Advanced Services - $100

[Landscaper]

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Hello all, I am looking for a new logo for my established landscape business. I KNOW, ANOTHER LANDSCAPER!!
I came here because I’ve looked through some of your work and I am extremely excited to see the designs that you come up with for me. I also like the fact that with all the Landscapers you do, most of the designs are unique.

My company’s current name is Advanced Services. However, I am considering changing the name to Advanced Landscape Services to allow people to know the nature of our business. We do all types of landscape, maintenance and snow removal. Since our current name doesn’t reflect these services, the logo needs to.

I would like something that is professional and not to cartoon-like, although if you think you may have something that I should consider, I’ll view it. I’d like it to be clean and more on the modern side, something different, yet recognizable. Our company has grown significantly and now I’d like a catchy logo so people can recognize us without necessarily having to know our name. We currently use green, white and maroon, but again I am replacing my uniforms this year, so I am open to anything and really would like something new.

I will be using this logo for letterhead, business cards, signs, advertisements, envelopes, clothing, sign on truck(s) and for a web-site. I am hoping to get designs in the format that will fit these needs (jpeg, eps and tif). I will need one with our phone number and one without.

The contest deadline is March 19, 2004, unless a winner is picked before that date.

We look forward to seeing your ideas and will be checking the site frequently throughout the day. :help: :tup:

[Landscaper]

I will be checking the progress 2-3 times a day to keep you guys updated.

[CBaker14]

Hey,

I'll be posting soon...

Thanks,

Chris

[CBaker14]

Hey,

Here are a few diferent designs for you to look at...I even tried it with your possible new name ADVANCED LANDSCAPE. Tell me if Im moving in the right direction...

Thanks,

Chris

[CBaker14]

Here are a few more with different icon...

Chris

[Landscaper]

I like the second set with the three icons better. I don't think the font gives it that POP but, you are moving in the right direction.
Also, my 1st choice would be to keep our name Advanced Services and just create a logo to portray what we do. However, if we did change it would have to contain the full "Advanced Landscape Services"

Thanks
Jeff

[Juvanescence]

My first entry. Stylised and modern.

[Bethie]

here's mine

[CBaker14]

How does this work for you...how do the colors work?

Thanks,

Chris

[Landscaper]

Ok,

Juvanescence: your design is stylish and modern but it just seems like it needs a little something, maybe the box around it I'm not sure.

Bethie: I like the font but the tree is not really telling everyone what we do.


Chris: I like the font adjustment but I think the "A" needs to be out of the box. I like the 3 season idea but symbols are kind of simple maybe something with a little more jump (maybe its their colors).

Thanks Jeff

[CBaker14]

Cool... I'll make some color changes and remove the boxed "A"
Have something soon...

Chris

[CBaker14]

Hey, see if these colors work for you...

Chris

[Bill]

Here's my entry...

[Landscaper]

Chris
I don't like that many colors, two will be fine. Maybe a hunter green and a maroon, or maybe you can come up with two other colors that will pop, but not look rainbowish. One of the two colors will be incorporated into our uniforms. I do like the first design that we discussed with the icons on the left and the A not in the box. Do you have any other icons that are more modern and sleek. Think sophisticated, modern, sharp looking. See what you can come up with.

Bill
I like the idea of going with the icon look. However, these icons will not work for us. I think that they are to cartoonish for me. Look to the comments above for a better idea of what I want. Again I'd like to keep it simple and classy looking.

Thanks for all the hard work, I think we'll get there eventually. Getting across what I'm looking for is difficult, so hang in there with me. :)

[CBaker14]

Will give it another go around, will repost in the A.M.

Chris

[Tonya]

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[Landscaper]

dynagirl
I like the modernism of this design, but it doesn't portray all that we do. I need the logo/icon to include lawn maintenace, landscape and snow removal. See what you can do.

[CBaker14]

Landscaper...

How is this...I changed the icons and colors....also changed the layout...
Let me know your thoughts...

Chris

[VisualSense]

Here's a previously designed "scheme" that has yet to be picked up.
I figured I'd see what you thought of it :)
-Diane

[Landscaper]

Chris
I like this design, it is more along the lines of what I am looking for, it needs something to tie it together and I liked the previously used icons better. I also do not like the burgundy color. See if you can work with these suggestions.

Diane
This is also along the lines of what I am looking for. Could I see it in a different color and can you change the snowflake design to a different snowflake. Looks good, I like the line I think it ties the design together.

