...What do you think?

[AhmedF]

Heh ... not what im looking for ;)

Im more into 'blockish' lettering ... plus I need to be able to make it able to be placed on a letterhead etc .. I think that would look sorta weird.

And dont forget the '.com'

[ElKootcho]

Originally posted by AhmedF@Feb 15 2003, 03:09 PM
Im more into 'blockish' lettering
Good info. That helps a ton. :D

[TwistedNewMedia]

Hows this?

[AhmedF]

A bit too simple.

I would like the 'e' part of the text, and then be able to remove it as the logo.

If that makes sense :)

[Adam P.]

Here's another try. I hope you like. :)

<img src='http://www.adampolselli.com/do/enthropia2.gif[/img]

[crimsondesigner]

When you stated that you wanted the 'E' to be brandable, my mind kicked into overdrive and I came up with this. Is this somewhat close to what you were talking about?

Erika

[crimsondesigner]

And here is another idea for the logo.

Erika

[TwistedNewMedia]

how about this?

[ElKootcho]

Here's another option for you to consider...

[AhmedF]

Ok.

Adam seems to be getting it. Simple, nice, and elegant. I think Im just a bit more partial to that :)

Adam: It is very nice overall, just seems to be 'missing' something. Some sort of little 'pizzaz' heh

Crimson: I like the way the e sigma one looks. Maybe try it in blacker, and have the fonts more vertical? The second one seems too simple :)

uber: I dont think bevelling is working. So bevel is a no no.

Elkootcho: Looks good overall, but I Dont get the corp/professional appearance .. seems more oriented for clothing or a target towards the younger audience.

[Meldy]

Here is my first stab at your logo design! :) I still need to add a tag line and the .com... I should have more time later today.

[ElKootcho]

Here's another variation of the others I've done.

[crimsondesigner]

Okay i'll try your suggestions later tonight. small question: what do you mean by vertical? Do you want the logo itself to be vertical with the 'e' at the top then the 'n' and so on?

Erika

[Meldy]

Here it is with the tag line and .com. :)

[AhmedF]

Whoops .. sorry I took so long to reply .. my internet was *busted* :(

El Koothcho: The 'e' isnt really blending with the sphere imo. Maybe some changes?

crimson: Hehe .. by vertical, I meant stretch them more vertically so they fill up a bit

Meldy: That looks funky :). Two things again ... maybe a black outline instead? And again .. the 'e'... looks sorta weird.

To All: Im sorry if I am being such a stickler. The 'e' needs to be the strength .. maybe something hand-drawn instead of modified text?

[Zoe]

Here is something I came up with...

http://www.demexdesign.com/enthropia_logo.jpg

http://www.demexdesign.com/e_logo.jpg

http://www.demexdesign.com/e_logo_sml.jpg

[Juvanescence]

*Removed*

[TwistedNewMedia]

sweet design Zoe

[ElKootcho]

Originally posted by AhmedF@Feb 17 2003, 01:48 AM
El Koothcho: The 'e' isnt really blending with the sphere imo. Maybe some changes?
I'm not really sure what you mean by this but here's another version. I really like the "nthropia.com" part and I'll spend some more time working on the "e" if you think this design has potential.

[Juvanescence]

*Removed*

[Zoe]

thanks ubergerlgeek :blush:

[Shadow]

You guys have some good designs. :D Hope Palmer accepts me so I can give a go too!

[crimsondesigner]

Here are the changes you suggested.

Erika

[AhmedF]

And im back :)

For the record, our motto/slogan will be 'Shaping the Digital Future'

Demex: Now we are getting the hang of it ... the 'e' could come right out and be used as a logo :). Erm ... is it possible to make it less ... 'bubbly', and maybe something other than a hand? ALong the lines of something cyber/digital.

j-design: 1. LLoks slick, but a tad too simple. 2. Sorry no .. heh.

