A New Year, A New Identity, A New Look - $200

[Palmer]

This is the first official contest of 2004 and a very important one at that. :D

As the designers know from a message posted by yours truly in their forum, Design Outpost is growing up. What used to be a Design Team consisting of mainly young up-n-comers and hobbyists has evolved into a highly talented group of seasoned professional veterans of the graphic design business.

Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to reflect that change in our new design.

Company name: Design Outpost
Company profile: Graphic design firm with professional, experienced, hand selected designers from all over the world
Domain name: http://www.DesignOutpost.com
What is the scope of this project?: New direction company is taking to better represent itself to the business world
Who is the intended audience?: Business owners, mostly small to medium size companies.
Mood or tone?: Professional, corporate, clean, simplistic, non-flashy but not boring
Color psychology?: I prefer lighter colors over dark but I will leave that up to you. I know it's overdone but blue is very calming and pleasant, I also like tans. Feel free to take your own direction though. I'm awful at color choice :)
Any dynamic elements?: The new site will use a log-in box and will have a search box as well. There is a possibility of a poll feature as well. I will probably be putting ad space somewhere but most likely not a 468x60, more like some small ads on the left or right. It will also have a smaller version of our current "latest contests" on our home page.
Who are your main competitors?: None ;)
What resources can you provide?: I will attach the .psd of the "Outpost" in our logo. The rest of the logo is Trebuchet MS, Design is bold and Outpost is normal.
Websites you like:
http://www.msn.com
http://www.amazon.com
http://www.barnesandnoble.com
Deadline: 1/16/2004 (give or take a week) ;)

We will be using a content management system to operate the site...
http://demo.mamboserver.com

You can get an idea of the layout from that. It will consist of a header, 3 columns in the middle and a footer. Most of the menu items will be on the left but feel free to scatter other ones in various places.

Here are 3 sites that are in various stages of developement by me that are using the same content management system. This will give you an idea of its flexibility...
http://www.outposthosting.com/~oshp/
http://www.outposthosting.com/~kinder/
http://www.naplesbonitarental.com

I would like to keep the load time down. There are several design sites that are so bloated with graphics they take forever to load. Yaxay (http://www.yaxay.com) would be a good example of that and most of the templates you see at Template Monster. On the other hand don't skimp on the graphics so much that it becomes boring. A nice mix like the sites I linked you to is what I'm after.

Hopefully that's enough to get you started. Please ask any questions you may have. Thanks and good luck :tup:

[Palmer]

I forgot to add that I do not want it to be fixed width, I would like it to stretch to fit the users monitor like the current site does so keep that in mind when you design.

[geofharries]

Palmer,

Do you just want the original artwork (PSD, PNG, etc.) or do you need it coded as well? If coded, HTML 4.01 & CSS or XHTML 1.0 & CSS?

geof

[Palmer]

I want it designed in Paint Shop Pro and hand coded in Notepad but what I want is something I know I most likely won't get :D

Paint Shop Pro can open a layered .psd, can someone email me a layered .png made in Fireworks and I will let you know if it can be opened in PSP as well?

The coding will most likely be done by me but I may ask for it to be spliced and coded and I will hand code it from there. It really depends on the complexity of the template. I code in HTML 4.01 & CSS if that matters.

[geofharries]

Palmer,

I've sent you a PM with a PNG sample.

geof

[Palmer]

Ok, after a few tries we got it to work. If you export the .psd from Fireworks I can open it in Paint Shop Pro. Thanks Jeff. :tup:

In other words whatever you use to mock up the template, if you win, I will need you to convert it to a psd before you send it to me.

[A1future]

HI Palmer,

I am on the job already :)

Will get back ASAP.

Regards

Srish

[geofharries]

Palmer,

I am going to enter as well. Gotta love the high profile jobs :)

geof

[Palmer]

I thought about making entering a requirement of all the members of the Design Team but I didn't want to see what 2Square might come up with so I didn't :D

Glad to hear you'll be giving it a go :tup:

[beatz]

Palmer,

not that the current logo isn't great or anything....but what about a new logo ? :D

[Michael]

<!--QuoteBegin-Palmer+Jan 2 2004, 03:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Palmer @ Jan 2 2004, 03:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I thought about making entering a requirement of all the members of the Design Team but I didn't want to see what 2Square might come up with so I didn't :D

Glad to hear you'll be giving it a go&nbsp; :tup: [/b][/quote]
Thanks Palmer for the compliment :( Maybe I just might enter and show you all :P

[Palmer]

<!--QuoteBegin-beatz+Jan 2 2004, 11:14 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (beatz @ Jan 2 2004, 11:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Palmer,

not that the current logo isn't great or anything....but what about a new logo ? :D [/b][/quote]
You're being kind :) Let's see what the logo looks like in the new template and we'll go from there.

Michael: Bring it on B)

[elements]

Oh yeah, I'm game.
Give me a week or so.

[Palmer]

Some of you had trouble opening my "post" .psd I've saved it again in a newer version of Paint Shop Pro and replaced the zip file in my original message up there ^^ Hopefully it will work now.

[Tim]

Palmer,

I will definitely be entering in this. The logo didn't work for me before but I downloaded the updated zip and it works perfectly.

Oh, by the way, I use Paint Shop Pro also (6 1/2 years and counting). I like to prove to people that what ever you do in photoshop, I can do in Jasc Paint Shop Pro, it just takes more time.

Most likely expect an entry from me on sunday.

- Tim

[Palmer]

Well feel free to make it in PSP. That would be my preffered format but I know a lot of the designers use Photoshop or Fireworks.

I'm glad to hear we'll have your participation in this. So far just the guys have shown interest. Zoe? Nathalie? Luc? Patty? Liz? Waila? Are you going to let the boys win this thing? :D

[Anne]

Ehh, you forgot me. The girl who wasn't able to open the .psd file :D I am soon finished with mine so you can expect an entry realy soon (maybe tomorrow).

-Anne

[Palmer]

Oops. :blush: Sorry Anne, didn't mean to leave you off the list. Looking forward to your entry. Thanks :tup:

[jonmulk]

How can I not enter this one?? :-)

Expect an entry from me (albeit a late one, seeing as I have a whole bunch of Uni project deadlines coming up real soon).

[Palmer]

I wanted to add that even though I don't think I want anything heavy on graphics, I have an account with Photos.com (http://www.photos.com/en/index) so if you want to use some of those watermarked images in your mock-up, that will be fine. I will find the non-watermarked version and provide it to you if you are chosen as the winner.

[A1future]

I myself have an account with photos.com - so this will not be a problem :)

[Tim]

I just grabbed my collection of photodisc volumes for this one. (I only have 3 volumes.)

[geofharries]

Palmer,

What were you envisioning for the homepage's content; is it to be the same as what's on the homepage of DO.com currently, such as Web Design Contests, Several Choices and You Call the Shots? If so, then never mind :) but if you'd like to see different content there, please let me know as I'll be looking to push some pixels around in Photoshop today.

thanks

geof

[geofharries]

Palmer,

Adding onto my last point, what will the navigation items include? In your other forum post there is mention of a newsletter, articles, and tutorials, none of which show up in the current navbar. Do you want these new links, plus what's already up, or are you considering a shift in the information architecture?

What will the format be for page layout? Is it still going to be a forum design, or are you thinking of moving in another direction? Examples woudl be great.

thanks

geof

[Palmer]

Geof (and others),
I'm going for a different approach to the way the site is represented. Lorem ipsum text is fine as far as the text goes.

What I'm looking to focus on on the home page would still be the variety of the designs but also that they can expect professionals in the design field to be working on their projects not hobbyists or teenagers.

The goal is to have the visitor see us a a design firm with many designers that are invited to join based on their ability and specific talents. That they are from all over the world. I want this site to be represented as a prestigious company that they can trust and that they will not find a better value for their money.

Did that help?

[geofharries]

Sure did, content-wise. This will influence my design quite a bit.

What about navigation; do you have a final set of section links that you'd like to see as the main menu?

geof

[Palmer]

For the links you can use what's on the home page. New additions will be articles, about us, a newsletter, copyright statement, partners, network sites, and probably a few more.

It's your choice where they show up. The CMS is pretty flexible in where they appear. The majority will be on a left side menu. I wanted to add that they need to be all text links and I will them pretty them up with css. I can use an image map for certain links like the ones at the top of this site if that works with your design...
http://www.outposthosting.com/~oshp/

[geofharries]

Palmer,

Great. Thanks for the clarification. Off to church, and then some Photoshopin'...

This one's gonna be fun :)

geof

[Palmer]

I'm like a kid before Christmas. This waiting is almost painful :D

O.k., first one to enter gets 2Square as their own personal servant for the day. Any takers? :tup:

[rlevant]

too bad you have to be on the team to enter :(

[AlexKogan]

...does he do laundry?...