Tonya
I can't view your design

[CBaker14]

Landscaper.

No problem, I'll go back to the original icons and find some design elements that will tie it all together...

Thanks,

Chris

[CBaker14]

Here, try these two and see what you think...

Thanks,

Chris

[VisualSense]

Here's the revisions... a few different color combos and each logo has a different snowflake for you to choose from :)
-Diane

[Landscaper]

Chris
I am not liking the icon placement and I need the logo to include landscape, maintenace and snow removal. I keep going back to one of the original designs that you did for me. It was the 2nd design from the March 1st, 10:43 posting. I really like this layout, it just looks a little "woodsy" but I do like the idea. Could you make this design a little more sophisticated and modern. I want it to pop! Thanks

Diane
Thanks for the color suggestions, but I didn't really like them. What I would like to see is these seperate designs:
1. The original brown/black color scheme with the snowflake from the light blue design.
2. The original design with the "swirl" done in the highlighted fashion that you showed in the green design.
3. The original design done with the above two suggestions in burgundy and any other color that you may think of.

Thanks for all of your time.

[Juvanescence]

Changes plus a new logo for your consideration.

[VisualSense]

The original design and the one posted below are done using an orange and black color. Is it looking like brown? Monitor color calibration might be a problem. You're best bet (when you decide to get printed materials) is to view a Pantone Chart at your print shop. That will allow you to see the "actual" colors that are to be used. Monitor colors are not typically reliable. :)

Anyway, here's the changes... the top 2 are orange and black and the last one is a burgandy and a golden yellow.

-Diane

[Landscaper]

juvanescence
I don't like the font. See if you can do something different that includes
landscape, maintenance and snow removal.
Thanks

Diane
Thanks for the changes we're moving in the right direction. Can you show me one with the highlighted swirl done in burgundy and silver or maybe metallic? I'm just not completly sold on the color.
Thanks

[VisualSense]

Here's the logo in burgandy and grays with a bit of the metallic look added.
Let me know what you think..
-Diane

[Landscaper]

Diane
I really like the first burgundy and silver design. I think we have a finalist. I would like to see just two more designs.
1. Could you show me different shovels?
2. I would like to see the raindrop in blue, the grass in green, the shovel black and the snowflake white. Just to see what it looks like with a variety. See what you can do, I look forward to seeing this. Thanks

Tonya
do you have anything new?

[Tonya]

<img src='http://www.frobo.com/graphic_work/advanced/advanced2.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

[CBaker14]

See if this is working for you...

Chris

[Landscaper]

Chris: the last one you submitted is nice, let's try to change the orange color on the leaf, make the font wider and add some lines or a circle to bring the whole thing together.

[VisualSense]

Here's the logo with a few different shovels... I'd originally gone with the small hand shovel because it fit nicely within the circle... as you can see, if I use a larger shovel the handles will hang out of the circle or the shovel will be much smaller than the graphics within the other circles.

The last done is done in the different colors. I also change the color inside the circle because the colors kinda clashed on the gray/burgandy circle.

Let me know what you think..

-Diane

[CBaker14]

will be posting the revision u asked for soon...

Chris

[CBaker14]

how about these? I went back to the maroon color for the leaf square....

Chris

[Landscaper]

Chris
I like the last one that you submitted. Could you show me how it would look in a business card form. Also, maybe some different fonts. I do like the idea.

dyna girl
I like the concept. I don't like the leaf design, the icons are to large, they over power the name and the colors need to be changed, I'm not that fond of them, but you're heading in the right direction.

Diane
your absolutly right about the shovel. I still really like the burgundy and silver design, but we also like the last design with the icons in the different colors. Could we see this last design with the words in a few different colors? On this design, I don't like the burgundy letters.

I think these designs are great with a little "tweeking" we should be able to pick a winner earlier than the deadline. It's going to be hard to choose. Thanks for the hard work and dedication to helping us.

[Carl]

Here is another idea for you.

Carl...

[VisualSense]

Here's the burgandy/silver version and a couple with different color combos...
Let me know what you think. :)
-Diane

[CBaker14]

Hey,

I'll post some different uses for this design soon...

Chris

[Landscaper]

Wow you guys are doing an excellent job!!! There have been some great ideas. Thank You very much for all your hard work. We are getting there.

Carl: I like the idea of putting all the icons in the circle I just not sure about the style of the icons in there. I like the grass but, the other 3 my need to be changed. I'm not too crazy about the font either...see what you can do but the basic concept is there!

