Logo for Church Ministry *Project Over*

[makinprogress412]

(Admin code added by Palmer - C3034043S)

$25 simple logo contest for existing ministry in our church.

Our church offers, what we call, "community groups" throughout our community during the week. These are small groups of people (6-20) who meet in homes for building deeper freindships and learning more about God and the Bible. We are looking to create a logo to help identify with this ministry on our website and in print. Any help you can provide would be appreciated.

Thanks,
David
NCC

For more info on Community Groups please visit our website:
www.new-community.org/cgroups.htm (http://www.new-community.org/cgroups.htm)

Also, visit our other contests:
web template contest (http://www.designoutpost.com/forums/?showtopic=2542)
NCC contest for new ministry logo - RAK ministry (http://www.designoutpost.com/forums/?showtopic=2777)

[makinprogress412]

Is there anyone working on this idea but haven't posted yet? Please!

[MOZ]

I have an idea that I'll work up and post on Thursday afternoon
MOZ

Isaiah 40:31

[Just J]

I'm working on it, just not coming up with as much as I'd like. Hope to have something for you by tonight.

Jason

[makinprogress412]

Great, thanks guys!

[Just J]

David,
I'm not sure if any of these are in the direction you want to go. I tried to use my "little guy" again in hopes to find him a home. :rolleyes:
Let me know what you think.

Jason

[Mowling]

:tup: I like those Jason

[Just J]

Thank you VERY much M@!!! :blush:

[MOZ]

Hello
I promised that I would get you a design and here it is

It's a little later than I said :rolleyes:

Very simple idea...sometime less is more

MOZ

[makinprogress412]

Thanks for your entries.

Moz - I don't think you have a feel for the type of church we are. It's a little too churchy for us with the traditional looking Bible and cross and hands. It needs to be more corporate looking and creative.

See our web template contest to help or our website for description of our church.

Blackspot - I don't know if these are doing anything for us but thank you. It's just text and a box. Maybe letters "CG" in a logo form.

I need to see some more creativity. Thanks!

DB

[Just J]

I will try and work on something more for you tonight now that I know you want "more" (wasn't real sure hence the simple designs). You didn't mention the "people cross" in the circle. Did you not notice it or just not like it?
Do you have a preference of colors or amount of colors? The more info the better. In the meantime, I will read your template contest to see if I can get a better understanding of what you are looking for.

Jason

[MOZ]

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Moz - I don't think you have a feel for the type of church we are. It's a little too churchy for us with the traditional looking Bible and cross and hands. It needs to be more corporate looking and creative. [/b][/quote]
Will look at the web site and redo. You mentioned Bible , Cross and "Hands" I don't have any hands in my design??? And the house structure was a home. Do you like that idea if I corporate it up some? PLMK
MOZ

[makinprogress412]

You're right, no hands - sorry - I have 5 contests going right now and am getting confused. A home would be cool but it would have to be abstract attractive.

[Taldo]

:) hi

[makinprogress412]

Taldo - O.K. a little better. Thanks Taldo for moving this in a better direction. It's simple but it us totally text. I like how you did a little bit more creativity with the "RAK" ministry in my other contest. It was graphic and text but not too crazy and it was two color. If we are going to try to use the CG there needs to be some more movement and dimension. Not just block letters connected. Looks like "Garry Harvey" Air Conditioning Co., Inc. You've won with me before so I'm sure you'll come up with something swell - good to hear from you again.
David

Blackspot - no, I didn't mention the cross people because didn't like it much. Yes, two color look great. Not more, and probably not less.

I'll try to find some logos on the web that might appeal to me to help you out in understnding for what I might be looking. It helps if I know and right now it's a "know it when I see it" kind of thing.

Thanks
DB

[makinprogress412]

Carol - you have an advantage - I now remember you did our NCC logo which we are using. Maybe you can tie all these in somehow. Just a thought.

[Just J]

Tried something with the "CG". Also gave it a bit of life and kept it 2 colors (the same colors I was using before so I hope you like them).