El Kootcho: The 'nthropia.com' is spot on. Check out my comments to demex for more about what im looking at with that 'e'

crimson: when I said extend it vertically, I didnt mean to axe the slogan part at all! :). Again, I need the 'e' to be usable as a logo itself

Remember guys ... its Enthropia.com .. not JUST Enthropia

[Liz]

had a bit of time this evening because a client's site was down (I'm enjoying it while it lasts) so I thought I'd toss my hat into the ring with two quick entries just in done in black for now:

http://clients.snapfire.com/enthropia.gif

Thanks for your consideration.

- Liz.

[Zoe]

What do you think of these changes?

http://www.demexdesign.com/enthropia_logo2.gif

http://www.demexdesign.com/enthropia_logo2.1.gif

http://www.demexdesign.com/enthropia_logo2.2.gif

[AhmedF]

rabbit: The second one looks much better ... that e could be used in isolation :). Two things .... Anyway to make it a bit more ... colorful with the site colors? And the e itself ... sorta reminds me of glaxo smith ;)

Demex: Looks better now ... but that hand confuses me. Any possiblity to see it with a digital/tech type of image instead? And can you show how it would look in blac kand white

Thanks :)

[Juvanescence]

*Removed*

[Zoe]

what sort of digital/tech image do you wish to use? PC, mouse, abstract? the way I was reading the slogan was that the hand was helping to shape the digital future which is the 'e'.

[AhmedF]

j-design: Hehe .. looks good, but I dont think it will fit with the image.

Demex: Ahh ... now I understand :). Well, when it says 'shaping digital', perhaps have a mouse, disk.. sorry, Im not very creative :(. I would also prefer if it wasnt a standard clip art image .. unique perhaps? B)

Just to clarify when I keep talking about the 'e', imagine taking it away, and then sticking it in the corner of a page. So lets say I have a 10 page report, and in one of the top corners is just the 'e' itself.

[beetle]

More trouble for you, AhmedF :P Three renderings of what is essentially the same idea

<img src='http://www.peterbailey.net/clients/do/enthropia/logo1.gif[/img]

http://www.peterbailey.net/clients/do/enthropia/logo2.gif

http://www.peterbailey.net/clients/do/enthropia/logo3.gif

And a couple possible print renderings

http://www.peterbailey.net/clients/do/enthropia/logo_print.gif

I tried to use design cues that existed within your site template, rather than create something completely new. There's a certain amount of mix'n'matching that could occur here :D

[Shadow]

heh 'Shaping the Digital Future' nice!
Wonder who came up with that? :rolleyes:
Also I dont like that hand much.. Demax did you draw that your self? or cut it out?
If you have 3D Max I can show you how to make a much nicer hand.

[Palmer]

Originally posted by AhmedF@Feb 18 2003, 12:48 AM
And im back :)

For the record, our motto/slogan will be 'Shaping the Digital Future'

:unsure: She got it from Ahmed, he said it up there a little. Please refrain from posting opinions or offering help to the design team unless you're running the contest. If they need help, they'll ask :)

[Liz]

Here's 2 updated entries based on my original:

http://clients.snapfire.com/enthropia2.gif

Thanks,
Liz.

[Shadow]

Here is what I ment with the hand/digital effect. (image attached) its an example of the idea I had...


Palmer, at http://www.designoutpost.com/forums/index....f=4&t=151&st=15 (http://www.designoutpost.com/forums/index.php?s=&act=ST&f=4&t=151&st=15) about 6th post down you have made a sample picture of your idea, but I do not belive you were running that contest. You also game your opinion:
"I think it's a neat idea using the UCCC in a circle like that but I'd have to agree, looks more like something you'd see on a metal bands t-shirt. It is a very awesome logo, maybe just not appropriate for a church group. Jon, maybe you can stick with the UCCC in a circle but make it a little softer and rounder. Here, I did something quick to show you what I mean and I used an icthus instead of a cross (your cross looks a little like a dagger)"
I also do not see Syntax asking for help or ideas on there.
Please someone explain to me why the 'refrain' rule apply only to me? (Email bugz51@hotmail.com)
Thank you for your time.

[Shadow]

edited by Demex: Sorry but only design members are allowed to attach images and ideas for logos.