Diane: You are there...you have been great thank you. We like the original burg and silver but the blue middle logo on you last post has peaked our interest also. I know you have playing with colors but could we maybe try a green swoosh and font or something else. Your taste seems to be similar to ours and maybe you could just try something you think looks good....for some reason I still think it lacks something simple to complete that "POP"...see what you can do for us..

OK wife said PS to Diane: notice the quotes :lol2: " I like the green and light brown in the middle logo could we please see the same design in using those two colors. I think we may be able to use those colors in our uniforms." ;)

Thank You
Jeff

[Carl]

I have revised the icon circle and changed fonts. I have also shown a few variations.

Carl...

[Landscaper]

Carl: very neat... We like the the third one down but the colors have too much of a pastel look. Try with some different color combs please. Also with a a font that is not so bold.

Thanks
Jeff

[VisualSense]

not a problem :)
Here's the logo with the dark green combined with other colors. I've done one in the tan/green.
-Diane

[CBaker14]

Hey, here is the design in a card format, Understand I had no way of knowing how you would want it laid out so I just used a generic type layout...

Chris

[Landscaper]

Chris: let's try to move the icons under the Advanced Services. The layout is just not doing it for us.

Diane: could we please try a different symbol for in place of the grass symbol.

Carl: we are still waiting for a change from the pastel colors

Thanks
Jeff

[Carl]

Jeff,

Sorry for the delay. I am working on it as I type this.

Should have something soon.

Carl...

[Carl]

Jeff,

Here you go.

Carl...

[Landscaper]

Carl: Thanks, we are getting there... Lets try to move the logo maybe bw the words Advanced Services. I just think that it is sticking out there in limbo. Also change the color from brown to burgundy.

Thanks
Jeff

[Landscaper]

Here is a picture of the side of one of our trucks. Maybe we can see some of these logos on the truck.

Jeff

[Carl]

Jeff,

Updates to logo.

Carl...

[Carl]

Jeff,

As it may look on a truck.

Carl...

[Landscaper]

diane and chris
could you also put your logos on the truck
Thanks

[CBaker14]

sure, will post soon...

[VisualSense]

Here's a couple different grass icons.....
-Diane

[VisualSense]

On the truck :)
-Diane

[CBaker14]

here u go...

[Landscaper]

Carl: the logo looks good. I dont care for the font and I think it needs to be bigger. Also can we try to change the font color trying a few different colors including green.

Thanks
Jeff

[Landscaper]

chris: I was wondering if you still have the logo from march 2 ( the first logo you did)? If you do could we put that on the truck also?

Thanks
Jeff

[CBaker14]

Landscaper...

Which one from March 2...
the one with the "A" in a box or the multicolored boxes?

Chris

[Landscaper]

The multi color one...

[Carl]

Jeff,

Here are the updates. Changed the font to a more classic look.

Colors here: Green / Plum / Blue

Carl...

[Carl]

Jeff,

Here is a truck view of the update.

I wasn't sure how your vehicle graphics are produced, so in this version I am showing the icons in one color, to accomodate possible vinyl production.

Carl...

[Landscaper]

Well, we have seen some very good ideas and I am going to be honest with all of you. Up until we the logos on the truck we were very partial to Diane's logo (either maroon and silver or green and tan). Now that we have seen them on the truck we are leaning towards Carl's latest design.

Diane: could we keep the idea the same and do something else with the logo. Not too much just a little tweak. Not sure what it is but it just isn't jumping out at you from the truck. We really like the words and the swoosh but on the truck the icons get lost.

Carl: There is some thing about the icon in the logo that is not getting us. Seems that maybe the logo looks too "cartoonish". Maybe mix it up a little, change the backround color or even separate the seasons? Just can't put my finger on it.

Chirs: still would like to see your 3/2/04 multi color design on the truck.

Also, could you put your designs on a shirt.

Thanks
Jeff

[DesignGeneral]

I can have something today if u accepting new entries :)

[CBaker14]

Cool..wasn't sure which design , I'll post today...

Thanks,

Chris

[Landscaper]

Go ahead Master, we would like a new entry. We have until the 19th of this month.

[DesignGeneral]

here we go...

[DesignGeneral]

one small change and posted on the truck

[DesignGeneral]

and without the squares ...

[Landscaper]

General
I like your ideas and the second photo on the truck with the lawn, maintenance, etc. in block, but play with the icon placements I feel like they are out in limbo. They either need to be moved or tied together some way. Also, do you have anything new or different than just the icons. We originally thought that was the way to go, but are not really sure now since we have seen them on the truck.

