Philip's Lawn Service - $100

[pls]

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$100.00

Hey guys you all do great work and this service is exactly what I was looking for. To increase my professional look I will be needing a more professional logo. This logo will be going on all invoices, advertisements, a website, and a sign on the trailer. In the future this logo might appear on t-shirts and the side of my truck.

My services mostly include mowing and fall clean up. I would like the logo to be crisp and clean. I would like to see dark green (forest) and silver (I run silver dixie chopper mowers) included in the logo. However I am not limited to these colors and other colors would be ok. I think blades of grass would look good as well since mowing is my main service.

Philip's Lawn Service
quality-reliability-flexibility

I would like the information above to be included in the logo, if the 3 bullets are too much include "quality lawn care" instead.


my phone number is ***-****and if that could be worked in that would be cool. But I think that would be over the top.


This contest will end March 17 2003
however I might pick a winner before then because I need to start advertising, updating my website, and getting the sign made.

I will be checking the progress 2-3 times a day to keep you guys updated.

You all are great!
Thanks
phil

[CBaker14]

Hi,

I will posting my entry soon...

Thanks,

Chris

[pls]

thanks cbaker

[pls]

hows it coming guys?

[CBaker14]

Im working on it...just a little slow today....Ill have something posted later tonight...

[Bill]

Here's my entry....

[pls]

pennyln

good start

not enough color and too plane

also my name has 1 L and not 2

thanks for the effort

[pls]

any other designs??

[pls]

I dont want to sound impaitent but is anyone working on this? I need ideas as soon as possible, its been a while since I have heard from anyone.

thanks

[cursal]

I will be entering in the next couple days.

My guess is that most designers are working on contests that have a closer deadline.

You set yours at March 17th.

I am in and you will see something by Friday or sooner.

Kind reguards,
--Brian

[cursal]

Here is a rough draft (the mower needs work lol)

but am I headed in the right direction?

<img src='http://deluxebanners.com/contests/phil_lawn_logo.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

Thanks,
--Brian

[Carl]

Here is an idea - w/ and w/o the phone number...



Carl...

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[Julie]

Here's one...I stuck with just type to really bring out your name--making it VERY prominent.

Julie

[Bethie]

good morning, here's my try at it:

[Mark]

Here's my entry :)

[Carl]

...another way to look at it...


Carl...

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[pls]

Thanks so much for the prompt responses!!!

CURSAL:

I not a big fan of showing equipment in logos. I would also like to see darker green an some silver if possible.

CADII:
Heading in the rigt direction with the colors and grass. However I would like the grass to be more like blades and not a lawn. I also would like the blades of grass to be more incorportaed with the txt and not so stand-alone.

JULIET:

Awesome color choice. A little too bold and ridgid. I dont want my name to stand out quite so much. (Only 1 L not 2)

BETHIE:

Not what I am looking for. I would like to have grass and not a tree, its too round and hard to read.

Mark B:

Solid design, I like the colors, the grass is ok but still needs too look a little more real. However I dont like the leaf floating across it seems a little destracting

Thanks so much guys! you all are doing great, I will be checking very a couple times a day.

[cursal]

Ok next round,

<img src='http://www.deluxebanners.com/contests/phil_lawn_logo2.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

What do you think of this layout? Colors?

Thank you,
--Brian

[pls]

Cursal

Nice revision. I would not like so much grass dominating the logo. 3-6 blades should be plenty, all in a little clump.

The green is still a little too light

here are some colors I am looking for:

[pls]

the green

[DesignGeneral]

I'll have something, soon... :)

[Carl]

Here are some revisions based on your comments...

Carl...

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[pls]

cadii

NICE!!

these are looking better

I like the 2nd one best, I like the "shiny" silver color you made.




Could you guys possibly experiment with oval desigs or rounded shape logos??

thanks

[Julie]

Here's another...

[Carl]

Here are your Oval and Circle. A full circle presented some challenges so I removed the bottom arc and enclosed it with a flat edge...

Carl...

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[cursal]

I'm back with a better feeling of what your after :B



<img src='http://www.deluxebanners.com/contests/phil_lawn_logo3.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />


Enjoy
--Brian

[pls]

JulieT

A little too plane, my name is too big and the grass looks too fake. I do like the rectangle format.

Cadii

Looks great. the 1st and 2nd are my favorite. Could you try out some different font types and different grass layouts with that oval shape???

Thanks, everyone is doing great!