[ElKootcho]

Here's a version with the brandable 'e':

[Palmer]

Originally posted by Shadow@Feb 18 2003, 11:54 PM
Here is what I ment with the hand/digital effect. (image attached) its an example of the idea I had...


Palmer, at http://www.designoutpost.com/forums/index....f=4&t=151&st=15 (http://www.designoutpost.com/forums/index.php?s=&act=ST&f=4&t=151&st=15) about 6th post down you have made a sample picture of your idea, but I do not belive you were running that contest. You also game your opinion:
"I think it's a neat idea using the UCCC in a circle like that but I'd have to agree, looks more like something you'd see on a metal bands t-shirt. It is a very awesome logo, maybe just not appropriate for a church group. Jon, maybe you can stick with the UCCC in a circle but make it a little softer and rounder. Here, I did something quick to show you what I mean and I used an icthus instead of a cross (your cross looks a little like a dagger)"
I also do not see Syntax asking for help or ideas on there.
Please someone explain to me why the 'refrain' rule apply only to me? (Email bugz51@hotmail.com)
Thank you for your time.
These posts are unnecessary and have nothing to do with the contest. If you have a problem with the way I operate my site then take it up with me via private message. I am allowed to say things because I am the Administrator.

I'm not going to allow someone to barge in and tell my Design Team, especially one of my Moderators, how to design. I would recommend you quit posting in this thread.

[ElKootcho]

Here's another with the 'e' reminding me of the '@' symbol in e-mail addresses:

[AhmedF]

And im Back!

Beetle: I Like that stuff. Possible to merge the nthropia from #2 with the outline of #1? :). While the 'e' is getting there, it feels like its ... lacking some flair. Show me the creativity I know you have :D

rabbitdog: That E looks familiar :). But that is DEFINATELY looking nice ... just one thing again [heh] ... as my friend said, the 'e' isnt "distinctive". Maybe a slight spruce up? But it is definately looking good.

El Kootcho: #1 reminded me too much of the older IE 'e' look, and the second one looks ... hehehe .. I dont think it would fit ;). Try imagining the 'e' by itself, on a shirt, right where the breast-pocket is.

I hope my comment to ElKootcho clears up by what I want for the 'e' .. something very brandable and identifiable ... I am likely going to get a plain white shirt made with 'Enthropia' where the breast pocket is, and the 'e' logo on the back.

Sigh im a geek! :D


Btw ... the finalised motto/slogan is 'Empowering the Digital Future'. Also, the '.com' is no longer required.
No more 'design' changes after this promise B)

[mhq]

here is one i just put together...

[ElKootcho]

working on the "e"...what do you think?

[beetle]

Ok, couple revisions

http://www.peterbailey.net/clients/do/enthropia/logo4.gif

http://www.peterbailey.net/clients/do/enthropia/logo5.gif

http://www.peterbailey.net/clients/do/enthropia/logo6.gif

I added your finalized slogan. Notice the tilt of the 'e' in 'empowering'?

Here's one with some extra curves in the 'e'

http://www.peterbailey.net/clients/do/enthropia/logo7.gif

Oh, and can you clarify 'flair' for me? In color/style or shape?

[Zoe]

Hi Ahmed,

I tried a couple of other ideas but it just wasn't working the way I had envisioned. Hopefully my other designs are still in the running. If I get a chance to try again I will post it here. : )

Thank you for your consideration.

[AhmedF]

Sorry I havent been around.

mhg: looks like you got something going, but I Think it needs a bit more finish. Some color perhaps? ;)

ElKoothcho: Getting there. It gives me a science/atomic vibe, which as a comp engineer, reminds me of my hated chem engineer associates! :D. Perhaps something more techy/digital?

beetle: I like the first one, especially with how the e is close to it. Could you somehow make the text itself like how #2 is? Basically keep the bluish outline, but have hte inner text like #2?

When I talk about flair, I mean .. erm .. pizzaz.. style. Something that would make me look at the 'e' and go 'Wow!' .. or something that when I see that 'e' once, I would remember it.

