Prestige Timber Stairs - $100

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

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We are in desperate need for a logo for our timber stair company!!!

PTS is a timber stair company that manufactures timber stairs to a variety of buyers. At this stage of our business it is mainly to small builders and people doing their own home renovations. (Our company is only a few months old). By the end of the year PTS is more likely to be selling stairs to primarily larger construction companies and gaining contracts with the bigger project home builders.

The design of the stairs varies so much that it is difficult to put us in a category but we can manufacture stock-standard stairs or design modern stairs to suit the client.

We use all types of timber, it usually depends on whether the stairs are going to be covered in carpet or not. Obviously if they are going to be carpeted then the type of timber is not too much of a concern. However, if the staircase is going to be left bare then the client needs to choose the timber that would suit their style, design and budget.

The stairs that we produce can be designed for outdoor and indoor. The outdoor stairs are a bit more confined on the timber range to ensure that they last in all weather conditions. But we do about 50%, at this stage, outdoor timber stairs, using mostly hardwoods.

The fashion at the moment is timber stairs with cast iron and wood balustrades, so we also import these balustrades and incorporate them in our designs and installations.

We don't have a web site at this stage or photos that I can put onto the web but if you look at any stair company web site it might give you some ideas.

At this stage we are open to all types of designs. We are thinking of having navy blue and red as our colours but it's not definate as yet. We would like something funky and modern, maybe a stair somehow involved in the logo but not necessary. We would like the words 'Prestige Timber Stairs Pty Ltd' to appear and also 'PTS'.

We like the idea of having a stair in the logo but not one just scanned off a picture, something really unusual. Curving stairs, handrails, people walking up stairs are some ideas. Even just a squiggle that looks a bit like a stair could be good. We like the words to look quite fancy and the picture to almost be incorporated in the words.

Please keep in mind this logo will be used on our business cards, letterheads and other marketing materials so it needs to be able to look good in lots of sizes. It also needs to be able to be printed out in Black and White and still look good.

Any suggestions would be great

thanks

[Julie]

Do you have any pictures of the work you do? I'd like to try incorporating something you've done into the logo.

Julie

[nicklala]

Hi, here is my first attempt, let me know what you think of these

<img src='http://www.essentialhosting.com/temp/prestigelogo.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

Thanks,

Nick

[AlexKogan]

A question to the Contest Holder:

could you please explain what exactly does your company do? :) That would help us to grab the direction of the design concept, and maybe, as Julie said, we could use some specific items relted to your workflow in our logos.

Thanks in advance ;)

[novapages]

Did someone say funky and modern? Remember this optical illusion? Here's one color variation. I also like it with green or red stairs. And it looks fine in grey scale or the grey can be removed altogether for a pure black and white. The font can change but I think it should stay either boxy (to match the stairs) or maybe something in a hand-scripted looking font (to compliment the stairs). I've just included boxy because I like it better. Whaddoya think...

[MOZ]

Hello
Here's some art work I created featuring stairs and balustrades.

If you like what you see I'll work in the text and as you see it works well in B/W
I can add color (Suggestions of color please)

PLMK if you like

MOZ

[imageconstrux]

PTS, I'm thinking that from the name that the stairs you make are for the outdoors. If you have some pics to share, or a website, or more info about your product...

Do you construct out of cedar? Treated? Is your work usually stained or painted?

Who do you sell to? The consumer or installers?

Maybe with answers to those questions the creative juices will start to flow. Just some ideas. :)

[beatz]

Hi,

here are 2 suggestions; feedback appreciated.

Thanks,

Frankl

[graphxguy]

Here's my entry.

Fonts and colors can change at your request.

Looking foreward to your comments and feedback.

Thanks.