[pls]

I just saw this logo on this site today.

I like the way the grass is a main part in the logo but not too overbearing.

[pls]

cursal

I like the colors. Try to make it fit together better and with more pronounced grass like that in Green Quest's logo.

THANKS!!

[Carl]

Latest revisions...

Carl...

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[cursal]

Ok Philip, here are the revisions:

Top row uses the drop of the second p as the space to allow better alignment of the text below "Lawn Care"

Second Colum has a "shadow" behind the grass and underline,
#4 has just a hint of the black behind it to pull it out more.



<img src='http://www.deluxebanners.com/contests/phil_lawn4.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />




Getting closer?

Thanks for your comments :)

--Brian

[pls]

Cadii

I love 1 and 2. Could you try that design with different grass. The ones currently on it seem too unrealistic and out of control. Could you try Philip's Lawn Care and not Philip's Lawn Service, I just want to see how it will look. Thanks

Cursal

2 and 4 look awesome. Could you try making the phone number bigger and try out different fonts?

THANKS !!!!!!

[cursal]

Expect revisions in next few says.

Great to hear things are coming together. :)


Thanks for you comments,
--Brian

[DesignGeneral]

here is my entry...

Let me know if I'm on the right way.

Thanks

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[DesignGeneral]

few variants...

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[pls]

DG

Nice start. However I dont think I want a filled in oval, it is hard to read and would be to bold on signs, invoices, etc. I like the white background that cadii is using.


Thanks

[DesignGeneral]

here we go with whte background :)

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[DesignGeneral]

here are without ovals.

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[pls]

DG

Thanks for the new imput on my logo designs. I am looking for something a little more complex and not quite as simple as your entrys. The grass in the background makes the words hard to read.

I really like cadiis last entry (#1 and 2). The grass is a part of the logo but does not interfear with the txt and looks sharp. cadii needs to make the grass look a little more real and not like a weed. lol

[Waxwing]

Ok - here's my entry.

[DesignGeneral]

working to make it more complex. I'll be back in few min:)

[Carl]

pls,

I changed the grass and used "Lawn Care" on the second treatment so you could see it. Of course, I can change it on number 1 if you want to see that too.

Carl...

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[Waxwing]

One more

[Tonya]

<img src='http://www.frobo.com/graphic_work/philips/philips1.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />


<img src='http://www.frobo.com/graphic_work/philips/philips2.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

[DesignGeneral]

back...

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[pls]

WOW!! you guys are great!

Wax

Great work! I am just concerned that it might be a little over bearing and hard to read. Could you give me some similar entries with a little twist?

Dyan
Little too simple and not what I am looking for. but good effort.

DG
Thank you for your effort with so many entries!
However it is just not what I am looking for.

Cadii

Awesome Work! Keep Philip's Lawn Service and not Philip's Lawn Care. I like the 1st one the best. Any small revisions you could make to the grass would be good also. (it does not look like a weed anymore lol)

I will be declaring a winner MONDAY MARCH 1st at 7 pm. Cadii has what I am looking for but I am still open to any new posts.

[DesignGeneral]

Pls,

I'm going to have more entries.

Can you give me a more detailed feedback. What you like and what you don't like in my entries? Do you like the font treatment I used?

[Carl]

Better grass? I also cleaned up the text, fixed the widths of the fonts, cleaned up the oval around the fonts.

Enjoy...

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[pls]

NICE!

could you make a thin outline wtih that silver around the oval or would that look stupid?

I like the grass as it is but just curious to see how it would look with slightly thicker blades and less pointy tips.

GREAT WORK!

[pls]

DG

You logo is solid but I really dont like the grass. The font is too ridgid and needs more roundness. I am looking for rounded shapes with some blades of realistic grass that is simple but not too homemade.

hope that helps

thanks for your hard work!

[Carl]

pls,

I will work on the revisions. I will have them for you later this evening. I have to run some errands and will be back.

I will show you the current one and compare it to revisions.

Would you want the silver outline of th Oval to also outline the grass tips?

Carl...

[pls]

could you try both? if not just the oval. Thanks!

[DesignGeneral]

Thanks for the feedback pls. Working on it right now.
I'll be back soon :)

[cursal]

pls,

Do you now want the logo to say

Lawn Service

and NOT

Lawn Care?

Who's idea was it to use that, yours? Cadii's?

If Cadii's do you grant permission for other to use this phrase as well?