[Palmer]

I'm guessing from the picture in his profile (http://www.designoutpost.com/forums/uploads/photo-256.jpg) that he does his own :D

[geofharries]

Palmer,

I started my template design late yesteray evening (my wife needed the computer to finish her masters thesis before she flies down south for the defense) so I couldn't put a lot of time into it. Sorry. I worked on it this morning before coming to work, and should have something to show in a day or two. This one is tough! Lots of pressure to break the ol' mold...

geof

[Palmer]

No problem. I'm just anxious ^_^

[Michael]

<!--QuoteBegin-Palmer+Jan 5 2004, 09:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Palmer @ Jan 5 2004, 09:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm like a kid before Christmas. This waiting is almost painful :D

O.k., first one to enter gets 2Square as their own personal servant for the day. Any takers? :tup: [/b][/quote]
Please...please let it be one of the ladies :D

[Michael]

<!--QuoteBegin-Palmer+Jan 5 2004, 10:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Palmer @ Jan 5 2004, 10:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm guessing from the picture in his profile (http://www.designoutpost.com/forums/uploads/photo-256.jpg) that he does his own :D [/b][/quote]
Are you saying I look a tramp ;)

[Palmer]

Lol. You're such a dog. :lol2:

[Michael]

Woof..woof :rolleyes:

[Tim]

Palmer,

The wait is over! I have nearly completed 1 of a couple designs for you to see. This one I used many colors instead of just a few (you dont see that much anymore). I also used photography, but I faded the right sides of them so they can be inserted into tables with bg colors. Obviously colors can be changed.

I didnt really do anything with the content areas because I dont know how you want it. I just left some parts blank.

This design also makes room for alot more on the sides(polls, news, etc..)

I didnt add much navigation items as of yet because I dont know if you even will like the design.

Enough telling you about the design, go ahead and preview it. I attached the main page preview in this post and the content page in the next post. (sorry for low quality)

Thanks,
Tim

[Tim]

content page

[Tim]

Oh and 2square, I am writing a list of things for you to do for me as we speak. :D

[Palmer]

Thanks for being the first out of the gate Tim. :tup: I'll post comments this evening. Enjoy Michael :lol2:

[Palmer]

O.k. time for comments :)

Good stuff:
I like how clean the general design is. It's cool how you used different colors for the headings. Everything is organized and not cluttered. I love how you have "compartmentalized" the sections with teasers and then linking them to more info. That is very classy and enables us to get a lot of information on the page but still keeping it clean and uncluttered. Superb job.

Other stuff:
-I think the picture that you've "colorized" for the home page is a good choice for a photo but the color is a little to hard on the eyes compared to the other colors in your color scheme.

-It seems like there needs to be something on the top right opposite the logo. Maybe some horizontal links, each with a different color that matches the header colors or something else. I'm not sure. I guess the balance is very good all over the page but there just seems to be some wasted space there. I don't want a banner ad and I don't want you to put a big image because it will clutter it up. Sorry if that isn't helpful. :)

-For the buttons on the log in and the search I would like those to be graphics instead of the default gray ones.

-I would also like to see some other small graphics (icons) scattered about. For instance a small arrow after learn more.

Overall Tim I think you have really followed my instructions very well. Thanks for entering. It looks very nice. :tup:

[motiveX]

I might do something for this...but my design ideas might be too much for your reserved nature.

:lol:

[Michael]

Tim I'm all yours........in reason ;)

Looking good......er I mean the designs :)

[Tim]

Palmer,

Thanks for the comments, I will get to work on the revisions as soon as I can.

2square,

I order you to do what ever you always do. or something :huh:

[Michael]

<!--QuoteBegin-Tim+Jan 6 2004, 01:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Tim @ Jan 6 2004, 01:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 2square,

I order you to do what ever you always do. or something :huh: [/b][/quote]
Another easy day for me then ;)

[designmarket]

Can't help it {2square - where's MY BIRDS} LOL :P

[Michael]

<!--QuoteBegin-design-market+Jan 6 2004, 02:03 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (design-market @ Jan 6 2004, 02:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Can't help it {2square - where's MY BIRDS} LOL :P [/b][/quote]
Birds?? I though it was the one :D I shall PM you with an update.

[A1future]

HI Palmer,

Pls chk

http://www.A1bpo.com/palmer


Here you will 10 sample designs created specially for YOU. Pls chk these and let me have your feedback.

Feel free to suggest revisions as may be required.

I am at your service till you are 100% satisfied.

Will eagerly await your feedback so that we can take this discussion to the next level.

Regards

Srish Agrawal

If you have any problem in downloading or viewing the files feel free to let me know.

[Palmer]

Wow Srish, lots to look over. You've been busy. All of them downloaded fine. I will give comments later when I have more time to dedicate to reviewing them.

Thank you for all your hard work.

[Trifolic]

Hey Srish, Great designs, You wouldn't happen to have the name and phone number to the girl in the last design would ya? :wub:

[Palmer]

That's my wife! :angry:


















Just kidding ;)

[A1future]

I have it !!
Wanna barter with the Nos. that you have ?? ;)
We can share :lol:

HA HA HA HA !!!!

[motiveX]

I should have my entry in a little while.

I have to eat lunch and sit on my *** for a lil while though first.

I am tweaking the design so I can use it later, cause I know its gonna be too 'darko' for you.

:ph34r:

Note: I just realized I forgot to put the nav in. LOL.

Might be a while longer.

:help: <_<

[geofharries]

If I win, I am buying a new iPod mini http://www.apple.com/ipodmini/

But I guess if I want to win, I have to enter. Should have something to show by tomorrow. I took a complete departure away from where I was going early this morning, so I started from scratch.

geof

[motiveX]

<!--QuoteBegin-geofharries+Jan 6 2004, 04:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (geofharries @ Jan 6 2004, 04:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If I win, I am buying a new iPod mini http://www.apple.com/ipodmini/

But I guess if I want to win, I have to enter. Should have something to show by tomorrow. I took a complete departure away from where I was going early this morning, so I started from scratch.

geof [/b][/quote]
I might just have to make that my next purchase.

I need something reliable to take to the gym with me.

My last mp3 player crapped out on me after 8 months of nonstop usage.

[ant1832]

<!--QuoteBegin-geofharries+Jan 6 2004, 02:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (geofharries @ Jan 6 2004, 02:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If I win, I am buying a new iPod mini http://www.apple.com/ipodmini/

But I guess if I want to win, I have to enter. Should have something to show by tomorrow. I took a complete departure away from where I was going early this morning, so I started from scratch.

geof[/b][/quote]
I was disappointed by the iPod mini's size, colors and design. You can get 11GB more for $50 more. My wife got me the 40GB one for xmas :tup: and I'm completely satisfied with it. Its an awesome piece of hardware.

Palmer I'll have an entry soon as well. B)

[motiveX]

What can brown do for YOU?

:ermm:

Raja just asked me this before I posted this:

Raja: I dont get the anonymity
Brown: ?
Raja: covering of the eyes
Brown: none of us have ever met. none of us really know each other. was to show the separation of the Net
Brown: yet the cohesiveness of us working together and working towards a common goal. client satisfaction.

http://www.placidminds.com/do/brown.html

:blink:

[geofharries]

Sick design, Sean. That's the best yet, IMHO.

geof

[motiveX]

<!--QuoteBegin-geofharries+Jan 6 2004, 06:10 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (geofharries @ Jan 6 2004, 06:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Sick design, Sean. That's the best yet, IMHO.

geof [/b][/quote]
Thanks Geof...

:wub:

It was certainly fun to make. I think I design better knowing something isn't what someone is looking for.

:blink: :lol:

[Michael]

<!--QuoteBegin-geofharries+Jan 6 2004, 11:10 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (geofharries @ Jan 6 2004, 11:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Sick design, Sean. That's the best yet, IMHO.

geof [/b][/quote]
Sick or slick :huh:



Sean, outstanding ;)

[motiveX]

<!--QuoteBegin-2square+Jan 6 2004, 06:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (2square @ Jan 6 2004, 06:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-geofharries+Jan 6 2004, 11:10 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (geofharries @ Jan 6 2004, 11:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Sick design, Sean. That's the best yet, IMHO.

geof [/b][/quote]
Sick or slick :huh:



Sean, outstanding ;) [/b][/quote]
Sick is slang for cool or nice or SLICK.

Kind of like someone saying something is bad, but they actually mean its good.

****, I tell you...if it weren't for us North American folks, you Brits would be lost.

Or German.

:lol: :blink: :)

[Michael]

I see...