Demex: Thank YOU for all the effort you have put in. Still a bit of time to go, so maybe you can get some inspiration and blow all of us away ;). I will definately remember your entry though.

Ill be back soon guys... remember.. somehow that 'e' has to have a 'i remember this' factor. Best if it could also incorporate something digital/tech .. perhaps in the background behind it.

[beetle]

Could you somehow make the text itself like how #2 is? Basically keep the bluish outline, but have hte inner text like #2?
Sure, but you really didn't comment on the curvy 'e', so I'll leave it in for now. I like the dynamic it provides.

http://www.peterbailey.net/clients/do/enthropia/logo8.gif

Or would you rather see the regular 'e' and no slogan?

Also, I don't think putting anything into the background would help, and could possibly hurt. The more complicated a logo is, the harder it can be to remember, something you are obviously key on. Here, try this. Go grab a piece of paper and a pencil. I'll wait :whistle:


Ready?


Sketch a Pepsi logo. Or Cingular logo.


Not bad, right?


Ready again?


Sketch a Michelen man. How about Reebok or Subaru?


It's not that those companies have bad logos, it's just that this "See it once remember it always" effect you are going for means the 'e' has to be simple.

[AhmedF]

Oh no you got me there! :)

Just two slight modification ... the 'e' .. can u made that 'point' a bit more curved? [if you dont know which one I am talking about, I can post a picture]

Also, can you bump the slogan down so that enthropia is just on its own? Sorta like your previous #1 was.

Lastly [uhoh #3!], could I see it in black and white?

Thanks!

[AhmedF]

Just wanted to say ... we have 8 days until it official 'ends'

No need to rush folks B)

[beetle]

Are we getting close? :unsure:

<img src='http://www.peterbailey.net/clients/do/enthropia/logo9.gif[/img]

And the b/w version (simple)

http://www.peterbailey.net/clients/do/enthropia/logo_bw.gif

Could be done with the shadows/gradients, etc as well. slogan too.

[AhmedF]

That is looking good :ph34r:

Is it possible to curve the part of the e instead of having it pointy?

The black and white needs some .. improvements I think. Maybe something as simple as putting space between the e and n might make it work.

On a weird request .. can u show me #1 with nthropia moved down a couple of pixels? :unsure:

[beetle]

Sure, ok, and sure

http://www.peterbailey.net/clients/do/enthropia/logo10.gif

http://www.peterbailey.net/clients/do/enthropia/logo_print2.gif

http://www.peterbailey.net/clients/do/enthropia/logo11.gif

I like it better with the point :)

[Huhhso]

:D Hello All!
This is my first entry and post. Here is my submission for the contest.
Thanks!

[Palmer]

Hey there Waila, glad to see you got my invitation. I was beginning to wonder :unsure: make sure you stop by the introductions forum to say hi. I'd like the rest of the team to get to meet you :)

Welcome! (nice logo too) :)

Palmer

[AhmedF]

beetle: you are right .. it looksbetter with the curve ... and pointy :).

huhhso: Now that is something else [in a good way!]. Can we try these slight modifications: Remove the arrows [except for the one with the 'e'], and make the dot above the i orange. Also, cna I see it without the curved letters? [as in straight letter R]

Also rabbit [I Hope you see this] .. been looking over your original ones. Can you show me a colorized version of your original concept 2? I was looking at GSK, and its nothing like that heh :blink:

[Huhhso]

Palmer - Don't worry I didn't forget ;)

AhmedF: Thanks for the quick feedback, I've attached the revisions you asked for below.
:)
Thanks

[AhmedF]

That is looking nice :)

Three more things Huh .. hehe

Can you change it to 'Empowering the digital future'

Also, can you use a lighter blue? One from the design? :)

And can you show the text in black and white, and the 'e' by itself in black and white?

