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jeremyconner
03-03-2004, 12:22 PM
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I'm starting up an internet-based consulting company and need a great looking logo to kick things off! I've seen the work you folks are capable of and know you can get it done! Please bear in mind that this is my first contest, so take it easy on me if I mess things up or don't do things right the first time around!

The deadline for this competition is March 17...I don't know how this works, but is this too long or too short? I don't want to keep it alive forever, but don't want to rush stuff either. Could someone provide feedback on the length? It might change just a bit...but not too much!

The company is called "Infosymmetry". We're a consulting company that does a variety of things, some of which are as follows: Network setup, analysis, maintenance</li> Programming - web and windows development using VB6, ASP, ASP.NET, VB.NET, Crystal Reports</li> Database administration, support, analysis</li> General information systems management - networking, email, data, reporting</li>As you can see, we're basically going to provide our expertise to anyone that needs it. We are a group of technical experts with skills in many areas of technology and will be partnered with a group of web developers, flash developers, ad agencies and so forth to provide companies with the ability to use technology to it's fullest.

We did some work with a creative consultant and came up with "Infosymmetry" because it really represents what we want to do - which is to allow people to capture, manage, and ultimately make sense of their information. We think information is powerful and that it will benefit any company that uses it. So the "Info" is for information, and the "symmetry" is indicative of what we hope to do, which is to bring order to your information so that you can see what it's trying to tell you. We work with all information systems - networks, email, databases, applications, reports - so we're really a technology consulting group.

What we're looking for in a logo is something that is cutting-edge, professional and useable on the web, stationary, t-shirts, or whatever. We'd like to have some sort of symbol included in the logo (if possible) so that we could use it without the company name if we wanted to (a cool symbol that would let people know that it's us without seeing our name and that could be used on shirts or other items that don't require the full name logo - know what I mean?). Basically, we'd like something more than just the name of the company. I don' t mean by this that we want 2 symbols, but perhaps the logo could contain something that we could break out and use by itself.

The bottom line is that we want people, when they see the logo, to think: That we're a professional company who's very serious about what we do</li> That we're on the cutting edge</li> That we're hip!</li> That we're not a stuffy, boring corporation.</li>In terms of colors, feel free to use what you like...I will tell you that we're looking for something really professional, so some colors might not fit the bill - for example, something pink would not work! Ideally, the logo would also look good in a black and white, or grayscale, color - something that we could print in a newspaper for example. Edgy colors, professional colors, stuff like this is all fair game. Also note that by edgy, I don't mean grungy...it still needs to be professional.

Having said all of this...we're totally open to any ideas, and will look at anything you have. The name is a tough one to pin a logo on, so feel free to be creative and go outside the box if you'd like. Just remember...edgy, professional, and perhaps a symbol or identifying mark.

If you'll let me know, I can provide you with more information...I'm not sure how much you need, but will give you whatever information I can.

Good luck guys! I'll be sure to provide feedback as quickly as I possibly can!

Jeremy Conner

jeremyconner
03-03-2004, 12:45 PM
Sorry gang...forgot file formats. I'll need vectored art...Adobe Illustrator or EPS.

CBaker14
03-03-2004, 01:05 PM
Ill be trying this out.....post something soon...

Chris

Just J
03-03-2004, 01:31 PM
Trying something simple first.

Jason

jeremyconner
03-03-2004, 01:51 PM
Thanks for the work Blackspot!

This isn't really the direction I was hoping to go. I really don't care for the use of the letters in the logo the way that you have them. I'm not saying that letters can't be used, but this particular logo isn't the style I'm wanting. This particular logo kind of reminds me of Tommy Hilfiger (spelling?) - not a bad thing on the whole, but I'd like to be a bit more edgy and would like a bit more detailed logo.

I like the fact that you had a symbol that could be used without the word "infosymmetry" - that's something we really want if possible.

The colors you picked are very formal (in my opinion), which isn't a bad thing...but I'd like to see a little more color than this. Of course, color can be easily changed...the main issue here is the design, which just doesn't fit what we're looking for.

SORRY! I really do appreciate your work and hope you'll try again.

Just J
03-03-2004, 01:55 PM
SORRY! I really do appreciate your work and hope you'll try again.
No need to be sorry!!
When I'm not sure about direction, I first do what I like, get feedback, then do what you (hopefully) like ;) .
I will keep working.

Jason

Bill
03-03-2004, 02:06 PM
Here's my entry...

CBaker14
03-03-2004, 02:11 PM
Hey,

Here is my stab at this...you said we could try something different, so I did...:)

Let me know what you think...