Jason

[Taldo]

here is another idea..

[cursal]

Here is my go at this,


<img src='http://www.deluxebanners.com/contests/cg_logo.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />



Regards,
--Brian

[makinprogress412]

nothing really jump out at us yet. it doesn't need to posess to much symbolism, just a nice looking 'icon' more than a logo.

[Taldo]

:)

[graphxguy]

Dave,
Here's my entry. The church is represented by the circle with the houses in the community represented by the squares. I noticed on your site you use yellows for this page so if you'd like to see it in those colors let me know.

Looking forward to your comments.

Thanks.

[makinprogress412]

Stephen - this look totally reminded of something and may help move this in the right direction. Community groups are part of a process in our church of what we call "moving people around the bases" uses the baseball diamond as a metaphor. so, your diamond approach is good. C-groups are encouraged at 1st based, expected at 2nd base and modeled at 3rd base (nice way of saying required). So something with this process in mind would be could, including the baseball diamond feel with the process - maybe the C in community can be a swoosh around the bases counterclockwise - for the process - ??? Let's see what these entries inspire - just let's not get too literal with pics - I like the diamonds that look like a corporate logo feel.
Thanks
Dave

[graphxguy]

um......okay.

So what would you like me to do revision wise? Are you looking for the "C" to be swooshed?

[graphxguy]

Dave,

Something like this......................maybe?


Let me know.

[cursal]

Hello David,

The information about the "baseball metaphor" helps understand how the group fuctions in addition to what they do.

Here is the latest from me:


<img src='http://www.deluxebanners.com/contests/cg_logo3.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />



Your feedback and input is always of great help :)
--Brian

[MOZ]

MOZ is back with another attempt

after seeing the way you want this to go
how about this can be TWEAKED!!!

color/angle ???
PLMK

[Bethie]

My turn! :)

Beth

[makinprogress412]

Beth - try to read the thread to see where this thing has progressed. Steve and Moz are on to something.

Steve - allright, the concept I like but the look is buggin my eyes out. I'm going to attempt to communicate some changes -

the swoosh "C" and bases are clashing by being so connected. How about making the swoosh C stand normal like a letter with the words community groups just like they are parallel from the center of the C. rotate the diamonds/bases left to a different angle - wow, does any of that make sense (I'll try to manipulate it or draw you something to explain and post it)


Moz - the bright colors on black are hurtng my eyes to look at - along with the giant grid of squares - too busy. we need to do something with the baseball diamond look and the words. I almost like your CG letters ( a little too elongated and thin) but that's not enough to communicate "community groups" - I'm sure we need it all spelled out as well. thanks.

[makinprogress412]

Steve- I tried to draw something but it was impossible - I might just have to draw it out and scan it or something - ugh. I like the baseball diamond approach but maybe just one diamond - I like the feel of what you've put up it just needs some tweeking though.
Thanks
Dave

[Just J]

One more shot, this time with the diamond. I tried to make it different, and within the diamond "icon" lies a few hidden meanings:
-Baseball Diamond
-"group" of diamonds
-cross
-"c" and "g" (you have to look pretty close for that one :blink: )
I hope you see it, I hope you like it.
Let me know what you think.

Jason

[Mowling]

Dave...here is a quick concept


thanks,
M@

[makinprogress412]

Taldo - that looks nice - didn't see it before - just showed up today???

Steve - better explanation on what I was looking for from you: instead of four diamonds as the bases - just use one diamond representing the hole infield and use the swoosh C that you used but have it parallel to the horizon - level - that is, and have the words "community group" parallel as well coming out of the middle of the C - see pic - sorry I can't upload it - I jus got a new computer on Friday and don't have all my software installed yet. I think the very rough sketch attached will help a little I hope.
Dave

[graphxguy]

Dave,
Here it is. I put some perspective on the "field" to give it some more dimension.

Let me know what you think.

Thanks.