Thanks, Revisions coming after some feedback is given about this.

--Brian

[pls]

It was my idea. I have always been Philip's lawn service but I just wanted to goof around with lawn care. Anyone can use philip's lawn service in their logos.

thanks

[DesignGeneral]

what about this?

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[DesignGeneral]

more options ... Let me know if you like any of them and if you want changes.

Thanks

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[Waxwing]

Revised version. Thanks...

[Waxwing]

Here are some more to think about

[Tonya]

<img src='http://www.frobo.com/graphic_work/philips/philips3.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

[CBaker14]

Very nice dynagirl....very professional looking...

[Carl]

pls,

As requested...
Carl...

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[Tonya]

and one more:

<img src='http://www.frobo.com/graphic_work/philips/philips4.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

[cursal]

pls,

I will have revisions for you on sunday late night PST. Wish I could do it sooner. Just so busy.

You like the design as it is?
and
You only want to see font changes?

out of the last 2 you liked do you prefer the shrub of grass on the left or right?

More of a rounded font or one more "blocky" ?

7 pm on the 1st is deadline, what time zone? just curious B)

The more feedback the better. So lay it on.

Thank you,
--Brian

[Eagle]

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Hi pls

Here's my entry - a two color design with the third (gradient) being four color (CMYK). Works well in black & white too. :)

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[pls]

WOW guys great work!

Just a reminder this contest will now end on MARCH 1st at 7pm eastern time.

DG

I like the first one of the 6 you submitted. However I dont like the grass being incorportaed into the L. The grass needs to be more realistic and more spread out. Could you try outlining the phone number in black. I still dont really like the "3D" look of the oval.

Wax

I like this concept. The first entry was my favorite. Could you make the shadow behind Philip's Lawn Service a dark silver instead of black to make the name stand out. The grass needs to be a little darker green also.

Dynagril

Looks great. I love how crisp it is. Could you make the oval horizontal and not vertical. Also try and make the silver in the back ground "shiny" and not one color. Also a shadow or outline of my name might be cool

Cadii

I like the last entry with the silver just bordering the oval and not the grass. There is still something missing from the grass. The blades are too thin and wirey. Please try and make the grass fan out a little also. I also really like how you outlined each blade of grass in the original logo on the last page.

Dyangril

The last entry is not quite what I have in mind. The color is a little too overbearing, and the grass needs to be more realistic. I like your first entry better.

Eagle

Nice. The green is a little too light. The one on the right side is my favorite. I dont really like the "star" of grass look. Could you also make the silver a little darker? thanks

Cursal

Your design is solid. I needs some less bold fonts and dont outline PHILP so many times. Maybe try some italics. I am looking for a less overbearing background. I would also like some different looking grass. Thanks!


You all are great and thank you for the quick responses.

[DesignGeneral]

working at revisions. I'l be back...

[Waxwing]

Just another try

[DesignGeneral]

here we go...

Let me know if you want changes. I can do them now. :)

Thanks

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[Eagle]

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Hi

How about your very own icon. Many uses... <img src='http://www.eagleimagery.co.uk/smil3y/eaglethumb.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

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[pls]

Great work guys!

WAX

I like where your going with this. The quality reliability flexibiltity needs a border. I like the grass but I do not like the black bar. I also dont like how my name is placed, it needs to be more boldness but not over the top.


DG
getting closer
I like the black border. Experiment with a thicker black border lined with the silver. The grass "explodes" too much.

Eagle

I like the icon idea. Anyone who can incorporate an icon into their logo whould be great. I love the silver with my name. I really like this. could you just try out similar things? Different icons? just for more opitons? Sorry I cant give you more
feedback.


You guys are doing GREAT!

[Eagle]

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Sorry, I just copyrighted icons... ;) ;)

[DesignGeneral]

doing revisions now :)


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back

Let me know if now is better.

Thanks

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[DesignGeneral]

2 more ...

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[pls]

Eagle

can other people design icons at all? if not try out some new designs, thanks

DG

I like the bottom left one on your last post. The grass still needs work. Thanks

[Eagle]

<!--QuoteBegin-pls+Feb 29 2004, 11:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (pls @ Feb 29 2004, 11:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Eagle

can other people design icons at all? if not try out some new designs, thanks [/b][/quote]
Lol, sorry, I was just kidding! :)

[DesignGeneral]

fixing grass... :)

[DesignGeneral]

back :)

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[pls]

Nice work DG

could you experiment with staring the grass from the the Q on Quality. And dont start it at a point, make it a little spread out. Also the baldes need too be a little thicker.