Chris

jeremyconner
03-03-2004, 07:02 PM
Pennyln:

I like the font you used, and the variations on the font (bold, colors, thickness) and I also like the idea you had.

I don't really like the look of the mirrored text (although it was a really good idea and demonstrates that you understand what we meant with the name), but I do like the little guy in there. If we were to go with a logo that were primarily text, this is sort of what we'd be looking for - a variation on the text with a small graphic or symbol of some kind that was somewhere in the text.


Cbaker14:

Unfortunately, I don't think this is really the look we're going for. It has all the necessary components...the company name AND a symbol that's unique...but it's a bit "blocky" for me. Is that even a word? :) Basically, it's not really crisp enough and is a bit too gaudy for the type of image we want to portray.

Thank you both for your work! I hope you'll continue to develop! If I can give you more feedback, just let me know and I'll be glad to!

I should have done this at the start, but here is a .jpg of some logos that I like and that have the type of professional, yet hip feel to them. I'm not saying I want a carbon copy of one of these, but it's just a way to give you a feel for the type of logo that I'm picturing...(I hope it's ok to post this image...if not, I'm SO SORRY!)

Tried to attach the image...hope it works...if not, check out some logos on www.coolhomepages.com - they all came from there. (hope url posting is ok too...)

Jeremy

CBaker14
03-03-2004, 07:06 PM
No problem, just trying to get a jumping off point...I 'll make some revisions and complete changes and will repost soon...Thanks for the feedback..

Chris

Mowling
03-03-2004, 07:58 PM
Hello Jeremy...here is a concept...let me know of any changes that you would like.


thanks,
M@

jeremyconner
03-04-2004, 05:36 AM
Mowling:

This is definitely going in the right direction. I like what you did with the half circle and the "I". Something like that would look good on a t-shirt or in a flash intro or whatever we wanted to do with it.

I think it needs to be more exciting though...not sure exactly what I mean by that, but maybe you could add some flare to it? It's a good start, but a bit too plain the way it is. The "I" is a good idea, but because it looks plain it loses some of it's cool. I don't mind using a letter instead of a symbol of some sort, but it would have to be really sharp and worked in to the overall logo well. For example, if we were to use the letter "I", I'd want it to signify something by the way it looked or have some sort of design idea incorporated with it. I don't want to use it simply because it's the first letter in the company name, but if you made it clear that the "I" was there for another reason as well (such as signifying information, which may be what you intended) then it could be cool. Same for the word "infosymmetry" - I like the layout, but its just there, ya know? I have no idea how you could jazz it up, but that's because I have no skills! Just some thoughts...thank you very much for your work! If you need more feedback let me know.

Sorry for the delayed response...wasn't able to log in last night due to a sick baby! I'll be checking in during the day to see what everyone has been posting!

Thanks!

Jeremy

Mowling
03-04-2004, 05:46 AM
Yeah...I got you...I know exactly what you mean... I will work on it tonight.

thanks,
M@

Just J
03-04-2004, 10:22 AM
Jeremy,
I know this is not what you want (only the icon is symmetric and it's a little stiff) but I had to get it out of my system. ;)

Jason

jeremyconner
03-04-2004, 10:56 AM
Blackspot:

While I don't really like the big "I", I do think that you may be on to something in terms of having the company name spelled out and then adding some sort of effect (or drawing or whatever) to one part of the word or the other. I like how your design left the word together and at the same time differentiated between the two parts.

I agree with what you said about this being a bit "stiff". It's not quite what I'm looking for, but if you so desired you could continue along the lines of somehow accentuating part of the word (besides just making part of it bold or italics or a different font - that's good but by itself isn't enough). Perhaps something creative on one part of the name could suffice instead of some sort of symbol.

This is getting closer to the type of thing we're looking for...thanks for the work!

Raja
03-04-2004, 11:13 AM
'Sup, an abstract play on 'I' and 's'....

jeremyconner
03-04-2004, 11:32 AM
Raja:

That looks good! I like the idea used in your abstraction, and the entire logo has a clean feel to it. I like the color and the font too. Early on in the contest and we have a contender!

I'm not sure what to tell you at this point...I like this logo and will show it to my partners. I really can't think of anything to do to improve on this logo right now - let me think about it, get some feedback from others, and then let you know.

Great job! This is certainly going to be in the running!

Just J
03-04-2004, 11:35 AM
Jeremy,
I'll see what I can come up with.

Raja... :tup: Very nice!