In Christ Alone,

Stephen

[makinprogress412]

Steve,
Not quite grabbing us with the one large diamond and extra large base sized. First thing that sticks out is the green "cross" (don't know if that was intentional) and the bases are too big (don't really like those). Don't laugh at this next pic, but I think I'd like to go back closer to the first diamond look but instead of eight, only four with with the words included "community groups" somewhere and the swoosh, but can the green be a "C" and the blue be a "G" - make sense?? The swoosh here is awful b/c I can't rotate it at all - it should be level which I can't get and the words back in it as well. See what you can do.

see this pic for rough layout idea: (best I can do in paint, ugh!)

[graphxguy]

-Dave
Here are some revisions based on your comments and feedback.

Let me know what you think.

Thanks.

[makinprogress412]

:tup: **WINNER** :tup: **Winner** :tup: **WINNER** :tup: **Winner** :tup:
Steve - I think I like this one best. But what do you think about rotating the the swooshes counterclockwise a bit until the blue in the G swoosh begins to almost underline the blue "groups" word? Also, bring the words a little closer to the diamonds to elimate so much white space. Another thought as I'm looking at it closer - what if the diamond was on the right of the words? Play with it a little, but you win and we can finalize this until it's perfect!
Thanks,
Dave

[cursal]

Way to Go Steve :tup:

--Brian

[graphxguy]

Thanks, Dave. And to you too, Cursal. It's such a pleasure working for the kingdom.

Palmer, I guess the rest of this will be taken care of in the Revisions forum?

[Palmer]

Yes, I'll move this to the revisions forum.

Congrats :clap:

[makinprogress412]

Steve, I know I'm keeping you real busy here, but have you had a chance to revise this logo yet. LMK - it will go in the web template you are making. We are more than ready to get that up and running too.
Dave

[graphxguy]

Dave,
Here are the revisions based on your comments.

Will you need me to assing PMS callouts to the colors I used or would you prefer to just do it yourself when you go to have this logo printed on stuff at your print vendor?

Looking forward to your comments and suggestions.

Thanks.

[makinprogress412]

Steve- thanks, I think I like #1 the best as far as looks. The others look too far apart and lack continuity. What do you think from a design standpoint? I also like #3 without the diamond at all (#3-4 the diamond just sticks out there too much). What do you think of making the diamond a big watermark behind the whole logo - would that even work or look right? LMK what you think.
Dave

p.s. - pray for me, I've got to teach this weekend in our adult service and I've been spending 2 hours a day on DO giving feedback to my 5 contest. ugh.

btw - your web changes were dynamic.

[makinprogress412]

Steve,
I faxed you my creation. The only thing I couldn't do was have the two pointy ends of the top of the C & G swoosh come together even more and have them derive out of 2nd base on the diamond patern. Our staff will be the only ones who get this subtle symbolism, but it's at 2nd base in the process that we expect people to be in a community group. I think the one with the words justified right look best - completing the logo and seems to put everything in relationship to one another. LMK which one you think look best proportionately. I made the diamond pattern 50% on the copy machine and then taped it in place so it's not exact - but you should get the jist.
Dave

[makinprogress412]

Steve- anything final yet? Thanks.
Dave

[graphxguy]

Dave,
Glad to see the God brought you through your hectic schedule.

Here are the revisions based on your fax.

I'm not at my home office so I tried to come as close to the fax as possible. I reduced the diamonds to 50% and moved the "G" swoosh closer to the "C" swoosh.

As far as the web template is concerned, I should be able to get you revisions sometime tomorrow. Be in prayer for me and my wife as we are trying to decide if we should change our work schedules so I can concentrate more on my business.

Looking forward to your comments.

Thanks.

[makinprogress412]

the top one is pretty much it. the bottom one was crooked b/c I taped it on crooked - LOL. I would need a .jpg for web, a bitmap and the original .ai file or .eps file for printers.
Thanks.
Dave

We do on the prayer request.

[makinprogress412]

Received my final files and they look awesome! Thanks Steve on excellent work. That last change made it A++. Thanks
Thanks Palmer and this one's done!!!
Dave