[CBaker14]

Landscaper...

Here is the version you wanted to see on the truck

Chris

[Landscaper]

Diane
I really like your design. The lettering, the swoosh and the word placement looks great, but the icons just don't look that great to me. I don't know if you can play around with the placement, or do something different with them. Although I like the icons, I just can't put my finger on what it is that I don't like about them on the truck. See if you can come up with something- I look forward to seeing something soon.
Thanks

[DesignGeneral]

what about this?

[Landscaper]

General: It's better but, we would like to see the icons changed. We are pretty open to other ideas than just the three icons. Maybe something totally different than the leaf, grass, and snowflake.

[DesignGeneral]

what about this?

[CBaker14]

How did you like the multicolored design on the truck door?

Chris

[Landscaper]

General: We are moving in the wrong direction here. I like the idea of a change but its not what we are looking for.


Chris: Maybe we can make the icons smaller and change the color of the font.

Jeff

[DesignGeneral]

Thanks for feedback Jeff.

I'll be back with another concept :)

[VisualSense]

Here's a variation on the logo....
-Diane

[Carl]

Jeff,

here you go.

Carl...

[Carl]

truck...

[Carl]

shirt...

[Landscaper]

Carl: lets try to use green instead of the burgundy and replace the rain drop with a leaf or two and make the snowflake white.

Jeff

[Landscaper]

Diane: Ok we will try to explain two more ways to do this without confusing ourselves and you.....1) your original logo with the four icons was great. We like the double swoosh on the left side. If you could change the grass type, ditch the raindrop and then move the icons to the left (or center of the logo) and add a double swoosh to the right side. 2)on your latest design....ditch the raindrop , change the grass type and add the shovel back in making all the icons the same size. The order should be grass, shovel and snowflake.

I hope this makes sense.

Jeff

[Carl]

Jeff,

One question, you referenced making the snowflake white. It already is white. Are the lines in the snowflake getting lost in the background?

Once I hear back from you I will post the revision.

Thanks!
Carl...

[Carl]

Jeff,

Ok, I didn't wait, and just reworked the snowflake to make it less detailed.

Here are your revisions.

Carl...

[DesignGeneral]

what about this?

[Landscaper]

Carl
I like the snowflake and leaves, but I don't like the grass. Can I see two designs. One with the grass on the bottom in just blades,not with that big white oval , if that is possible and the other one with our name not in the block.

Diane
I still really like your concept and the wording, swoosh, is there anything else you can do with the icons?

Thanks

[DesignGeneral]

Some comments regarding my last design?

Color scheme can be easily changed if you feel there are too many colors

[Landscaper]

General: It is a neat idea. I don't really like the twig in the center maybe we can find a different one for that. Also lets try and take "Advanced Services" and place it right through the double circle icon with the words landscape, maint. and snow removal remaining there.

Jeff

[DesignGeneral]

Hi Jeff,

Thanks for feedback.

I don't wanted to be a twig there.:) I wanted to be a leaf look at the shape made by the intersection of circles. Maybe my coloring wasn't too suggestive. I will play with it and be back shortly.

[Landscaper]

General: Im sorry, now that you said it I went back and looked at it and I see what you are talking about. It is neat idea maybe try it in another color?

Jeff

[Carl]

Jeff,

Here are some revisions for you, playing with the circle a little bit in the bottom logo.

Carl...

[Landscaper]

CARL
THE GRASS LOOKS MUCH BETTER. I LIKE THE LAST DESIGN, COULD YOU PUT THE LOGO INBETWEEN THE ADVANCED SERVICES, LEAVING THE REST OF IT ALONE. ALSO, PUT IT ON THE TRUCK.
THANKS

[Carl]

Jeff,

I did two different options for placing the logo in between the words.

Let me know what you think!

Thanks!
Carl...

[DesignGeneral]

revision...

[DesignGeneral]

with black circles ...

[DesignGeneral]

different coloring to match better with your truck ;)

[Landscaper]

General: Much better! Lets tweak it a little in a few different ways.
1) Lets try to make the logo smaller and place the words "advanced services" right over the top of it.

2) on a separate one lets take the sun out put the blue snowflakes in place of it and put a tree where the snow and snowflake were.

Thanks
Jeff

[DesignGeneral]

Thanks Jeff. I'll be back :)

[VisualSense]

Sorry it took so long to post, got a little swamped :)
Here's the requested revisions....
-Diane

[Landscaper]

Diane: We were worried we lost one of our finalist....lol. Could you please put them on the truck for us.