[AlexKogan]

I'd like to kindly thank the CH for the reply, but it is also our policy that all communication between designers and contest holders are public :)

I'll post the reply here for all to see. Thanks once again for the information :)

PTS is a timber stair company that manufactures timber stairs to a variety of buyers.&nbsp; At this
stage of our business it is mainly to small builders and people doing their own home renovations.
(Our company is only a few months old).&nbsp; By the end of the year PTS is more likely to be selling
stairs to primarily larger construction companies and gaining contracts with the bigger project
home builders.&nbsp;

The design of the stairs varies so much that it is difficult to put us in a category but we can
manufacture stock-standard stairs or design modern stairs to suit the client.&nbsp;

We use all types of timber, it usually depands on whether the stairs are going to be covered in
carpet or not.&nbsp; Obviously if they are going to be carpeted then the type of timber is not too much
of a concern.&nbsp; However, if the staircase is going to be left bare then the client needs to choose
the timber that would suit their style, design and budget.&nbsp;

The stairs that we produce can be designed for outdoor and indoor.&nbsp; The outdoor stairs are a bit
more confined on the timber range to ensure that they last in all weather conditions.&nbsp; But we do
about 50%, at this stage, outdoor timber stairs, using mostly hardwoods.

The fashion at the moment is timber stairs with cast iron and wood balustrades, so we also import
these balustrades and incorporate them in our designs and installations.

We don't have a web site at this stage or photos that I can put onto the web but if you look at
any stair company web site it might give you some ideas.

I hope this helps, let me know if I can help any further.

[novapages]

<!--QuoteBegin-Alex_Kogan+Mar 1 2004, 03:50 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Alex_Kogan @ Mar 1 2004, 03:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'd like to kindly thank the CH for the reply, but it is also our policy that all communication between designers and contest holders are public :) [/b][/quote]
Oops; I'm sorry its been quite a while since I participated here and I'd forgotten that rule. :o Should I make my communication public as well?

Velda

[AlexKogan]

Velda, if you are contacted by a Contest Holder privately during a contest and regarding the contest, please tell them politely that it's against the rules or contact any member of administration team. You don't have to post here your private correspondence, though.

Also, please check the rules once again, just in case there are more things you'd forgotten ;) Here's the link: http://www.designoutpost.com/forums/?showtopic=35
Read it carefully and check out all the links this tread offers.

Same for the rest of you, Team ;)

[Just J]

Here is my first entry. I am still working on the "PTS".

Jason

[Tyler]

In the gleam of the night...

:ph34r:

[novapages]

<!--QuoteBegin-Alex_Kogan+Mar 3 2004, 01:01 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Alex_Kogan @ Mar 3 2004, 01:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Also, please check the rules once again, just in case there are more things you'd forgotten ;) [/b][/quote]
Thanks, I did just as soon as I'd realized I'd forgotten :)

[Aaron]

I have another question for the contest holder... where is the company located? I have a concept going but may not be effective if the locale is too different.

thanks,

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

Hi,

We are in Sydney, Australia. What do you have in mind?? Sounds interesting!!

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

HI Nickala,

Not sure if you got our reply before, it seems we sent it to your private email and that's against the rules, so here goes again.

Thanks for the design. What you done is very similar to what we build but not really what we had in mind for a logo. We wanted something more modern and simple.

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

Moz,

Thansk for design but it's a bit busy for us. We had something much simpler in mind

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

Imageconstrux,
Thanks for the questions. I have redone the first part of the competition so that it contains alot more information about what our company does. Please refer to this as I think it will answer most of your questions
thanks

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

Frankl - beatz,
Thanks for the designs, not sure if you got our other email but just to repeat.
The first one we like but is a bit too 'surfy' for the image we are trying to sell. We prefer something modern and simple. We're not too keen on the picture of the person on the stairs, but ;oke the idea. We like the second one not sure about the font and different colours might help
thanks

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

Graphixguy,
Really like your design. It's great. Would like to see it in either red or blue. Is there any way you could make it look like they are stairs and as if they are decending? At the moment we think it looks a little like a rail track but really can't stress how much we like the idea :tup: :tup:

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

Jason - Blackspot,
We think your design is fantastic! We like 'A' better with the black strip thru it. We are really keen to see how you can incorporate PTS into the logo too. Please get it to us as soon as you can! :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup:

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

Radicalseed,
You should work that late at night all the time. We think your design is great. We like the yellow one better, the blue was a little dark. Keep in mind it has to work well in a grayscale copy too. Is there a way you could take the focus off the word Prestige and keep 'Prestige Timber Stairs' all the same size?
Please let us know what you can come up with
thanks :tup: :tup: :tup:

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

TO ALL DESIGNERS :clap:
Thank you for all the interest you have give our logo. We are really impressed with what you have come up with so far.