Jason

JaysonC
03-04-2004, 11:40 AM
Jeremy,

An icon for you

jeremyconner
03-04-2004, 12:08 PM
Fuse:

A couple of things on your design. I like the colors that you used and after seeing both your and Raja's designs I think I like the idea that you both had for some sort of slogan under the company name in a smaller font. I don't want it to say "consulting", but some other creative slogan would be great in a location similar to what you and Raja have done.

One thing I'm trying to avoid with this logo is the use of the letter "I" like you would see it on a road sign or web site as an information symbol (like the normal blue circle with an I in the middle). It makes sense to use it, but it's been done so much that I don't think people see it as cutting edge anymore. Yours isn't this type of symbol, but it resembles it closely enough and I'd like to keep away from that if possible.

Also, I like to try to stay away from fonts that look like Times New Roman. Just a personal thing!

Maybe you could keep the circle to the left of the name, but do something different with the "I" or put some other type of symbol in there and change the font. Of course, feel free to do anything you think is cool...these are just a few quick thoughts on your initial design

Thanks!

Jeremy

Just J
03-04-2004, 12:14 PM
Thinking out loud again (seemed to work last time). Trying to come up with a symbol that represents "symmetry".

Jason

CBaker14
03-04-2004, 12:26 PM
jeremy...

Here is my second attempt, with a more iconic design element...let me know what you think...

Chris

jeremyconner
03-04-2004, 03:27 PM
Blackspot:

I like the variation on the text color and the fact that you're thinking in terms of a symbol to go with it. For the text, I'd rather see the letters a bit closer together and a different font (something that looks a bit less like a Times New Roman type of font). The colors are pretty good though...perhaps a darker color on the "symmetry" part - something a bit more orange or red?

I'm not crazy about the symbol though...I see what you're going for with it, but it just doesn't do anything for me. I'm not sure what I really don't like about it...perhaps a bit too plain?

Sorry for the lack of good feedback - I can't really pin it down, but this just doesn't do it for me.

Cbaker:

Sorry man...I'm just not into the silhouette. It looks strange to me. This one really doesn't work. I'm really sorry!

Just J
03-04-2004, 03:30 PM
Sorry for the lack of good feedback
Your feedback is GREAT!! :tup:
I didn't think you'd like it so I'm still working on it for you.

Jason

Just J
03-04-2004, 03:42 PM
Any better?

Jason

CBaker14
03-04-2004, 03:50 PM
jeremy,

no problem...Just was trying a different run at it...I'll try something else...post soon

CBaker14
03-04-2004, 06:47 PM
jeremy,

How about these attempts, I tried going with something abstract/obscure, but eye catching...
Let me know what you think...

Chris

Mowling
03-04-2004, 08:20 PM
Jeremy here are some new concepts...let me know of any revisions you would like.

thanks,
Matt

jeremyconner
03-05-2004, 05:15 AM
Jason:

I'm still not crazy about the symbol...sorry! It's just too plain as it is now. It needs something else besides the basic shapes. Also, could you go with a more "rounded" type of font? Probably not the right designer term for what I mean, but basically a font that's more like arial and less like Times new roman - know what I mean?

Chris:

I'm really sorry, but I'm just not into any of those designs. I really appreciate your effort though!

Matt:

Those are interesting...I like the one on the bottom the most. I like the font and I like the shape around the name.

Maybe you could remove the mirror effect on the text, and try to do something else with the word "info" or with that section of the logo - perhaps a color differentiation in the shape itself between the two parts - so that, for example, the slimmer portion behind the word "symmetry" would be a darker color or something. And perhaps instead of the mirror effect on the word "info" you could try another effect. I don't know if these are good ideas or not, but you may be onto something here with the bottom design.

Thanks for the work gang!

Jeremy

jeremyconner
03-05-2004, 05:18 AM
Raja:

I showed a few folks the logo you designed, and they liked it. My partner had a suggestion and I wondered if you could try it. He suggested moving the single dot on the right hand side up one level, so that you would be left with 2 dots on the top row (one middle, one right), one in the middle row and 2 on the bottom (one left and one middle). Then, change the middle row dots to all red and the two out dots to a single color as well (either yellow or orange).

If you are interested, could you make this change so we could see what it would look like?

Thanks!

Jeremy

CBaker14
03-05-2004, 05:23 AM
jeremy,

Thats cool, but what are you looking for, I have checked out the past posts and can't seem to get my head around what direction you are wanting to go in...is it more iconic, abstract? Just trying to narrow the field some...

Thanks,

Chris

Just J
03-05-2004, 06:36 AM
Jeremy,
New fonts, let me know which, if any, you like. I'm still working on some type of symbol for you as well.