Hang lose bro.. B)

[geofharries]

Hang lose? I think you mean "loose". Crazy brit :)

See skateboard.com for more details >> http://www.skateboard.com/Frontside/101/Ro...es/jargon.asp#s (http://www.skateboard.com/Frontside/101/Rookies/jargon.asp#s) Scroll down and then up for "gnarly".

geof

[motiveX]

<!--QuoteBegin-geofharries+Jan 6 2004, 07:10 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (geofharries @ Jan 6 2004, 07:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hang lose? I think you mean "loose". Crazy brit :)

See skateboard.com for more details >> http://www.skateboard.com/Frontside/101/Ro...es/jargon.asp#s (http://www.skateboard.com/Frontside/101/Rookies/jargon.asp#s) Scroll down and then up for "gnarly".

geof [/b][/quote]
:lol: :tup:

[Michael]

errr..silly me, I'm on the red wine again :rip:

[motiveX]

Palmer here is how it would look on a higher resolution...IE with a 100% bleed.

It is designed for optimal viewing within 800X600, but in higher resolutions will expand according to the settings.

[Anne]

Here are two from me

Temp 1 (http://www.newfacedesign.net/designoutpost/skin/skin1.jpg)
Temp 2 (http://www.newfacedesign.net/designoutpost/skin/skin_2.jpg)

- Anne

[rlevant]

WOW

Seans rocks

[Palmer]

Thanks Sean and Anne for the entries. I have a lot of work to do reviewing later this evening. I think it's interesting how everyone has taken very different routes from my instructions. That's great. :tup:

[ElKootcho]

****, I tell you...if it weren't for us North American folks, you Brits would be lost.
Or German.

:lol2:

[Palmer]

Ok, first up for review.

Srish:
You do not have to revise every one of your entries. I will probably narrow it down to the top 5 designs and have revisions then. Of course it's your choice if you want. Maybe you can just revise a few of my favorites. :)

http://www.a1bpo.com/palmer/1.jpg
-I like how you put the buttons for the other sites in the network. I would need those to be at the very top to be consistent with the other sites in the network and they would need to be smaller because we will be adding more sites in the coming year.
-I won't be using large banner ads in a prominent spot. I will be using small ads on the left and right as well as button ads.
-The layout is fine with all of its compartments. I like that.
-The one negative thing I could say about it is there are a lot of bevels. I'm going for a little more cleaner look and less graphics more icons.

http://www.a1bpo.com/palmer/2.jpg
-Same thing regarding the network sites being at the top. I do like those tabs though. Maybe use those for other links.
-It's a little dark for the look I'm going for and the yellow I think would be better if it was a light tan color.

http://www.a1bpo.com/palmer/3.jpg
-Good use of the small icons
-The rest just isn't the look I'm trying to get. It looks similar to a lot of the designs you see at template sites. I want to stand out from the crowd and me more unique if you know what I mean.

http://www.a1bpo.com/palmer/f1.jpg
-One of my favorites that you designed, only comment would be that we need to get the network sites away from the main navigation. I don't want to confuse the first time visitor. In addition I want Outpost added to the links in the network.

http://www.a1bpo.com/palmer/f2.jpg
-Same as previous comments

http://www.a1bpo.com/palmer/f3.jpg
-same as previous comments but looks like it is missing something. Maybe a photo would help it. Out of f1, f2, and f3, I like f3 the least and f1 the most.

http://www.a1bpo.com/palmer/indexpage1.jpg
-The dark blue bar with the network sites is too big and wastes a lot of space "above the fold". That can be smaller.
-I like the header, very nice. My only concern is it taking awhile to load.
-The log in box can go under the links on the left

http://www.a1bpo.com/palmer/indexpage2.jpg
-The header takes up way too much space. They have to scroll down to see the content. I don't want them to have to "hunt" for what they want. I want it to be right there when they see the first page.
-The rest of the design just isn't what I'm looking for. The colors are kind of drab, depressing and dull. Sorry :(

http://www.a1bpo.com/palmer/indexpage3.jpg
-Same comments about the colors as above
-Doesn't have enough uniqueness about it.

http://www.a1bpo.com/palmer/indexpage4.jpg
-The comment about having a lot of the main content and links seen as they first visit without scrolling down applies here. The photo is just too big I guess. It would be a shame to cut her out of the design though :brow:
-Good choice of most of the colors. The blues and grays on the right are kind of dull though.


Sean:
I always wondered what D.O. would look like Xteriorized :D

I don't have any revisions for you just some general comments. I know it's not your style but I really need a 3 column layout for this site. There is going to be a lot of content to display. Similar to a portal. I think it's a very cool design. I like a lot of what you've done. I'm not sure how I woul make it work with the content management system we plan to use but that is something that I can look in to.

I would want you to reverse where you have the network links with the main navigation links.

Very interesting how you covered everyones eyes. Very subtle touch.

Overall, very nice. Although I've said I don't like big headers for this site, it would be a shame to have you cut yours down so I'll leave that alone. Keep in mind it might get altered if you are chosen. If that is against your principles let me know now :)

Anne:
http://www.newfacedesign.net/designoutpost.../skin/skin1.jpg (http://www.newfacedesign.net/designoutpost/skin/skin1.jpg)
Same as with Sean, you won't need to make any revisions. Here are some comments though. The header image will need to be smaller and I'm not sure if the building is fitting for what we do here. The mouse is a good touch. maybe with a different image it might work better. The color of the image is a little too vibrant. I'm looking for pastels or muted colors. Overall nice job. Thanks.

http://www.newfacedesign.net/designoutpost...skin/skin_2.jpg (http://www.newfacedesign.net/designoutpost/skin/skin_2.jpg)
Not really unique enough for me. That handshake picture must be in every business template on the web :lol2: The colors are pretty good though and it is very clean. I think it's missing some of thse small images I like. I call them icons or mini graphics.

Thanks everyone for entering. I have a favorite but I won't tell which one it is :shifty:

[Luc]

Sean, I gotta say AWESOME!

[motiveX]

Thanks for the feedback Palmer. :)

I always wondered what D.O. would look like Xteriorized :D

Now you know.

:blink:

I know it's not your style but I really need a 3 column layout for this site. There is going to be a lot of content to display. Similar to a portal.

Not sure a three column layout would work within that design or if I want to ruin the flow as it is. I will screw around and see if anything works, but no promises.

I would want you to reverse where you have the network links with the main navigation links.

So you would want the 'domain outpost' 'programming outpost' ...etc, links up top and the other links where those are?

The main reason I did it visa versa was the other links take up much more space and horizontal space was all I had left. :bang:

Very interesting how you covered everyones eyes. Very subtle touch.

For some reason when I saw that image last night at 2am, I just wanted to cover the eyes after I applied the layered effect on the image and painted the gaussian blur around the image, cept for the two men in the middle who were the focus. Creativity strikes me at weird hours of the day and at the time I wasn't sure why I was doing it.

Overall, very nice. Although I've said I don't like big headers for this site, it would be a shame to have you cut yours down so I'll leave that alone. Keep in mind it might get altered if you are chosen. If that is against your principles let me know now :)

I CAN say, that if the header was to be changed I wouldn't be down with that. Right now I am very happy with the flow of the design and breaking that up would ruin the design in my mind.

I am open to suggestions, as long as it wouldn't take away from the flow of the work.

I will work on seeing about the three column thing tomorrow, but right now my mouse is blinking at me and my computer is telling me it needs to sit its bum in the charger. I guess I worked it too hard today...

:(

*inserts Finding Nemo quote*
Bubbles! Bubbles! My bubbles!
:tup:

[motiveX]

<!--QuoteBegin-Luc+Jan 7 2004, 02:33 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Luc @ Jan 7 2004, 02:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Sean, I gotta say AWESOME! [/b][/quote]
Thanks Luc...

;) :winkiss:

[Zoe]

okies - will see what I can come up with!

[Anne]

I've made some changes to one of the templates. Made the header smaller and the background image lighter (can't see the building now) I also made the colors lighter (pastel). I read that you like small icons so I added some to the menu. Hope you like it :)

Temp 3 (http://www.newfacedesign.net/designoutpost/skin/skin3.jpg)
or
Temp 4 (http://www.newfacedesign.net/designoutpost/skin/skin4.jpg)

- Anne

[Palmer]

Sean:
So you would want the 'domain outpost' 'programming outpost' ...etc, links up top and the other links where those are?


Yes, all the other sites in the network have those at the top. I would like to keep that consistent. I understand your resistence to making the changes and ruining the flow. I do not need you to make revisions at this point. You can keep it as is, those were just comments to look over so you know what might be expected if you are chosen.