Could we make one tiny suggestion??

Can you please keep the emphasis off PRESTIGE and put the same on on the whole business name PRESTIGE TIMBER STAIRS Pty Ltd.

Pty Ltd doesn't need to be as big.

Let's see what you can come up with!!!

Thanks
PTS

[DesignGeneral]

I'll have something soon :)

[Just J]

Here ya go, "PTS" included. Also included another font option without the "PTS".

Jason

[Aaron]

<!--QuoteBegin-PrestigeTimberStairs+Mar 5 2004, 05:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PrestigeTimberStairs @ Mar 5 2004, 05:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hi,

We are in Sydney, Australia. What do you have in mind?? Sounds interesting!! [/b][/quote]
Well, I was hoping you were here in the states ;) since this design works well for an American company, but maybe we can morify it for you. Any thoughts?

[Tyler]

Here is a revision to my first post as well as a new idea using the PTS initials a little bit of the old rise and run.

:ph34r:

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

Jason,
We not too sure that we like the PTS in the logo, we feel it looks too crowded. WE do like the new font you've used on the second design though. Can you do anything else with it?

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

Arthouse,
We like the look of your design. It looks very corporate which is great but not sure that it suits our company. We'd like more emphasis on the Prestige Timber Stairs part, any chance of seeing it in black and white?

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

Design General
Anything happening?

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

Radical Seed,
Your new design (the rise and run one) is not really what we want but we still really like the old one. Can you place Prestige TImber Stairs on the right hand side again and put in in the same size font. Could you give us an option of a few fonts to see what we like best? We really like the yellow but we'd like to see if it works in other colours other than the dark blue and red you did first. :cooldude:

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

To all designers

Prestige Timber Stairs would like to thank all designers for their imput and are almost ready to make a final decision so if you have any last minute designs please let us know as soon as possible!!!

Thanks :smart:

[novapages]

Hola there ... any new suggestions / requests with my design (the optical illusion stairs)? If you're still interested in something like that and want to see it tweaked a bit let me know. -Velda

[Aaron]

You want a black and white version of the one I had posted previously?

[Tyler]

Here are some color options and a new font.

:ph34r:

[Tyler]

And some more colors and fonts

:ph34r:

[Tonya]

<img src='http://www.frobo.com/graphic_work/prestige/prestige1.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

[Carl]

Here goes...

Carl...

[Just J]

I've made revisions to the one you liked. I tried three different options to put emphasis on the PTS (I REALLY like "c"). Let me know what you think.

[Fabian]

Hi,

Sorry for the late entry

Thanks
Fabian

[DesignGeneral]

Here is my entry,

-some stairs that doing a home ;)

- view of circular stairs


If you want changes I'll be happy to do them.

Thanks :tup:

[Tonya]

<img src='http://www.frobo.com/graphic_work/prestige/prestige2.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

[Just J]

My wife yelled at me that I should've posted this version as well, and since it's a lot easier to post it than argue... Here you go! :blink: ;) :lol:

[Aaron]

Managed to work a locale-inspired design into it ;)

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

Arthouse,

LIke the new designs but not really the star. Could you put more emphasis on the words Prestige Timber Stairs and less on PTS?

thanks

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

Tonya,

Really like Prestige #1. We like the simplisity of it.
Prestige #2 could we ask you to put the words Prestige Timber zStairs on the right hand side of the logo like #1, or on the left, just to try it out and maybe some different colours or fonts. Can we suggest yellow and black? and any others you like.

thanks

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

Carl,

We think it's very unique but not really what we're after.

thanks though, can you come up with something else?

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

Design General,

We really like the spiral image you have designed. Is there any way it could look a little more like stairs?? The house one is clever but too much for us.

Thanks

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

Jason,

Your wife was right to yell at you!! We really like these new ones. My preference is for #3c. too, although we like the original one just as much! We can't decide!

Thanks

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

Fabian,

We like the simplicity but to us the logo doesn't sell stairs, sorry

thanks though

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

Radical Seed,

Thanks for the new colour selection, looks great but now we can't decide which one we like best!! We'll let you know soon.

thanks

[DesignGeneral]

thanks for feedback. I'll work at it now :)

[DesignGeneral]

what about this?