Jason

jeremyconner
03-05-2004, 07:03 AM
Chris:

I'm not sure how to describe what we're looking for...I don't know if you saw one of my earlier posts where I included some existing logos that have the look and feel that we're going for, but those are the type of thing we're looking for. One of the reasons I came here to do the contest instead of paying a design co. to do it was that I knew it would be tough - it's a weird name and a tough concept, and I thought that having more folks look at it would be good. I hear what you're saying in terms of us having different visions on the logo...I just wish I could give you something more to go on. I'm hoping you guys will have some ideas on what to do with it that I haven't even thought of yet. I will tell you that Raja is closest so far to the type of thing we're looking for.

Jason:

I like font C pretty well and font A is ok...but would like something a bit thicker. Not IMPACT thick but something similar to the font that Raja used. The spacing between the letters could be less too - that would improve the look, I think.

Just J
03-05-2004, 07:59 AM
Jeremy,
I used the font you liked but left it thin. I think if I were to make it any thicker it would look too close to Raja's and added another fatter font for you to see.
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Raja,
If you think my design is too close (or even in the same ballpark) please let me know. I keep looking at them to make sure they are not close but I'm not sure. It's not the same design but I don't want to step on your toes.

Jason

CBaker14
03-05-2004, 08:15 AM
jeremy,

that's cool...Im going back thru some logo books I have to get "inspiration"...I'll get it another shot...

thanks,

Chris

Mowling
03-05-2004, 10:39 AM
Jeremy,
here is a concept...I come with at lunch...I have combined the "I" & "S" to form an abstract symbol...let me know of any revisions you would like.

thanks,
M@

jeremyconner
03-05-2004, 11:06 AM
Mowling:

I can' t tell you why, but I like this. It has a clean look to it...I like the font. If you had told me what you were going to do, I wouldn't have thought it would be good, but something about it appeals to me. (I didn't like the bottom one with the abstract image reflected - I'm speaking about the top 2)

I'm not sure what to think about the abstract part yet. Part of me likes it, as it's unique and I love the color and the way it fits the logo. Part of me says that it might be too abstract. I don't know which part of me is right yet! :)

Let me think about this latest one for a bit and get my partner to look at it...I like the font type and style that you used and I'm intrigued by the abstract part. I'm not sure what to think about it overall just yet.

Did you see my comments on your previous submission? I hope you're going to revisit that one a bit because I think it had potential.


Blackspot:

I like the top one better out of the two. I still think it needs something to make it stand out a bit more...not sure what.

Earlier you had a logo (the one with the circle around the word "info" and the large "I") that I thought might be going somewhere. I didn't like the "I" but I thought you might be able to do something with the word "info" in the circle (perhaps different color inside and something cool with the word) - not sure what you could do, but I got to looking back and remembered that one. It's just a thought...you do what you think works.

Thanks!

Jeremy

Just J
03-05-2004, 11:31 AM
How about this?

Jason

jeremyconner
03-05-2004, 11:41 AM
Jason:

That is definitely your best entry so far! I think you may be onto something with this. I have some revision ideas, but this is my favorite of your ideas so far.

I know I keep harping on it (sorry!) but I'd still like to see a different font here. I need something a bit stronger...and I'd put the letters closer together too. I don't know if you are able to do this because others did it as well, but I think this design is different enough that you might be able to try it. Don't get yourself in trouble though!

Maybe you can try a different pattern with the small circles, or use something instead of the circles...something that would symbolize data perhaps? With the circles at the top, the large circle around the word "Info" seems off center (it isn't but just feels that way).

I like the large circle around the word "Info". You could go with this, or you could try a few more shapes if you wanted to. I like the way it breaks up the company name.

Also, could you try some lighter colors in the circle?

Just J
03-05-2004, 11:47 AM
Maybe you can try a different pattern with the small circles, or use something instead of the circles...something that would symbolize data perhaps
LOL, that's what the circles represented!! :lol2:
I'll see what I can do for you.

BTW, Thanks fro the GREAT feedback. I would've been out of ideas long ago if it weren't for your feedback.

Jason

Raja
03-05-2004, 11:50 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-blackspot+Mar 5 2004, 10:59 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (blackspot @ Mar 5 2004, 10:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Jeremy,
I used the font you liked but left it thin. I think if I were to make it any thicker it would look too close to Raja's and added another fatter font for you to see.
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Raja,
If you think my design is too close (or even in the same ballpark) please let me know. I keep looking at them to make sure they are not close but I'm not sure. It's not the same design but I don't want to step on your toes.