[DesignGeneral]

here are few options...

[Landscaper]

Diane
I like the burgundy revision, can I see that design in green on the truck?

General
I want to see the design inbetween the advanced services and also I would like to see the name advanced services running thru the design.

Thanks

[VisualSense]

Here's the green version on the truck...
-Diane

[Landscaper]

Ok we are getting close, I just need to see a few more things.

Carl: Your #1 post on March 14, 2004 We really like but could you put it in a font that is a little more modern, and then put back on the truck.

Diane: Your design has been a finalist from the get go we would just like to see your March 9, post in blue on the truck. It is the center blue logo.

Thank You
Jeff

[VisualSense]

Not a problem.... :)
-Diane

[Carl]

Jeff,

Here are two different typefaces.

I went with a more modern serif face and a clean, sans serif face.

Carl...

[Landscaper]

Diane
We like the green on the truck. One other idea, could you play with the three icons a little. I like where they are above the name and I like the "swooshes". Maybe move the icons closer together, or inter twine them. See what you can do, it's looking good.
Jeff

[DesignGeneral]

revisions

[Landscaper]

OKAY, We really appreciate all of the hard work that all of you have put into this. The designs and the response that we got was fabulous. However, we have shown the designs to several people and we have finally narrowed it down to two designs--The one by Diane and the one by Carl

Diane:
Can we see-
1. The double swoosh in blue and green (green and green or green and tan. I do not like the neon green), with different symbols. Maybe a snowtruck, a tree, etc. Play with the icons. I want something that shows that we are more a commercial business. Although I like the icons, input has told us that it looks to "fufuy" for lack of a better word. (green we like is pms349c)
2. Also, in a second design could you play with the icon placement, and change the shovel icon to a tree.
Finally, we want to see them on the truck.

Carl
The circle in the middle. Could you outline it in black, keeping the interior background grey. Then seperate the inside into three or four sections putting an icon in each section ( like in your earlier designs) I also liked when you had the snowflake and the water droplet falling out of the circle. We liked the icons in different colors again as before, but we didn't like the yellow leaf. The placement of the words, the circle itself and the black line is great keep that as is.
Finally, we want to see it on the truck.

[Carl]

Jeff,

Which of my revisions is my starting point for these changes?

Thanks!
Carl...

[Landscaper]

Carl: The last post (March 16 1st logo). This is the one we would like to see the changes on.

Thanks
Jeff

[Carl]

Jeff,

Here it is! Hope you like it.

Carl...

[VisualSense]

ok, here are the requested changes. Doing an "icon" of a snow plow is proving difficult. Once it's sillouetted it's hard to even tell what it is. I've tried several styles. I've changed the green to 349.
-Diane

[Landscaper]

Carl: lets try something other than the black cross to separate these icons.

Diane: Let's put two of the icons on both sides the word services and leave 1 at the top center position. So basically there will be one icon on each side of the two S's in the word services. (Second green logo) and one at the top.

Thanks
Jeff

[Carl]

Jeff,

Here are four other options.

I purposely am limiting the number of colors and not using gradients because you are considering the logo for vehicle graphics. Generally they are done with vinyl and you are limited to spot colors when doing them.

If that limitation doesn't exist, and you are having Full Color decals made for the vehicles, I can explore some more significant changes to the way the 4 icons are seperated.

Thanks!
Carl...

[Landscaper]

Carl:
we like the second one down can you put it on the truck please.
Thanks Jeff

[Carl]

Jeff,

Here you go.

Carl...

[Landscaper]

carl
One last thing. The colors on the grey although reallly nice, they don't pop on the truck. Could you do the same icons, all in white on the green background like the one that was posted on March 16. That circle really stands out on the truck.
Thanks

[Landscaper]

Well guys today is the day......I would just like to see the last revisions requested before we take a day to make our final decision.

Thank You
Jeff

[VisualSense]

Here's the logo with the requested changes.... I've also done one a different layout for you to review.
-Diane

[Carl]

Jeff,

I have been busy all day, but will work on the revisions now.

I should have something in the next hour or so.

Carl...

[Carl]

Jeff,

Here you go.

I put two treatments, incorporating the gray into the section breaks for the icons and one without.

Carl...