To be honest (and I know you would rather hear that) it's a gorgeous design but would probably be a nightmare to work with in conjunction with the content management system. I haven't ruled out your design though. I just need to ponder the possibilities for awhile.

Anne:
Thanks for the updates. I like how the second one looks and other than wanting the middle part white instead of gray, I don't have any suggestions/revisions at this point. I'll let you know if I need any changes when I narrow it down. Thanks again.

[geofharries]

Palmer,

Here is my entry. I've taken some creative liberties with the colours, and thus you won't see much tan in the design....but there is blue! I also tightened up the navbar as well, condensing the main links into new categories that I feel are appropriate. If you'd like me to explain how I imagine this functioning, please let me know and I'll describe the new architecture idea I have.

I figured the homepage could be a bit of a different design compared to the rest of the site, and not so much in the traditional 3-column style. There are 3 columns here; header, left bar and body though. Hopefully Mambo is flexible enough to allow for this type of layout.

The photo of the mountains and lake is from Atlin, BC; way up north near the Yukon. It's one of my own. You can use it if you wish, or I can take a new direction as well.

Looking forward to your thoughts,

geof

<img src='http://www.kwota.com/designoutpost/designoutpost.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

[Palmer]

Thanks Geof. I will comment later. B)

[motiveX]

<!--QuoteBegin-Palmer+Jan 7 2004, 10:21 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Palmer @ Jan 7 2004, 10:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> To be honest (and I know you would rather hear that) it's a gorgeous design but would probably be a nightmare to work with in conjunction with the content management system. I haven't ruled out your design though. I just need to ponder the possibilities for awhile. [/b][/quote]
I knew that coming in. I downloaded Mambo to check it out and saw that it is pretty set in its ways unless you want to create your own template and ECHO the data in the areas of necessity of a different layout/structure...which could be a pain (I didn't look any further than that), but I bet you could do it. From what I saw it was a matter of the ECHO's and PHP code being placed in the areas of the actual site coding...but I didn't take more time to see.

I spent as much time as I did to give you a different look...etc, but I knew that there was a 99.9% chance it wouldn't work for what you wanted/needed. So no worries. I am sure it will get used somehow and someplace else.

:tup:

[motiveX]

<!--QuoteBegin-geofharries+Jan 7 2004, 11:18 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (geofharries @ Jan 7 2004, 11:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Palmer,

Here is my entry. I've taken some creative liberties with the colours, and thus you won't see much tan in the design....but there is blue! I also tightened up the navbar as well, condensing the main links into new categories that I feel are appropriate. If you'd like me to explain how I imagine this functioning, please let me know and I'll describe the new architecture idea I have.
[/b][/quote]
Nice work Geof.
:tup:

[Eagle]

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Yes...nice indeed Geof - I like it a lot!

Hey Boss, will these be going to a vote once you have decided the finalists? :)

[Palmer]

I've thought about going with a vote but I'm leaning more towards not. Sorry. I have a specific (very stubborn) idea for the look I want for this change in direction. I'm being very selfish with the decision.

[geofharries]

I'd be scared of a team-wide vote. The feedback and comment nightmare would continue for weeks on end :)

geof

[motiveX]

<!--QuoteBegin-geofharries+Jan 7 2004, 04:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (geofharries @ Jan 7 2004, 04:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'd be scared of a team-wide vote. The feedback and comment nightmare would continue for weeks on end :)

geof [/b][/quote]
Ya, not to mention turning into a popularity contest.

I was in Junior High a long time ago...and Geof was even LONGER.

:lol:

[geofharries]

Palmer,

As an addendum to my entry this morning, I'd like to mention that I envisioned the banner ads (120 x 120?) running down the left side of the inside pages. If you need them on the homepage, I can modify my design to accomodate the ads.

geof

[Palmer]

That won't be necessary to do. I can see where they would fit. 120x120 might be too big. I'm thinking along the lines of 120x60 and 88x31.

Thanks. I'll review your entry tonight.

[Zoe]

okies - here it is. Hope you like. :)

<img src='http://www.demexdesign.com/DO/DO_layout.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

[Palmer]

Thank you Zoe. As always, I will post comments this evening. :)

[Palmer]

Geof:
I'm glad you entered, I've been looking forward to it. I like a lot of the design elements about your entry but there are some problems with the layout in association with the CMS. I know it's boring but we need to have a fixed width left column, center area that stretches, fixed width right column, a header and a footer. They need to be symetrical.

So basically what would need to happen with your layout is the 3 red boxes would need to fit directly under the photo. The log in box could go under the left side menu to fill that empty space and then the content text could go under the red boxes.

I'd really like to have a 3 column layout in the middle section of the page in stead of a left column and a large middle section. My goal is to fit a lot of info in their first view of the home page and then have them click for more info. I'm an A.D.D. surfer. If I don't see what I'm looking for right off the bat I go to another site.

My vision is to have the visitor go to the home page and bam, within seconds, go to the area they need. Whether it's to see the contests, post a contest, apply for the Design Team or to look at the gallery. I'm thinking "snippets" of info here and there with preferably a small iconic graphic to lead them to click for more info. The challenge is to do this but still keep it clean and uncluttered. So far Tim's first design is my favorite because he has done this.

Here are some of your designs along the same layout...
http://www.kwota.com/portfolio/detail.php?clientID=32
http://www.kwota.com/portfolio/detail.php?clientID=30
http://www.kwota.com/portfolio/detail.php?clientID=27

I hope that helps, I'm sorry to be critical because I really like the design, just like I did Seans, it's just you were a little too freeformed, for the limitations of the CMS it needs to be more structured. Got it? :D

Zoe:
Looks good, you followed directions very well. Thank you very much for entering, I've always been a fan of your work. I don't have any revisions other than I would like to see some changes with what images to use for the header, (you don't have to do any of these until I narow down the finalists), something to make the center more interesting and a few small graphics (buttons, icons, check this out!, etc) Amazon, USAToday, B & N, CNN. They all have these little touches that draw your eye to them for an action.

Thanks again guys. Hope I'm not being too difficult :D

[geofharries]

Palmer,

Thanks for the positive feedback. I'll switch it to a 3-column layout and post the revised design in a little bit.

geof

[motiveX]

It's a shame to see a CMS dictate where this site progresses, but I understand where you are coming from...I just hate seeing some kick *** designs get ruined by a backend system is all.

:sick:

[Zoe]

Hi Palmer,

Thanks for the feedback.

Obviously I designed a site around the colours that I have picked up on you liking.
If I get a chance I will see if I can come up with a new design using my fav colours. I will add a few more icons and spice up the page a little more. I wanted to keep it limited so that it would load extra fast.

Will see what time I can find.... just for you! :)

[Palmer]

Obviously I designed a site around the colours that I have picked up on you liking.
If I get a chance I will see if I can come up with a new design using my fav colours. I will add a few more icons and spice up the page a little more.
Yeah, I know time is precious for you, I just visited your portfolio, holy crap you've been busy :D Good for you, you deserve it.

My color choices are only suggesstions. As proven time and time again, I don't have a clue when it comes to that :) You're the expert and whatever colors you want to try go right ahead. Same goes for everyone.

It's a shame to see a CMS dictate where this site progresses, but I understand where you are coming from
That's the nature of the beast. If you want to streamline your operation and make it template driven, you have a certain framework you have to go by. I know all the designs submitted will find a good home some day but not on a site with this particular content management system. The benefits of using it far outweigh the limitations it imposes as far as the design goes so I'm not too upset I have to either alter or pass on some very solid work.

[motiveX]

<!--QuoteBegin-Palmer+Jan 8 2004, 02:19 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Palmer @ Jan 8 2004, 02:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The benefits of using it far outweigh the limitations it imposes as far as the design goes so I'm not too upset I have to either alter or pass on some very solid work. [/b][/quote]
Out of curiosity what made you choose Mambo?

I wasn't really impressed with what I tested/read.

Something I missed or something you are doing differently?

:unsure:

[Zoe]

<!--QuoteBegin-motiveX+Jan 8 2004, 01:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (motiveX @ Jan 8 2004, 01:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Out of curiosity what made you choose Mambo?

I wasn't really impressed with what I tested/read.

Something I missed or something you are doing differently?

:unsure: [/b][/quote]
Because I wasn't fast enough with my CMS!!! lol

[Zoe]

Yeah, I know time is precious for you, I just visited your portfolio, holy crap you've been busy&nbsp; Good for you, you deserve it.


Thank you.

I have been soooo busy it is ridiculous. I even placed an advert to hire a web designer and it turned out to be more work for me to choose a designer than it was for me to do the work myself. Then when I did find a designer it turned out to take 3 times longer!!

It is soooo hard to trust other designers to do the job the way you want them to. maybe I am too fussy?