Jason [/b][/quote]
all good, Jay.

it does remind of another logo I designed though :lol:

Just J
03-05-2004, 12:26 PM
Jeremy,
Just throwing things against the wall hoping something will stick ;) .
Let me know.

Raja,
it does remind of another logo I designed though&nbsp;
Oops! :lol2:

Jason

Hypnosis
03-05-2004, 01:04 PM
Hello Jeremy,

Nice seeing you again, here are a few trials within a different approach:

1. a flower symbolising company growth and different business solutions.
2. a very isometric visual matching the "symmetry' in the logo name
3. just a visual showing the missing piece. Which would be your consulting service which would add value to your client. Also it represents the one piece that makes the difference compared to the others.
4. just a different disposal of the 3rd one...

There jeremy, hope you like them, awaiting feedback...

Hyp!

jeremyconner
03-05-2004, 01:50 PM
Hey Hypnosis! Good to "see" you again! :)

I like the ideas you had on all but the second one. Here are a few thoughts on each design:

On the top design - I like the idea with the flower, but not the use of a flower. Is there something more "geeky" that you could use, or perhaps just a shape with some style to it? I liked that the petals were all fanning out and that one was a different color and involved in the name, but the flower is just not my style. Something with parts fanning out would be good though...not sure.

On the bottom 2 designs - I like the cube with the piece...but I like it either a) like you have it on the bottom close to the word and not on top, or B) somehow in the background or with the word somehow on top of or integrated into the shape? Hope that makes sense! I definitely like the word as one word though...not split in two as the bottom design has it. Maybe you can work the object you have and the company name together a bit more. I'm worried that putting it out beside the word will make the logo really long, but it doesn't look quite right on top - looks separate from the company name.

I'd like to see a different font if possible. People are getting sick of my font complaining I'm sure BUT...I like a more rounded type of font (don't know the best font, but something that looks more like a bolded arial than a times new roman or script font). Some of the other entries have great fonts in them (Raja and Mowling) - I don't know what they are, but stuff that has that look and feel to it is definitely where I want to go.

Thanks for the submissions!

Blackspot:

Let me get back to you on this...I'm not sure what to tell you about it. It still needs something, but I'm not sure what. Better font on these!

Just J
03-05-2004, 02:13 PM
Hi again Jeremy,
I had another idea that I wanted to share. It reminded me of a key and/or the power button on a computer. Still throwing stuff at the wall...

Jason

Mark
03-05-2004, 04:33 PM
Here's my entry. :)

jeremyconner
03-05-2004, 07:34 PM
Blackspot:

Best one you've done yet...I like it. I like the font and the basic design is good. Lets focus on this one...can you spice it up a bit? I'm not exactly sure how, but make it a little more exciting without changing the basics.

Markbeaudry

What a clever design! I like the colors, the font and the symbol. Not sure what to tell you right now...this one is really good. I likes it!

If I had to nitpick...two people who I've shown it to didn't get the IS part of it right away...of course, that's kind of what makes it cool in my opinion. But if I had to give you some feedback, maybe you could ever so subtly increase the visibility on the symbol?

Thanks!

Jeremy

jeremyconner
03-05-2004, 07:39 PM
CONTEST STATUS REPORT!

Well, only two days in and we've already got some good things going! I just wanted to post this to let everyone know that things are rolling along just fine. I appreciate all of the work so far!

With that said, there's still plenty of time to get in on the action! This contest is still up for grabs, so check out the specs and get creative! But bring your best stuff, because some of the entries that are already posted are good!

Thanks!

Jeremy Conner

Mark
03-05-2004, 08:05 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-jeremyconner+Mar 5 2004, 09:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (jeremyconner @ Mar 5 2004, 09:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> maybe you could ever so subtly increase the visibility on the symbol? [/b][/quote]
Do you mean larger in proportion to the text?

Just J
03-05-2004, 09:29 PM
I'm not exactly sure how, but make it a little more exciting without changing the basics.

Me either!! ;) :rolleyes: :lol:

I added some circles back in. I like it and it balanced it out a bit, but I'm not sure that you will like it. I will think about it for a while more.

Jason

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jeremyconner
03-06-2004, 07:35 AM
Markbeaudry:

No, I think the size of it is great just like it is. I guess I meant some way to make it easier to see the "s"- but without losing the subtlety (spelling?) of it. You can see the "I" in there because of the dot, but the "s" is a bit hard to pick up on at first. I have no idea how you would do it without losing the "cool" of the design, but it's something I've been requested to check out.