[Landscaper]

Hello all:
Sorry that we haven't had a chance to post anything lately, we have been extremely busy. We would like to thank all of you who have posted and revised and revised again. Your ideas and designs were all just wonderful, we had a very difficult time deciding.
However, we have decided on a winner.
We have chosen Carl's design from the post on March 16, design B.
(Carl, we want the March 16 design, but we want it in the green from the last post and we need one with our phone number on it contact us as landscapeguys@comcast.net).
We will be out of town until April 5, so we'll chat then.

Congratulations to Carl and Again thanks to you all.
Advanced Services

[Carl]

Jeff,

Thanks! :D I look forward to working with you to finalize everything.

I will let the moderators know to move this to the revisions forum and will contact you via email to get the artwork taken care of.

Carl...

[Landscaper]

Hi Carl,

We are back in town and would like to get the logo wrapped up. If you could place our phone number on the winning design and post it (586) 268-0803, we would apprecaite it. I am not sure how this works but we will be putting this on our trucks, trailers, shirts , hat, letterhead, business cards and envelopes. So we will need both the one with and without the phone number. Let me know what you need.

Jeff

[Carl]

Jeff,

I will do both versions. My normal process is to upload a ZIP file to my server which contains .AI, .EPS, .TIFF, .JPG, layerd .PSD, .GIF and .PNG files. I can also burn a CD and drop it in th email to you, if you prefer. Just let me know if you need that.

I will be working on the files and should have them posted this evening.

FYI - all the file formats listed should cover the bases for you for everything that you would need to have printed.

Carl...

[Landscaper]

Carl,

That would be fine just let me know how to download the zip file when we are ready.

Thanks
Jeff

[Carl]

Jeff,

I was having server issues last night, but everything is fixed. Will have your file posted tonight.

Carl...

[Carl]

Jeff,

Files sent.

I sent you an email to the Comcast account you listed for the location of the file.

Let me know if everything comes through OK.

Carl...

[Landscaper]

Carl,

I know you are busy and hate to bother you but I was hoping to have the phone number just underneath the logo without the second line and maybe a little larger( not much). If you could do that I would greatly appreciate it. Just let me know when I can upload that revision.

Thanks
Jeff

[Carl]

Jeff,

*edit text* see next post

Carl...

[Carl]

Jeff,

I will actually wait for your approval on the revision.

Here is the logo with number.

Carl...

[Landscaper]

Carl,

Perfect!!!!!!!

[Carl]

File uploaded.

The link is in your Comcast email.

Carl...

[Landscaper]

Carl,

I know you probably are busy but I was hoping you could help us here. Our sign folks as well as our printer have told us that our logo is great (kudos to you for a great job). However, we are having a problem because the logo seems to be "long". What I mean is that when we are trying to place it on the trucks and on business cards we can't get the company name big enough before it exceeds the area which we have to work with. The letters seem to be too small (height) before we run out of room lengthwise. Can we change the font to be bigger but closer together or do something else to solve this problem without messing with a great thing. I hope you can understand what I just explained, and if there is an additional charge to tweak this then please let me know. We just want this to work for us and be noticed from a distance.

Thanks Jeff :tup: :tup: :tup:

[Carl]

Jeff,

I am sorry to hear that you have had these problems.

I will work with you to find a good solution.

I do have to ask, are you using a designer for your business cards, or is your print shop doing the layout?

For your trucks, what is the exact size of the space you have to place the logo? Knowing that will give me a better idea of how to adjust the text for maximum visibility of your logo.

We will get this right for you!

We can work through this forum, or via regular email. It is up to you. If you can PM me your email address again and I will send stuff to you that way.

Let me know.

Carl...

[Landscaper]

Carl,

I appreciate your willingness to work with me on this, Thank You. I will try to send you additional business when I can. Thank Again.

The print shop is laying out the business card. As for the truck logos the smallest area we have to work with is 32.5" wide by 13 " high. The others are a little larger at 43" wide by 16" high. When it was setup by my sign guy our name ended up being only two inches high in order to fit it into the area we have. We would like to increase it to 2.5 or even 3.

Let me know what else you need and I will get it to you right away. Because time is important I will check back several times a day. I also think this forum would be the simplist way to get this done if that is ok with you.

Thanks Again
Very Much
Jeff

[Carl]

Jeff,

Here is an updated version. I was able to make the letters in your name 3.44" tall by compressing the text spacing and increasing the height of the letters slightly.

Let me know what you think.

Carl...

[Landscaper]

That seem like would work. If you email me that it would be wonderful.

Thanks
Jeff

[Carl]

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