Thank you for working so hard!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Eagle]

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Hi pls

A few icon tryouts.

Can I just ask at this stage; are you aware of the (slightly) higher costs involved in getting designs with gradients printed? :)

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[DesignGeneral]

I'll be back in few min ... :)

[pls]

Eagle

Nice changes. Could you make The Philip's Lawn service a different font. Also Philip is a little too bold. Also in the P icon could you make every green silver and silver green? To offset the P in Philip. Also make the white gap between the ovals silver instead of white. I like the new icon better.

[Waxwing]

Here is another go.....

[DesignGeneral]

let me know if u like the grass now.

Thanks

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[DesignGeneral]

more...

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[DesignGeneral]

pls,

what do you think about last entries?

[Tonya]

<img src='http://www.frobo.com/graphic_work/philips/philips5.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

[Carl]

pls,

Made changes to grass. Also included an Icon logo treatment.

Carl...

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[pls]

DG

NICE
I like the single patch of grass to the left. Could you make the grass have a little more depth and be a little taller. (less bush like) :D

Dyangirl

Very nice. #2 is my favorite. The three words at the bottom need more emphasis.

Cadii

I love #2. Could you make the grass a little taller with less blades and a little less curve? I also like the silver outlining the green oval. Maybe a slight black shadow on the 3 words?

Eagle, Looking forward to seeing you next entry.


Great job guys! :tup:

[pls]

sorry cadii I just reread my last comment to you and it sounds like I am saying opposite things to you between posts. I like the grass in the #2 logo. I just dont want quite so much of it. Make the grass straight with a little curve. You last entry had too much curve. I would also like to see the grass "spill" out the top of the oval. THANKS

[lawnforum2sanke]

Your getting alot of great designs, Phil!

:tup:

[DesignGeneral]

now is better?

I made an icon for you also... :rolleyes:

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[ElKootcho]

<img src='http://www.smallbusinessstyle.com/DesignOutpost/PhilipsLawn_01.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

[Carl]

pls,

I changed the grass for you and changed up the shadowing on the 3 words. I also reversed the grass in the oval to give you a look at it and did an icon based on the grass with a reversed white "P".

Carl...

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[pls]

Nice

I like the bottom right the best. Cold you make the 3 words stand out better?

El

Thanks for the new post. Im not sure about the "star" behind the name. I would also like too see a little more silver.

Cadii.

I like the origional grass you had just make it a little taler. #2 is my favorite with the shadowing and outlining.

thanks!

[Carl]

Here ya go.

Carl...

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[Eagle]

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Hi again

Five versions here; all with subtle nuances...so Ive included an enlargement of each icon.

Oval has been 'silvered' and the font has been thinned down a bit. :)

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[Raja]

howdy doody, speed and professionalism

[Tonya]

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Cadii

A little less grass and experiment with grass heights (a little taller)


Eagle
#2 is my favorite. make the 3 words silver, could you also thin out the font a little more alos.

Jaja

A little to flashy. Need somthing conservative.

dyangirl

Could you try some different fonts with Philips Lawn Service?

:tup: :tup: :tup:

[pls]

Cadii

could you change the color of the oval around the logo? Different than the Lawn Service and grass color? thanks

[Carl]

Here you go.

Carl...

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[pls]

cadii

nice! Could you try the oval color a different color green (similar to eagles) around the oval instead of the silver? I like the grass alot better, could you outline the grass with the white like before? One last thing... the blades are still a little thin, I like the pointed tips though.

[Eagle]

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Hello pls

Just a quick question - do you want a simulated 'silver' effect for your lettering (as already shown) or do you actually want to print it a true silver (metallic)? Either way, I can accommodate. :)

[pls]

true silver thanks!

[cursal]

Last entry :)

[Carl]

pls,

Revisions attached. True silver is not a problem. Metallic silver shows up as gray on a computer screen, so I am using simulated right now.

Carl...

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[Eagle]

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Hi pls

Here's your revisions.

The second one represents the file which would be supplied with a Pantone spot color reference for metallic silver. For obvious reasons, this cannot display properly on a monitor. Metallic lustre may vary dependant on substrate used and the printing process itself. :)

If you haven't done so already, I would thoroughly recommend getting a metallic job priced up at your printers as they are often prohibitively expensive. However, I could still supply the simulated silver as in the first version. :)

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[pls]

well guys it is time.

first off let me say how happy I am to have such amazing designers working on my LOGO! :)

you all have been very promt and done the best to make any changes I have suggested. I would like to that DG for his exta effort through his millions of posts and revisions.