Either way this is a good design.


Blackspot:

I think you're right about the balance...it does need something else involving the word "symmetry" such as the dots you have. I look forward to seeing what you come up with.

One other idea I just had looking at your design...what if you replaced the circle with dots? In other words, had a circle of dots in the same location as the one you have now? Maybe they could end up fading out as they got near the "S" or something...not sure, and this may not even be a good idea. Then maybe a line or something on the top and bottom of the word "Symmetry". Just thinking off the top of my head - but keep a copy of this design as a starting point cause I don't want to lose it.

Just J
03-06-2004, 08:26 AM
Circles and fade.
Now I don't know which I like better ;) .
but keep a copy of this design as a starting point cause I don't want to lose it.
I have a copy of every design I've done for you. You should see my worksheet! :blink:

Jason

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Mark
03-06-2004, 08:30 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-jeremyconner+Mar 6 2004, 09:35 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (jeremyconner @ Mar 6 2004, 09:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You can see the "I" in there because of the dot, but the "s" is a bit hard to pick up on at first. I have no idea how you would do it without losing the "cool" of the design, but it's something I've been requested to check out. [/b][/quote]
Funny, I see the "s" before the "I" :lol: But then again, I designed it so maybe that's why. I really can't see how I can change it without ruining it, but I'll give it a try. I agree with your earlier comment that not seeing it right away makes it a cool design. Lets take Nike's swoosh for instance. I still don't know what the heck that is :lol: but in your case, at least you eventually can see what it is. ;)

Anyway, I'll see what I can do! :D

Cheers,
Mark

Mark
03-06-2004, 10:04 AM
Here's some alternative ideas. :)

jeremyconner
03-06-2004, 11:20 AM
Jason:

That looks pretty cool! I like the dot circle and the fade a lot. Can we try something else with the dots under "symmetry"? I like something else going on with "symmetry" but the dots there are too much (combined with the others). Sorry to keep bouncing you around so much!

Mark:

I think you're right...there's no way to change your original design without messing it up. I think the first one was cool and we probably shouldn't change it. I like it original...it's definitely a contender. If you have other ideas, PLEASE submit them as I would love to see it...but on this particular design, let's leave it alone for now.

Jeremy

Just J
03-06-2004, 11:35 AM
Hi Jeremy,
As much as I HATE to admit it, I think I'm stumped (BUT NOT DONE! ;) ). Since we still have some time, I will see what I can do with it after a little time goes by.
Sorry.

Jason

Bill
03-06-2004, 11:38 AM
Here's another shot!

Bill
03-06-2004, 11:47 AM
Here's another concept...

Mark
03-06-2004, 12:13 PM
Here's another idea. (sort of a take off from my previous design where the "s" and dot together form an "I")

jeremyconner
03-06-2004, 12:24 PM
Jason:

Hey man, no problem whatsoever. I can't tell you how much I appreciate your busting your tail in this competition...if that were the criteria by which the winner would be judged, you'd take it!

Just think about it...we have a week and a half to go, so no sweat. Thanks for your work!

Pennyln:

The first set doesn't really appeal to me...sorry! The second set is better though...I like the ideas you have, but perhaps a different symbol under the name. The "waves" (or abstract I and S?) kind of remind me a bit of a pool product. (no offense!) Maybe on the logos where you have the name tilted (bottom row) you could have the name resting one something else that is a bit more...umm...something like data or technology or something. Sorry for the lame feedback, but I can't really describe what I'm talking about because I'm thinking it up as I go!

Mark:

I definitely liked your first one better...this one is ok, but not quite as good as your original entry. I'm really sorry! I hope this doesn't quench your desire to keep brainstorming on this one!

Thanks!

Jeremy

Tonya
03-06-2004, 02:48 PM
<img src='http://www.frobo.com/graphic_work/infosymmetry/infosymmetry1.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

dbenton25
03-06-2004, 03:30 PM
Hi Jeremy,

Here's a quick try at your logo. There's some (hopefully) obvious symmetry built in. And the icon represents the transformation of disorder into order. If you like the direction I've taken here, let me know. I'll be happy to make any changes you'd like to see.

Thank you,

-Dave B)

Eagle
03-06-2004, 04:23 PM
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Hi Jeremy

:)

Raja
03-06-2004, 04:28 PM
variation

Raja
03-06-2004, 05:07 PM
K.I.S.S :D

jeremyconner
03-06-2004, 06:37 PM
WOW! Got a flood of entries...interest is picking up nicely! :)

Dynagirl:

I'm sorry, but this one just doesn't appeal to me. I saw some of your work on the site though and I know you're creative as heck, so please don't give up! PLEASE!