[motiveX]

<!--QuoteBegin-Demex+Jan 8 2004, 03:24 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Demex @ Jan 8 2004, 03:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-motiveX+Jan 8 2004, 01:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (motiveX @ Jan 8 2004, 01:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Out of curiosity what made you choose Mambo?

I wasn't really impressed with what I tested/read.

Something I missed or something you are doing differently?

:unsure: [/b][/quote]
Because I wasn't fast enough with my CMS!!! lol [/b][/quote]
Ummm, ok.

:wacko: :blink:

[Palmer]

<!--QuoteBegin-motiveX+Jan 8 2004, 02:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (motiveX @ Jan 8 2004, 02:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Out of curiosity what made you choose Mambo?

Something I missed or something you are doing differently?

:unsure: [/b][/quote]
Mainly because I'm familiar with how it works, I've used it on 3 sites. I like the group collaboration you can work out with assigning different levels of access and permissions. It has several add-on components that will be useful for additional ideas I have for the site. The Mambo support community is extremely helpful if there are any problems I have. I also think they have really clean, stream lined, bug-free and secure code. The developers really pride themselves in the work they do and the quality of it.

[geofharries]

You should have bought our CMS...not for sale, just had to brag because it's soo cool :)

http://www.adiyukon.com/capabilities/resources/22

Our latest module plug-in is an automatic MP3 or Quicktime database-driven SWF. Just upload any number of raw media file and it embeds it in a player instantly. Go to this page http://www.adiyukon.com/portfolio/ourwork/6/ and scroll down the left menu to the TV link (video). This page has the music player http://www.adiyukon.com/company/forfun/24/

Fun in geekland...

geof

[Palmer]

*Drool* That is sweet. I wish I could use that for the sites I design for my clients. It's looks much easier. You should market it. :tup:

I had a Flash player made that embeds itself on upload at the forums of Audio Outpost (http://www.audiooutpost.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=4&t=20&st=0). Too bad nobody ever uses that site :(

[hotnuts21]

Palmer,

I too have started to use Mambo for a few projects and I really like it too. It is lacking in quite a few areas but then I dont use it for sites that need anything its lacking. On the whole its a good bit of kit.

I have found someone who can put together templates etc from PSD's. I took the liberty of showing him Motivx template design and he really liked it, as well as telling me that he could turn it into a mambo template if you wanted to.


I like the look of the template - who evers going to get this one for is going to get a nice site... :-)

Only thing is there are two menu bars - That'd be hard to replicate for Mambo as it doesn't have that capability yet unless you hack the hell out of a MyMenu module.&nbsp; But I can get around that with hard-coded links.

So to answer your questions:

Possible?&nbsp; If you can get me the PSD file for it, I can convert it for Mambo - no problem.

Cost?&nbsp; It's a conversion, so until Jan 30th it's $165.&nbsp; After that, the prices go back to $220.&nbsp; :-)

Time frame?&nbsp; Usually done within 2 or 3 days, depending on how manmy other templates I am working on at the time.


I dont know if motivex design is one you want to go with or not, but I just thought I would share that anyones design does not have to be limited by mambo there are ways around it :)

Some great work being showcased here, DO will rock whichever one you choose.

[Palmer]

Yes, I know it's a possibility to make his Mambo friendly. I'm looking for a simpler design to make it easier on me.

[geofharries]

Palmer,

You may have noticed that I didn't include the signpost graphic in the DO logo for my design. I'd like to do a simple cartoonish re-creation of it in Illustrator and then use that. Not at all at the level that our logo designers would provide, but I think it would fit reasonably well into my template. Do I have your permission to do so?

geof

[Palmer]

Actually as I eluded to in a different thread of "having something up my sleeve", Raja has taken on that project of a much needed new logo for D.O.

I'm kind of intrigued by your offer though. It could be something I could use as one of those "mini graphics" I like so much. Feel free to include it in your revision and I will buy it after the contest if you don't win or use it in a different area of the layout if you do win.

[geofharries]

Please don't get your hopes up :)

I'm not all that hot at logos, especially compared to the likes of Raja and co., so this is more just to try a little experiment. I've only ever done 3 acceptable logos in my entire design life:

Directions Group: http://www.kwota.com/portfolio/detail.php?...ry=4&clientID=4 (http://www.kwota.com/portfolio/detail.php?pageNum_query=2&totalRows_query=4&clientID=4)

RCI: http://www.rci.ca/beta/

Vanderkooi Friesians: http://www.vanderkooifriesians.com/

geof

[Palmer]

Well it can't be any worse than what I could do. :D

[Tim]

<!--QuoteBegin-Palmer+Jan 7 2004, 11:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Palmer @ Jan 7 2004, 11:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->So far Tim's first design is my favorite because he has done this.[/b][/quote]
Oh Gee Goly. Thanks palmer. I am in school right now and decided to check how the contest is going. alot has happend since I checked last time. I've been busy with a few clients this past week.

Is my design good enough for your content management system? Sorry I havent posted any revisions yet, I will try to get that done today.

[Palmer]

Yes, yours will fit with the CMS. I'm also curious of the other idea you had for the template.

[moxsum]

I like geoffs the most so far. Tims is my second favorite.

[A1future]

Hi,

Pls chk

http://www.A1bpo.com/palmer/rev1

and let me have your feedback.

Regards

Srish

[Palmer]

Excellent revisions Srish :tup: I'll spend some time this evening reviewing them. Thank you very much!

[Mark]

Those are great Srish! I like yours the most. Nice clean and professional. :tup:
However I do prefer to "Log in" as opposed to "Lig in" oops :lol:

[Palmer]

Mark... are you going to join in on the fun? :tup:

[Mark]

Sure Palmer as long as you don't mind that I use Fireworks (I can export psd files from it) and DreamWeaver to code.

How much time do I have?

[Palmer]

Yes, that's what we figured out in the beginning with Geof. I can open .psd's in PSP so you'll need to export it. Thanks! :tup:

[geofharries]

Palmer,

You posted links to 3 designs at my website which use the column layout as requested. There is some consistency between those designs which makes me wonder if you'd like a bit more "eye candy" with my entry. It is moderately "flat" right now in terms of 3D effects or gradients. Would you prefer it if I added some of these effects, or am I on track already?

Just want to make you happy :)

geof

[Palmer]

Flat is good. I don't want it to look like something you could buy at a template site. The "eye candy" I'm interested in are the little icons and small buttons and mini graphics that you see at some of these sites...
http://www.cnn.com
http://www.amazon.com/
http://www.nba.com/

I'm not saying you can't use bevels and gradients but just in small areas like the headers to some of the featured items at NBA.com on the right (NBA Player Nation, Gatorade etc.)

This might be a tall order but I want people to link to our site because of how it looks, not what they can get here. We already have the latter :)

I'm thinking of showing all our skills on the home page. The first part is the template, Raja is graciously designing our new logo, then maybe some icons by Annia, a little illustrative work by Kimber and then a link to a mini Flash presentation of how our site operates by Mehmet (kalvinhobbes). I'm hoping to showcase the quality and skill level of our team.

Let's win an award! :tup:

[Palmer]

Srish, I have good news :) No more revisions are needed at this point. When I narrow it down to the finalists, I may ask for some then. These are my favorites. 1 being the most favorite...

1] http://www.a1bpo.com/palmer/rev1/3.jpg

2] http://www.a1bpo.com/palmer/rev1/f2.jpg

2] http://www.a1bpo.com/palmer/rev1/f1.jpg

3] http://www.a1bpo.com/palmer/rev1/2.jpg

Thank you very much for all your hard work. :)

[Eagle]

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Tend to agree with your first choice there, P but I think it needs a little amber/yellow to lift its spirits a bit...

:)

[Luc]

<img src='http://www.weevox.com/mockups/do.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

Hope you like it :)

[1on1]

Nice design luck, but I'm concerned with the text in the header - " top young graphic designers" unless 36 is considered to be young! :)

[Luc]

oh haha, I read it from somewhere here at DO.

[Michael]

Yes we are trying to steer away from the description 'Young' ;)

[Tim]

Hi Palmer,

I have finally found time to make some revisions and finish a new design I started. The revisions I made in the first design include darkening of the top image, navigation on top right with different colors, image buttons for login/search, arrows next to learn more.

- Preview Revisions (http://www.parallelvision.net/Clients/Design.Outpost/2_1.jpg)

The new layout design I made is a little more graphics but not to much. I used the colors you recomended(blue,tan) and made some teasers as well. I also used your current logo as a navigation element(where to?). I made the layout look as if it doesnt use mombo but in reality it can.