Thanks B)

[ElKootcho]

Here are a few more to add to the deluge! :wacko:

[QSDA]

Hello!.
Here is my 1st entry.

http://portfolio.iu.edu/otseren/logos/enthropia01.gif
I was trying create something unique yet simple that could be recognized like how Nike's swoosh is recognized.
The font is also very simple, the reason is that simple fonts stay readable at the smallest points that is possible.

http://portfolio.iu.edu/otseren/logos/enthropia02.gif
Couple more logo variations...
http://portfolio.iu.edu/otseren/logos/enthropia3.gif

Let me know what you like and what not.
Thanks.
~QSDA.

[Palmer]

Hey Joe, just so you know. When you post an entriy to make the image show up in the post, click the IMG button after you click "reply to topic" and put in the full url address of where the image is located on your server. It makes it easier for the contest holder to see it without having to click on a link. :)

I edited your message for you.

Palmer

[AhmedF]

Ahhh

More entires :)

Im going to try to break and enter six pages .. hehe :D

El Koothcho: Im digging the first one. Any way to make it a bit more 'e' like?

QSDA: Now this is something else! :). Can you try to ... 'flatten' the blue e so that it doesnt take up so much veritcal space? Could you also try to use that ... stretched e as the 'e' in enthropia itself?

Some **** good stuff here .. it will be hard to choose! :unsure:

[ElKootcho]

Originally posted by AhmedF@Feb 21 2003, 10:51 PM
El Koothcho: Im digging the first one. Any way to make it a bit more 'e' like?
Here are a few options along with the original.

[Huhhso]

Hey there, here are the revsions plus I added an optional effect to the E alone
see attached.
Thanks :)

[AhmedF]

GAH!!!

Its going to be hard to pick a winner!! :lol:

El: The first one looks good. Can we see it with the design? :)

Huhh .. that last 'e' looks awesome ... can u somehow incorporate some orange into it?

[Huhhso]

Sure, here ya go.
:D

[AhmedF]

SIX PAGES! :ph34r:

QSDA has promised me another entry .. waiting on him now!

Unless anyone else suddenly has a moment of genius :)

[QSDA]

O.K. here we go.
http://portfolio.iu.edu/otseren/logos/01qsda.gif

Black and white.
http://portfolio.iu.edu/otseren/logos/01qsdaBnW.gif

http://portfolio.iu.edu/otseren/logos/02qsda.gif

http://portfolio.iu.edu/otseren/logos/qsda03.jpg

[QSDA]

Sorry I got carried away and said "world" instead of "future" :(

[ElKootcho]

Added the 'e' to the rest of the logo

[Liz]

Saw your request for my original version 2 colorized -

here it is:

http://clients.snapfire.com/enthropia3.gif

Thanks again for your consideration,
Liz.

[Liz]

Here's a few adjustments, and the logo in full, and standalone "e" format:

http://clients.snapfire.com/enthropia5.gif

[AhmedF]

Sorry guys ... things have been mad hectic.

The contest is now -over- and I would like to offer my sincere thanks to EVERYONE who put something up .. you guys are fantastic! B)

Im mulling over the last few, and will have a decision soon.

[AhmedF]

And the winner is ...

*drum roll*

rabbitdog

I would also like to thank everyone that applied ... I will likely have something here again in a while ;)

[Palmer]

Congratulations Liz! :woot:

Thanks Ahmed, good luck with Enthropia.com :)

[Liz]

Thanks Palmer!

Glad you liked the logo Ahmed. :)

[Adam P.]

Fantastic job Liz! :D You've always been one of my favorite designers. :)

[Palmer]

Ahmed, of the two versions up there ^ Which one are you going with, #1 or #2? I need to know so I can put it on the home page.

Thanks :)

[Liz]

Originally posted by Adam P.@Mar 2 2003, 03:35 PM
Fantastic job Liz! :D You've always been one of my favorite designers. :)
Thanks Adam, I'm flattered! :)

[AhmedF]

#1 :)

[motiveX]

I have to say, I have been impressed with the logo designs I have seen within this forum so far.

Both QSDA and Huhso are quite impressive logo designers.

Hell I might even have them try and design one for me.

:P

[QSDA]

thanks for the comments!