[Aaron]

<!--QuoteBegin-PrestigeTimberStairs+Mar 15 2004, 03:41 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PrestigeTimberStairs @ Mar 15 2004, 03:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Could you put more emphasis on the words Prestige Timber Stairs and less on PTS?
[/b][/quote]
Is this more in line with what you're looking for, or even more focus on the full name?

[Tonya]

<!--QuoteBegin-PrestigeTimberStairs+Mar 15 2004, 04:44 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PrestigeTimberStairs @ Mar 15 2004, 04:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Tonya,

Really like Prestige #1. We like the simplisity of it.
Prestige #2 could we ask you to put the words Prestige Timber zStairs on the right hand side of the logo like #1, or on the left, just to try it out and maybe some different colours or fonts. Can we suggest yellow and black? and any others you like.

thanks [/b][/quote]
If none of these work for you, I can try different fonts or colors.

<img src='http://www.frobo.com/graphic_work/prestige/prestige3.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

[Aaron]

;)

[novapages]

You mentioned before you might like navy blue AND red; so here are some color varations; also I've tried a different font and made Prestige Timber Stairs bigger than PTY LTD.

[beatz]

Here is a revision; different font and colors.

Feedback appreciated :)

Thanks,

Frank

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

DesignGeneral,

I think I liked it better when there weren't so many lines thru it. Any other ways to fix it?

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

Aaron - arthouse,

Yes it is more what we had in mind, maybe even a bit more emphasis on the full name but very close. Will let you know

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

Tonya,
I think I like either the first one you did or the yellow and black. I'll have to have a beeter look and I'll get back to you. Thanks

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

Velda,
I like what you have done with the writing and I think the colours look better too. It looks really good on letterheads so we'll let you know soon. Thanks

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

Frank,
Love these new colours. When I printed it out to have a look it looked like a dusty blue colour but on my screen it looks grey. I think I like the grey better. I love the greena and the yellow. Will let you know soon. Thanks

[Tonya]

Here's one that sort of blends the look of my 2 previous designs:


<img src='http://www.frobo.com/graphic_work/prestige/prestige4.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

Jason,
Could we see 1a picture with the writing of 2b but on the right hand side of the logo. maybe the Pty Ltd on it's side?
Could we also have a look at it in orange? If it's not too much trouble!!

RadicalSeed,
We like the yellow and black so far. Is it possible to see it in orang/black? Can we have the writing on the right hand side?

Thanks you :brow:

[Just J]

Like this?

[Tyler]

Two shades of orange and a slightly smaller logo to text ratio.

:ph34r:

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

Looks great!!

I think I would like the Pty Ltd on its side but close enough for now.

I'll have to confer with my partner on it but I promise you'll know the final result by the end of the week :tup:

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

Wow, you guys are fast!!!

Will let you know soon

Sorry about taking so long :P :)

[DesignGeneral]

different coloring and new idea ;)

[Aaron]

Simple, but noticeable ;)

[Aaron]

;)

[Aaron]

A subtle gradient adds depth

[Aaron]

;)

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!!

After long consideration we have finally decided on a winner!

Thank you very much to all designers who gave us great logos to choose from. We were amazed by the quality and uniqueness of the designs.

And the winner is.....

JASON BLACK - BLACKSPOT!!!!! :D

There are a few things we want to change to get it completely how we want it though.:
We'd like to keep it orange - is ther a shade lighter for the orange? Can you put the two next to each other?
We'd like to change the font so it's a bit sharper and on the right hand side

thanks

[Just J]

Thank you very much for choosing my design. :D
I will get to work first thing in the morning on the revisions.

[Just J]

I added a few different shades of orange as well as a couple different fonts (each two ways). Let me know if you would like me to mix and match any or if you would like to see differnet fonts.

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

Jason,

Sorry about our slackness to reply and finish this off. We still really like the logo but have been very busy with other things to decide on the font we like.

I have just noticed that P, T & S could be visually bolder . (I'm not not sure how to express myself... sorry) Maybe put the first letter in a box to emphasis the PTS?? So while you read across the page Prestige Timber Stairs you can also read the company name downwards as PTS. Does this make any sense??