- Main Section (http://www.parallelvision.net/Clients/Design.Outpost/3_1.jpg)
- Sub-Section (http://www.parallelvision.net/Clients/Design.Outpost/3_2.jpg)

Hope you like them :D

Thanks,
Tim

[Eagle]

*
Hey Tim...the prize amounts are much more realistic on those mock-ups! :tup: :lol:
*

[Palmer]

Thanks Luc and Tim. Very nice both of you :tup: Reviews posted this evening.

[Tim]

Thanks Palmer and Eagle. Ill chack back here later.

[annia]

<!--QuoteBegin-Palmer+Jan 9 2004, 10:46 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Palmer @ Jan 9 2004, 10:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm thinking of showing all our skills on the home page. The first part is the template, Raja is graciously designing our new logo, then maybe some icons by Annia, a little illustrative work by Kimber and then a link to a mini Flash presentation of how our site operates by Mehmet (kalvinhobbes). I'm hoping to showcase the quality and skill level of our team.

Let's win an award! :tup: [/b][/quote]
:tup: thats how good teamwork should be! if everything works out this will become a masterpiece :tup: you can count on me there, palmer :)

[Palmer]

Thanks Annia :)

[geofharries]

Palmer,

I will have revisions to you today or tomorrow. I was called last night to judge a local snowboard competion at the ski resort this morning. Sorry for the delay!

geof

[Palmer]

I see you have your priorities straight :D Looking forward to the update.

[geofharries]

Of course I have my priorities straight....

1) Fun, snow, 40 foot gap jumps, double kink handrails, hot coffee & fresh air
2) Design Outpost

See? :)

Despite my distractions, I did manage to make a fair amount of changes to my template that I hope you'll like. You made some great suggestions, and I've put them into play here.

geof

<img src='http://www.kwota.com/designoutpost/homepage_3column.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

[motiveX]

<!--QuoteBegin-geofharries+Jan 10 2004, 10:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (geofharries @ Jan 10 2004, 10:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Of course I have my priorities straight....

1) Fun, snow, 40 foot gap jumps, double kink handrails, hot coffee & fresh air
2) Design Outpost

See? :)

Despite my distractions, I did manage to make a fair amount of changes to my template that I hope you'll like. You made some great suggestions, and I've put them into play here.

geof

[/b][/quote]
I really like this Geof.

Great job!

:tup:

[geofharries]

Thanks Sean.

geof

[Palmer]

Thanks for the new entries. In order of their appearance...

Luc
Looking good as far as the layout goes but the colors seem a little bland and drab. I think it needs a little spicing up with some brighter, cheary shades. The header is too large, it can be cut in half height wise. The header is going to be seen on every page because it is part of the template the site uses. The problem I'm seeing is you need to scroll down read the rest of the content.

The green on the right is not working for me either. Sorry :( Obviously that is something I can change myself but I wanted you to know. The overall look is almost too corporate. Almost like a site for a lawyer or stock broker.

I know it sounds like I hate it but I don't. I think a change in colors will help it tremendously. I'd like you to go over my first post and read the description of what I'm looking for as far as the colors and the sites I like the look of.

Tim
Revision: Looks good. I may have some changes towards the end.

New Entry: Home page: Nice, clean and airy. Good job. Sorry to disagree with you but the home page won't work with Mambo, specifically the sign post area :( The photo can be used in the design but the way it works is the center is pretty much the only part that changes on every page. The top, bottom, right and left remain the same.

The subsection is great as far as the colors, header and layout goes. Just one note. It seems like it needs something in the middle. Maybe an image at the top above the text.

No revisions are necessary at this point. Thanks for another version to consider. :)

Geof
Looks good. The layout is exactly what we need for the new site. I don't have anything I would like changed at this point. I'll let you know towards the end if I'd like some revisions. Thanks very much. :sideways:

[Luc]

Luc
Looking good as far as the layout goes but the colors seem a little bland and drab. I think it needs a little spicing up with some brighter, cheary shades. The header is too large, it can be cut in half height wise. The header is going to be seen on every page because it is part of the template the site uses. The problem I'm seeing is you need to scroll down read the rest of the content.


Thank you for the feedback! I was trying to get away from the typical colors of the web nowadays :P I'll post the revision a little later.

[geofharries]

Palmer,

Thanks for the compliments. Looking forward to the final result...

geof

[Luc]

How about this?
<img src='http://www.weevox.com/mockups/do2.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

[Luc]

And another one..
<img src='http://www.weevox.com/mockups/dob.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

or
<img src='http://www.weevox.com/mockups/dob2.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

[Tim]

Palmer,

Thanks for commenting on my designs. I thought for sure that mombo would be able to handle the second design I made :blink:. I have uploaded an image that shows the table cells outlined in red and where the images would be in blue. Look at that and tell me if it is possible, if not I can make some changes to the design or if you dont really like the design I can just scrap it. :squint:

View Image (http://www.parallelvision.net/Clients/Design.Outpost/mombo.jpg)

[Palmer]

Thanks Luc, looking better. I'll comment later.

Tim, maybe I wasn't clear. Don't scrap the idea. It's very solid. I like the new design. The interior page would work perfect, it's the home page that won't.

The reason is every page will have the same thing on the left. You aren't able to have the sign post on the home page and then not have it on the interor pages. They will all be the same. Understand?

[Tim]

Palmer,

Sorry, I understand now. I forgot that CM Systems only use 1 template for all sections. :o That was was my fault for not researching before I designed that layout.

[Luc]

Sorry, I can't help it! :D Here's another one.
<img src='http://www.weevox.com/mockups/dob3.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
I just change the look of the highlights below.

[Palmer]

Thanks Luc, I'll give more detailed comments tonight but just a note that the layout is right on the money. The colors are getting better, still a little like a rainy day though in some areas. Maybe the gray behind the photo and all the other grays need to go. Either white or a more cheery color, pastels are good. Zoe has a real knack for color choices. Maybe you can find inspiration from their portfolios... http://www.demexdesign.com

Another good site for inspiration is Lunar Media...
http://www.lunarmedia.net

Thanks again :)

[Zoe]

Hey Palmer,

Which designs from my site should I get inspiration from for your design? Is the template I entered too bland?

[Palmer]

I was saying how I really like the color combinations you use, not necessarily to copy your color schemes, just to see how you do what you do. You really have a neat way of combining colors to match the type of business the company does. I envy your eye. There wasn't a particular design I had in mind but I'll go check real quick to see which color schemes are my favorite.

Be right back...

[Palmer]

Here are some of my favorites as far as colors go. Beveled things can be used sparingly. I like when there are a lot of lighter colors and then a dark color like dark blue is used to bring your attention to something important.

http://www.demexdesign.com/images/sites/lookthru_L.jpg
http://www.demexdesign.com/images/sites/lo..._partners_L.jpg (http://www.demexdesign.com/images/sites/lookthru_partners_L.jpg)
http://www.demexdesign.com/images/sites/shop_nav_L.jpg
http://www.demexdesign.com/images/sites/co...otterweb2_L.jpg (http://www.demexdesign.com/images/sites/cotterweb2_L.jpg)
http://www.demexdesign.com/images/sites/company_L.jpg

So far a lot of the designs have used gray which is fine, but the gray that was chosen was too dark. I like a gray that's almost white like EFEFEF. Light blue like D1E1FF is good too. The tan that I mentioned probably would be better described as beige (F1F0E3). The greens I've seen are yet again a little too dark or too pea soup looking. I like the greens that are light like D9F4D6 or if you want a darker green, used sparingly, 19F523 is nice. For a dark blue (once again used sparingly) 00049C is good. In addition, feel free to use more than 2 or 3 colors 4, 5, or 6, is fine too.

I hope this was helpful :)

[Zoe]

thanks Palmer - I think this will assist a lot of us. :)

[Luc]

<!--QuoteBegin-Palmer+Jan 11 2004, 01:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Palmer @ Jan 11 2004, 01:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Thanks Luc, I'll give more detailed comments tonight but just a note that the layout is right on the money. The colors are getting better, still a little like a rainy day though in some areas. Maybe the gray behind the photo and all the other grays need to go. Either white or a more cheery color, pastels are good. Zoe has a real knack for color choices. Maybe you can find inspiration from their portfolios... http://www.demexdesign.com

Another good site for inspiration is Lunar Media...
http://www.lunarmedia.net

Thanks again :) [/b][/quote]
Thanks for the feedback. May I know which of the 3 options would you like me to continue?

[Palmer]

#3 is my favorite of the new ones. The one with the cut corners.

Thanks :)

[Luc]

<!--QuoteBegin-Palmer+Jan 12 2004, 01:03 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Palmer @ Jan 12 2004, 01:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> #3 is my favorite of the new ones. The one with the cut corners.