My choice is Cadii.


Cadii.... I like you overall logo idea but we still need to work on some small revisions. Do we stay on this forum or do we move?


congrats to cadii and I thank everyone for their hard work.

[Carl]

pls,

I am looking forward to working with you on the revisions.

The thread will be moved to the Revisions Forum.

You need to change the title of your contest to *Contest Over* so that everyone knows you have declared a winner.

Carl...

[pls]

were is the revisions forum? :rolleyes:

[Eagle]

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pls check your PMs for the link

Congrats cadii! :tup:

[pls]

Cadii

Thanks for your great work!

just a few moderate revisions

I like the grass below. Just make the grass a little taller and not quite so much grass. Could you try a black for the oval color. (any other colors you think would look good as well)

Thanks!

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[Carl]

pls,

I am working on your revisions, just wanted to keep you up to date. I should have them by this evening.

I will toss a few different oval colors at you. I will also make each graphic larger, so you can see the color detail better.

Carl...

[Carl]

Revisions:

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Carl...

[pls]

One small revision and we are finished!

could you please outline the silver text in my name and the 3 words. I think it might be hard to read otherwise. Grass looks great!

Maybe a few clicks darker green in the oval.

Your awesome!

[pls]

Sorry I liked the first one the best... lol

[Carl]

pls,

I cleaned up the edges on the text - added proper outlines - they will print well - it doesn't look as good on a monitor, but they are there.

I moved the green color down to the darkest forest green PMS color available. It was one step down from what was originally in the file.

I know you are interested in printing the silver color as a metallic finish, and that is how I have the files setup.

I will be travelling out of town beginning tomorrow and will only be checking in occassionally, but will have my files for this job with me to make changes if necessary.

You can always email me at diedrich@comcast.net

Carl...

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[pls]

Perfect!

my e-mail is pmb@insightbb.com

I will not be home untill later this evening if you need something.

Could you give me one with the phone number and one without?

Thanks!

[Carl]

pls,

I will be getting all the files together for you.

I just need to know what file formats you need everything in for your printer.

I can do them tomorrow and email the files as needed.

Carl...

[pls]

sounds good. I would assume my printer could use just JPEG and GIF files.

Also I noticed on your final logo there was a color problem just to the left of the grass in the oval. Like a like a little section of black covers the green.

Below:

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[Carl]

pls,

I noticed that too. I rechecked the file and it happened on the transfer to a web image. It WILL NOT look that way in the final artwork.

Also, do you need a black and white image for faxing, checks, etc.?

Carl...

[pls]

sure that would be great!

[Carl]

pls,

I have the logos ready to go in Illustrator Format and zipped up. I know you said you wanted the logos in JPEG or GIF format, but unless I know the exact use for the logo, I will have to make the logos very large and they will have to be put on disk for you.

I can email the zipped Illustrator files and you can see if those are ok for your printer to use.

Generally, the Illustrator files are preferred because they are in Vector format which makes them very easy to scale. Also, the color information, including the Pantone Spot Color for the Metallic Silver will be embedded in the file.

I took the liberty of creating just your name "Philip's Lawn Service" as a seperate service mark for you to use when the full logo isn't appropriate.

I will email the zip file to you.

I will still be doing a disk for you, which will have everything on it, including all Vector and Raster (JPEG or GIF) images.

I will need your mailing address. The disk will most likely be sent out Tuesday, unless you need it sooner.

Let me know!

Carl...

BTW, Here are all the marks that I have made for you:

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[pls]

anyway you could send that disk by monday?

[Carl]

pls,

I will get it out on Monday for you!

I just need the address. Send to cdiedrich [at] comcast.net


Thanks!
Carl...

[Palmer]

This came in my email, I'm assuming it goes here...

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[Carl]

Philip,

Your disk went out today. You will have it tomorrow.

Carl...

[Carl]

Philip,

Just checking in to see if you received the package today.

I have a delivery confirmation to your front door, and wanted to be sure you actually got the disk!

Thanks!
Carl...

[pls]

yeah sure did. Thanks so much for your hard work cadii. I will put that stuff in the mail tom.

[pls]

send it out today, will be picked up march 10. Let me know when you get it

thanks