I think I like the bolder stronger looking fonts of c. and d. Probably in all capitals too. But still only 80% confident on the fonts here. Sorry again with all the trouble!!!

Jess

[Just J]

No trouble at all. That's what I'm here for. You tell me what you want and I do it. As I've said to someone else before...
Your wish is my command :wizard:
I will get to work on it ASAP.
BTW, I had the same idea about "PTS" going down. Wasn't sure how you would feel about it so I left it alone. I guess I should've done it for you ;)

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

Jason

Thanks heaps,

When ever you can do it is fine, if it's not before easter that's cool.

Don't eat too much chocolate!!!

Jess

[Just J]

Don't eat too much chocolate!!! :lol:
Hi Jess,
I will most likely start posting revisions today. I worked on it last night but couldn't come up with something I liked. In case I dont hear from you until Easter, Have a good Easter.

[Just J]

I completely changed the font to a much stronger font. Did I go too far? Also, Made the "PTS" stand out more. Let me know what you think. If I think of anything else before you answer, I will post them.

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

Jason,

From your #1 Revision we like the original colour.

For the font we like the #2 revison font but it's a bit too bold and thick. Can we have something like the Original font but thicker so it stands out a bit more.

We like the P, T & S in orange but can we have those letters outlined in black?

Can we have the Pty Ltd after the word Stairs rather than underneath it.

Once the logo has been finalised, in what format do you give it to us? We are just wondering how we can change the size for different materials such as a business card or letterhead.

thanks

[Just J]

I will get right to work on those changes for you.
When we are finished with the revisions, I will supply:
300dpi .tif
.eps color
.eps black
(I can substitute .ai files for the .eps if preferred)
.jpg
As for re-sizing for letterhead and business cards... Any designer you choose will be able to work with either the ,tif or .eps. If you would like any other formats just let me know and I will more than happy to supply them.

[Just J]

Original color and a font that is pretty close to being right in between the two fonts used.

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

thanks for that.

I'll get back to you asap.

I'm not sure what all those formats are but I'm sure I can get the printers to work with them like you said.

thanks

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

Hi,

It's getting there. We still think it's a little too bold still. In between the original and the last revision that would be perfect.

thanks - everything else is perfect! :tup:

[Just J]

I'm glad you are liking the way it is going. I added some medium fonts for you to choose from. Let me know if you would like to see any others.

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

Hi Jason,

Thanks for those, we like the 2nd and the 5th ones the best. I am going to print them off at work tomorrow and will let you know which one we'll go with. the design is perfect. this will be it!!!!

[Just J]

Great, I'm glad you like them. I can't wait to hear from you.

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

Hi Jason,

We have decided on the 2nd font!!! YEAH!!!

We'd definately like to have the logo in tiff format with a minimum of 300dpi resolution (this is what I'm told!!!) and all the others you mentioned.

Thanks so much for everything

Jess & Arno

[Just J]

You got it! :tup:
Just going to tie up the loose ends and then I will be ready to send them to you. All I need now is your email address so I can send the files (you can send it to me in a PM if you'd like).

Thanks a lot.

Jason

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

Not sure what a PM is but here's my email address anyway

jessica@austimber.com.au

thanks

Jessica

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

Jason,

I forgot to ask... the printer wants to know what the colours are. Can you let me know?

thanks

Jess

[Michael]

<!--QuoteBegin-PrestigeTimberStairs+Apr 21 2004, 07:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PrestigeTimberStairs @ Apr 21 2004, 07:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Not sure what a PM is but here's my email address anyway

jessica@austimber.com.au

thanks

Jessica [/b][/quote]
Jessica a PM is short for 'Private Message' at the bottom of each post you will see a button with PM on it, you are able to send private messages to members :)


Let me know if you need further help.


Michael

[Just J]

forgot to ask... the printer wants to know what the colours are. Can you let me know?
Sure Jess...

The Orange is Pantone 1665PC
The Black is Pantone Black

The files have been sent.
Thank you VERY much Jess. Let me know if you need anything else.

Jason


BTW, Thanks for the quick answer to the question Michael.

[PrestigeTimberStairs]

Project complete, files received