Thanks :) [/b][/quote]
How about the highlights for Competitions,Post a contest, Join the team? Which do you prefer, the red or blue one?

[Palmer]

I like the blue. Red is not a calming color.

[Luc]

I'm having a hard time dealing with the colors you like. Must be because of age gap? :D

<img src='http://www.weevox.com/mockups/fdo.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

I can't find the right image tz Image2 (http://www.weevox.com/mockups/fdo2.jpg)

[Michael]

I find this site helpful for coming up with colour schemes :)

http://color.twysted.net/

[Palmer]

Much better Luc. :tup: Comments later...

Thanks :)

[Tim]

Hi Palmer,

I keep coming up with ideas for the new DO design. Take a look at this one. I used a eye catching blue that will pull the visitor to the navigation making it easier to find there way around the site. I was thinking about adding a slogan in the header but I didnt know what you would want it to be. Tell me what you think.

[Palmer]

You keep outdoing yourself. Very nice Tim. :tup: I'm glad this project has inspired your creativity.

I am behind a day on my comments but I promise to catch up tonight.

[Mark]

Wow Tim! That is very nice! :tup:
And best part is most of us believe were gods in the graphic world.
If we were alowed to vote... this certainly would be my pick. ;)

[Tim]

Thanks Mark! :blush:. I know we have Godly characteristics and I am proud of it. Glad you like the design.

[Eagle]

I like Geof's, it looks fresh, modern and, most importnatly, doesn't look like a template... B)

http://www.designoutpost.com/forums/?showt...indpost&p=39545 (http://www.designoutpost.com/forums/?showtopic=2378&view=findpost&p=39545) :tup:
*

[Palmer]

I think I will remove the comments from the designers who are in the contest. I don't think it's fair to have those in the thread. Not like it will sway my opinion or anything :D

[Palmer]

<!--QuoteBegin-Luc+Jan 12 2004, 05:04 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Luc @ Jan 12 2004, 05:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm having a hard time dealing with the colors you like. Must be because of age gap? :D [/b][/quote]
Luc

Hey now. Respect your elders <_< :)

They kept getting better as you developed the concept and the last one with the pretty picture of the mountains was the best one...
http://www.weevox.com/mockups/fdo2.jpg

You do not have to make any revisions at this point but I will let you know what I think. :)

I like a lot of what you've done, the only things I would change if it was chosen as the winner would be the gray on the left and right. In addition I would like real buttons for the log in and submit not css buttons.

Tim
http://www.designoutpost.com/forums/upload...-1073951304.jpg (http://www.designoutpost.com/forums/uploads/post-6-1073951304.jpg)
I do like this design very much. The colors are very nice although I think I would prefer a color closer to blue over purple. Unfortunately I think the image would need to be changed. As much as I would like to have this site reflect my beliefs and Christian faith, I think that particular image may make us look more like a site for a church than for a place to get graphic design work done. (hoping I don't get struck by lightning for saying that) :innocent: Don't get me wrong, it's beautiful. You did a wonderful job on it. It just might be a little too "in your face" for some people.

You could either use something non-descript like a nature shot or maybe somebody working on a computer. Feel free to browse Photos.com (http://www.photos.com) and let me know if you want me to download any images you would like to use for your mock up or you could just use the watermarked one and you can replace it if you win with the non-watermarked one.

Thank you very much for the effort you've put forth so far. You've gone above and beyond my expectations. I appreciate the time you've spent on this project.

[rlevant]

Hi Palmer

Dreaming and imagination and vision are not limited to religious people
(Though I believe we do it better ;-))

Clouds often represent High Goals, High Quality imagination

Just want to say I think that template ROCKS and does not convey a christian site..or even a spiritual site..but one that reaches up for the sky;-)

I cannot imagine that turning off or seeming in your face religion..no less in your face Christian to anyone. And I AM sensitive to in your face Christian as my faith is often unwelcome in such inyour face sort of Christian circles

(back to lurking in thread)

[Palmer]

It wasn't the clouds or the rocks it was the "lifting of the hands" which led to my comments. Maybe it's because of my religion, but I can't think of any other reason he would be doing that than to praise God. I guess if he had on a referee uniform it might change the meaning to me :D

[motiveX]

<!--QuoteBegin-Palmer+Jan 13 2004, 02:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Palmer @ Jan 13 2004, 02:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It wasn't the clouds or the rocks it was the "lifting of the hands" which led to my comments. Maybe it's because of my religion, but I can't think of any other reason he would be doing that than to praise God. I guess if he had on a referee uniform it might change the meaning to me :D [/b][/quote]
^_^

[Trifolic]

<!--QuoteBegin-Palmer+Jan 13 2004, 12:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Palmer @ Jan 13 2004, 12:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> but I can't think of any other reason he would be doing that than to praise God.

[/b][/quote]
Maybe he just won the $162 million lotto in ohio? (sorry couldn't resist)
:lol:

[Zoe]

hmm... nature shots... now that is up my alley.

I will work on another design. :)

[Hypnosis]

Hey everyone!

Big BRAVO to the team, I think you all know the spirit of DO very well and I can see that in your designs. I really want to say this...: WOW, THESE ARE AWSOME DESIGNS!!! Keep it rolling guys :tup:

Your buddy,

Hyp!

PS: Palmer, its gonna be real hard to choose man! ;)

[Luc]

<!--QuoteBegin-Palmer+Jan 13 2004, 12:13 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Palmer @ Jan 13 2004, 12:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Luc

Hey now. Respect your elders <_< :)

They kept getting better as you developed the concept and the last one with the pretty picture of the mountains was the best one...
http://www.weevox.com/mockups/fdo2.jpg

You do not have to make any revisions at this point but I will let you know what I think. :)

I like a lot of what you've done, the only things I would change if it was chosen as the winner would be the gray on the left and right. In addition I would like real buttons for the log in and submit not css buttons. [/b][/quote]
:lol: Alright!

[Zoe]

I have a new design - but ssshhhh... because I should have been a good girl and done some other work. (will just have to knock off a few hours of sleep) :)

Hope you like :)

<img src='http://www.demexdesign.com/DO/DO_layout2.png' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

[Palmer]

:tup:

[Tim]

Checking up on the contest and found out that I was a religious designer :blink: . I never knew that. I learn something new everyday! :P

I really meant for that image to represent the client as if "I Found something worth my money" or "Who knew it was that easy" etc..

I will change the image, most likely with a person on a computer or if I go with a nature shot, it will be of hills in the clouds or something.

Glad to hear that some of you like the design, I will try to make it better.

[Palmer]

Thanks brother Tim :D

[Palmer]

By the way, I used the same photo (or one in the series from that particular stock photo site) for this contest (http://www.designoutpost.com/forums/?showtopic=939&view=findpost&p=19211) and this one. (http://www.designoutpost.com/forums/?showtopic=282&view=findpost&p=2867) :)

[Tim]

<!--QuoteBegin-Palmer+Jan 13 2004, 02:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Palmer @ Jan 13 2004, 02:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Thanks brother Tim :D[/b][/quote]
Silly Palmer :lol2:

Change is good. Yes.. No?

[Brent]

Zoe,

Great design as always.
I agree with Palmer your color selection is always right on target.

I have a contest ending tomorrow in the resellers forum if you feel like knocking off a few MORE hours of sleep. :lol:

Brent

[Tim]

<!--QuoteBegin-Palmer+Jan 13 2004, 03:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Palmer @ Jan 13 2004, 03:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> By the way, I used the same photo (or one in the series from that particular stock photo site) for this contest (http://www.designoutpost.com/forums/?showtopic=939&view=findpost&p=19211) and this one. (http://www.designoutpost.com/forums/?showtopic=282&view=findpost&p=2867) :) [/b][/quote]
Great minds pick the same photos but dont think alike. By the way, the photo I have is the only in its series (Photodisc Volume 117)

[Palmer]

Yes Tim, the change is good. I'm hoping to use a different photo for each page of the site in that area of the layout. I'm assuming the guy and the girl is on a layer so I can use the blue squares as a back ground and paste a different image on top of the blue squares?

Good job. :)

Zoe: I'll have detailed comments for you tonight, excellent work on your part too. Thanks for sacrificing your sleep for the cause :zzz:

[Tim]

Yes Palmer,

The people are in a different layer in PSP. I also kept the "religious photo" in a hidden layer as well.

[Zoe]

<!--QuoteBegin-Brent+Jan 13 2004, 03:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Brent @ Jan 13 2004, 03:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Zoe,

Great design as always.
I agree with Palmer your color selection is always right on target.

I have a contest ending tomorrow in the resellers forum if you feel like knocking off a few MORE hours of sleep. :lol:

Brent [/b][/quote]
Thanks Brent :)

Sry - missed your message earlier.