To be specific, I like the work you did recently for Advanced Services (think thats it..the lawn care logo)...all of the designs you did there had a good look to them and good symbols included. I know this company is a bit tougher to do a symbol for, but maybe you could do something along those lines.

Dave:

Cool idea...I think you're the first person to do a symbol that has confusion changing into order, which is something we feel like we do as a company. I forgot about this until you drew that logo. I like that idea a lot. I also like the warm colors.

What I don't like is the faded words on either side of the name...makes the logo too long, I think. I also think I like the name all as one and not split with part on top and part on bottom.

Maybe you could put the name back together, and then do something along those lines with the symbol you chose. I like the symbol, but could you make it something less "flag" like? I'd like to see something a little more "digital" or "techy" if that makes sense...but keeping the same idea about one side having the disorder and the other order. The different colored blocks are great...maybe just a different shape to have them on. If this doesn't make sense, please let me know and I'll try to clear it up.

Eagle:

I like the idea of having the name in a shape as you have it, and it has some good contrast to it.

I'm not crazy about the symbol you have, but I like the idea of the location you have for it and having it in a different colored area. Also, I'd rather see the company name as one word instead of two. Maybe you could do something else to differentiate the two parts of the name and perhaps come up with a different symbol? I know it's not an easy one and the name doesn't give you much to work with.

Raja:

I'm not crazy about the revisions to the first design...but that's probably because I liked the first design so much. You have a front runner with that guy. I hesitate to tell you that because I want you to keep new ideas coming if you have them, but that first one you did is pretty darn good.

Did you see the earlier post I had for you about some changes to the dot positions and colors? You almost did it here, but if you'll check back there I left one suggestion that a parter of mine wanted to see - I would like to check that out if possible.

On the second one, it's not bad but I'd probably say that I'm not really into it. The font on it is too light for my taste and the symbol is a bit too simple. I know that's kind of what you were going for with that one, and I think you did it too well! :)

AlexKogan
03-06-2004, 08:03 PM
Raja, that's swanky :tup: :D

Just J
03-06-2004, 10:04 PM
????????

<img src='http://www.blackspotdesigns.com/outpost/info12.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

Jason

Hypnosis
03-07-2004, 08:54 AM
Thanx for the feedback Jeremy,

Here are a few ideas I worked out from your comments, I hopr you like it :)

Awaiting your feedback,

Hyp!

dbenton25
03-07-2004, 10:18 AM
Hi Jeremy,

Here's another concept that I think may work better for you. I wanted to bring together the concepts of symmetry and chaos to order. Since circles/spheres are inherently symmetrical, I think this design has a more cohesive composition.

If you like the idea, let me know and I'll be glad to bring it to completion for you.

Thank you,

-Dave B)

jeremyconner
03-07-2004, 11:55 AM
Blackspot:

I think I liked it better with the full circle of dots...sorry!

Hypnosis:

First, let me say this about the font - ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT! I love the font you used (nice and strong) and love the blend on the first and last letters of each part of the word. Too cool.

All of these looked really cool, but I think maybe we should focus more on the third one. I liked the top one, but I've seen a lot of companies that have a similar logo symbol and don't want to get lost in the crowd. The second one looks cool, but I'd like a symbol of some sort instead of just the straight up "I" and "S".

The third one looks cool, but exactly what is it? Obviously there's an I in there, but is it a pc power button? I like the overall look but would like to see a different symbol here...I'm not sure what though - sorry! Perhaps something that is related to technology, data transfer and management, or something along those lines. Or...you could work on this symbol and remove the "I"...not sure what to tell you to do with it though.

The fourth one doesn't appeal to me as much.

David:

I still like the idea of the blocks turning into a solid shape but...

Can you try a different shape with the movement of the different colored squares into the solid? Maybe a fiber optic cable, or something technical/digital like that where part of the cable at the beginning is in blocks and then it gets solid towards the end? That might not even be a good idea...just off the top of my head...but I don't like the circle as much.

Also, can you keep the name together (instead of half on top) and go with a more rounded font (not too rounded...something strong)?

CBaker14
03-07-2004, 01:53 PM
jeremy,

just thought of this, working with the "I" and "s" let me know what you think...

Chris

jeremyconner
03-07-2004, 04:53 PM
Cbaker14:

This one is closer to what I'm looking for than your previous entries, but still not quite there yet. I like the colors you used, but the I and S just doesn't appeal to me in this fashion. Sorry!