[Palmer]

Because there are still people working on entries, I will extend the deadline for new submissions until this Monday. :palmer:

[marengo]

I am working on my entry. Sorry for delay, guys!
Thanks,
Nat

[geofharries]

Palmer,

Just wanted to let you know that with my design, I am willing to add a few more touches to it until you are happy...should you want more details on buttons, forms, 'cause I know you love the little stuff :)

geof

[Palmer]

I'm expecting an entry from Nat, Adil, and Mark. When they have entered I will narrow it down to the finalists. At that point I will ask for the revisions from the finalists. If your entry is one of the finalists, that's one thing I would ask you to do.

[marengo]

Hello,

this is my simple template. If you like it I will finish it ... and if I have to fix something I will do it :) Let me know if I am on the righr track.

Thanks,
Nat

p.s. Top icons will be done with rollover.

[Palmer]

:notworthy: :winkiss: :clap: :tup: :wee: :flowers: :wub:

Did that make sense? :D

[marengo]

:wub: :wub: snif snif :D

Ok, I will draw additional icons tomorrow.
Happy you like it.

Nat

[Michael]

Love the icons Nat :tup:

[1on1]

Are you still taking new entries ?

[Trifolic]

OMG! Its Design Outpost XP!! :tup: Great job..

[marengo]

Thanks guys! :wub:

This is my new gfx hobby: icons :tup:

Edit: We are better then XP :lol:

[Palmer]

<!--QuoteBegin-1on1+Jan 17 2004, 04:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (1on1 @ Jan 17 2004, 04:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Are you still taking new entries ? [/b][/quote]
Yes I am. :)

[motiveX]

<!--QuoteBegin-Palmer+Jan 17 2004, 07:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Palmer @ Jan 17 2004, 07:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yes I am. :) [/b][/quote]
This might go on FOR EVEERRRRRRRRRRRRRR *says in Sandlot voice*

[1on1]

:-

[Palmer]

Thanks Martin, I'll probably be narrowing down the finalists tonight.

Sean: I wanted to give a chance to the others that said they wanted to enter.

[elements]

I've been working on it today and should have it posted later tonight, if not then definitely mid-tomorrow :)

[Mark]

I'll have mine up by tomorrow morning (early am) as well Palmer.

[Palmer]

Thanks for the update guys. :)

[Mark]

Here you go Palmer! :D

Please note that I'm not suggesting that the logo look like this. I know Raja is creating one for you, but I just wanted to show that the logo will be different.

Cheers
Mark

[Palmer]

Thank you Mark, looks very nice. I'll wait to post comments until all the entries are in. :) Is it possible to save it at a higher quality jpg or png? There are some ugly artifacts. If not, not a big deal.

[elements]

Well, here's my take at it :)
Hope you like.

<img src='http://dilicious.ca/outpost/do_v1.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

[marengo]

Hello Palmer,

I'm really sorry, but I was busy :unsure: so, I have added not too much. If you will choose my template as a winner I will make modifications if needed and I will provide 2 additional icons (for "featured designer" and "gallerry") .

Thanks,
Nat

[Eirik]

Sweet Lord, that's a lot of great designs! Will the contributions not selected as the winning one be availble for purchase in any way?

[Mark]

<!--QuoteBegin-Palmer+Jan 19 2004, 12:42 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Palmer @ Jan 19 2004, 12:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Is it possible to save it at a higher quality jpg or png? There are some ugly artifacts. If not, not a big deal. [/b][/quote]
Yah, some images look better as a jpg and some as a gif.
I sliced them so you can get a better idea. The text of course will look better once it's real text as upposed to a gif file.

Anyway please go HERE (http://www.markbeaudry.com/do/doweb.HTML) to view.
Please note that it is designed to streched the entire width of the page.

[Michael]

<!--QuoteBegin-elements+Jan 19 2004, 10:09 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (elements @ Jan 19 2004, 10:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well, here's my take at it :)
Hope you like.

[/b][/quote]
Adil, I've been inundated with female admirers since you put that template up.. :lol2:

[1on1]

I made a few changes which can be seen in the earlier post.

[geofharries]

Eirik,

Mine will be for sale if it doesn't win...now what colour is your logo? :)

geof

[designmarket]

LOL.. yes some great enteries here
good stuff!

[Palmer]

I might be buying more than one but yes, if you contact the designer who made the mock-up, I'm sure they will be willing to sell theirs if I haven't already offered to buy it. :)

Thanks Adil, Mark and Marengo for the updates/new entries. I'll be looking them over and narrowing things down throughout the day.

We are now closed to new entries, I really appreciate all the great choices I have. Thanks everyone for the superb effort. You've all gone above and beyond what I expected. I appreciate your dedication to making the new site look great. :tup:

[elements]

<!--QuoteBegin-2square+Jan 19 2004, 08:31 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (2square @ Jan 19 2004, 08:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-elements+Jan 19 2004, 10:09 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (elements @ Jan 19 2004, 10:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well, here's my take at it :)
Hope you like.

[/b][/quote]
Adil, I've been inundated with female admirers since you put that template up.. :lol2: [/b][/quote]
:D

[Palmer]

What have I done! This is going to be impossible to narrrow these down :wall: Wow you guys are great. What a nice problem to have :)

[Mike]

Awesome entries guys :)

Palmer, I doubt you'll have any hair left after trying to pick a winner ;)

[Mark]

<!--QuoteBegin-naramation+Jan 19 2004, 01:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (naramation @ Jan 19 2004, 01:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Palmer, I doubt you'll have any hair left after trying to pick a winner ;) [/b][/quote]
Whatever you pull out, save it for me! I could use a transplant! ;)

[geofharries]

This is painful...waiting for the big review and possible rejection letter from our esteemed leader :flowers:

geof

[Palmer]

It will be this evening, probably late, when I will announce the finalists.

[moxsum]

* sites on couch infront of comp with popcorn, refreshing every 5 seconds *

[rlevant]

Me too

I wanna go after certain one I don't think he will pick:)

Actually there are two but not sure what I woyuld DO with Sean's ;-)

[Palmer]

Not to drag this on any longer but your leader has the flu :rip: I'm going to call it an early night for a change and get some much needed rest.

Sorry :zzz:

[Mike]

Buckleys!

[Michael]

<!--QuoteBegin-Palmer+Jan 20 2004, 04:47 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Palmer @ Jan 20 2004, 04:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Not to drag this on any longer but your leader has the flu :rip: I'm going to call it an early night for a change and get some much needed rest.

Sorry :zzz: [/b][/quote]
Wimp :P

[designmarket]

I hope you are feeling better, but I really think that was a delaying tactic and your task is too big for you! LOL :tup:
Looking forward to the next round here.. :)

[Palmer]

Feeling a little better today so I will be going through the entries and narrowing it down to around 5 finalists. It will be very difficult for sure.

[elements]

:blink:

[geofharries]

I feel like I am on some bad reality show, waiting for the big vote off of design outpost island :squint:

geof

[Mark]

<!--QuoteBegin-geofharries+Jan 20 2004, 09:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (geofharries @ Jan 20 2004, 09:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I feel like I am on some bad reality show, waiting for the big vote off of design outpost island :squint:

geof [/b][/quote]
LMFAO :lol:

[Palmer]

Catching up on the 9:30-11:00 posts and then I will go through the whole thread and pick the finalists.

[rlevant]

Man

He is torturing you guys.

and the rest of us too :lol:

Notice the who is online screen is full each time Palmer Posts...
And guess where everyone is?

:rolleyes:

[Palmer]

First of all, thank you all for entering. I know you hear that all the time and it may lose it's effect over time, but I truly do appreciate all the effort everyone has put forth for this project. It really shows how much this place means to you and you care about how it will look in its new form.

Little did I know a year ago that the original design was going to be seen so much. If I knew that I probably would of spent more time on it :D Well you guys did. I can't imagine how much time collectively was spent designing for this new direction the Design Outpost is taking.

Ok, enough with that mushy stuff...

I had a few criterion (criteria?) when I was narrowing down the entries and holy cow what a lot of entries there were. All of them very nice in their own right and I'm sure will find good homes in the future.

As I eluded to in one of the many posts in this thread, I want people to link to us for how the site looks, in addition to what they can get here. I want it to win awards for the design. I think it is very important for a site that offers graphic design as it's main service, to put on a very stellar image from the moment the visitor hits the home page.

So these are the points I used when narrowing it down...
1) Is it unique. Have I ever seen a site that looked like similar.
2) Will it work well with the content management system
3) Does it have those little extras I like. (mini buttons, icons, small graphics)
4) Are the colors inviting, calming, pleasant, cheerful. You know, just like us! :D