Thanks

Jeremy

CBaker14
03-07-2004, 06:19 PM
jeremy.

How about these versions with the "I" and "s"?

Chris

Hypnosis
03-07-2004, 09:45 PM
OK, thanks for thr feedback jeremy,
I'll get back to you later tonight ;)

hyp!

Just J
03-08-2004, 07:02 AM
Lucky #13!?!?!?!?! :blink:
Hi again Jeremy. Still working on a few things for you. I have about 5 or so different concepts, but I don't think you'd like them.
On the same concept with the circles; I reversed the thickness of the text and the shading of the circles which seemed to balance it.

jeremyconner
03-08-2004, 07:15 AM
Blackspot:

Your latest revision gave me an idea. It might not be a good one, but I figured I'd throw it out at you to see what you thought.

PLEASE DON'T SHOOT ME FOR THIS! :)

I just had an idea based on the text thickness that you reversed that might be cool if you were interested in trying it.

What if we changed the dots to arrows and kept the fade in them so that at the back (before the beginning of the name) they were light and got dark and more visible as they came around to meet the "S". Then, we could put some sort of symbol that would represent information before the name that would be where the arrows originated from (although you wouldn't see them contacting the object because of the fade). I don't know what the object/symbol could be (something that represents data?) but this might be cool.

Additionally, you might could have the arrows in the beginning sort of streak - in other words, have several smaller lines that merged into a larger line as the circle grew darker.

This is a lot of stuff to try and there's no guarantee that I'd even like it (since I haven't even seen it yet) so don't try it unless you just really want to. It's just something I thought about when I saw your latest revisions.

Thanks!

Jeremy

Just J
03-08-2004, 07:22 AM
Hi Jeremy,
What if we changed the dots to arrows
I was actually going to try that before I went into the circles. The reason I didn't is because I have a business card sitting right next to me that has arrows like that in a circle (but not forming a circle). I will try what you explained, you can expect it in a few hours.
Thanks.

Aaron
03-08-2004, 09:16 AM
Hi.

Just J
03-08-2004, 09:45 AM
I couldn't get the arrows to look good at all in the circle (if anyone else wants to run with the idea, feel free), but it did give me an idea (but with my luck you won't like it).

Just J
03-08-2004, 10:11 AM
...or an equal balance...

jeremyconner
03-08-2004, 10:22 AM
Arthouse:

I like this design...pretty clever idea with the I and S. Can you make either "info" or "symmetry" a different color or do something to bring out one of the words? I like a bit of contrast there.

As for other revisions, let me get some feedback on this one before I give you and more direction on it if that's ok...I'll post something later when I get some comments on it.

Blackspot:

Design #14 - sorry man, I just don't like that one.

Design #15 - let me get some feedback on this one...I think it needs something more (I bet you're sick of hearing me say that...so sorry!) but I'm not sure what yet. Let me get some folks to look at all of your latest designs and see. I'll post when I can about it.

Aaron
03-08-2004, 10:35 AM
Absolutely. Let me know what variations you'd like to see.

jeremyconner
03-08-2004, 10:48 AM
Arthouse:

I'm still going to get some feedback from others (so please check back later!), but could I see that last one you did (with the different colored fonts) with that symbol you did at the bottom (the one where the IS had it's own outline and not the square behind it? BUT - could you use another color besides black for the I (like maybe the light blue or something...btw, did you guess those colors or hit our URL...smart thinking!)? This change was something I was thinking about when I first saw it and I'd like to be able to show my partners both the original and the version with the IS outlined - if it's not a big deal to redo it real quick.

Thanks!

Jeremy

Aaron
03-08-2004, 11:12 AM
Not a problem... here you are.

CBaker14
03-08-2004, 11:46 AM
jeremy,

any feedback on my last post?

chris

jeremyconner
03-08-2004, 12:10 PM
Cbaker14:

Hmm...my comments on that one didn't make it onto the server for some reason! I'm not sure what happened...sorry about that!

I'm sorry, but I'm not real crazy about this design either. I don't really like the shape of the I and S and the fuzzy feel that it has. I see what you're going for, but I don't think this style is what we're looking for.

Thanks,

Jeremy

Hypnosis
03-08-2004, 12:27 PM
hello Jeremy,

I tried different styles according to your comments and I know its hard to comment them. Anyway, here are a few trials... really hope you like them, comments please ;)

hyp!

jeremyconner
03-08-2004, 01:00 PM
Hypnosis:

I'm sorry, but these symbols still aren't resonating with me.

BUT...I have an idea that I think would be cool...

I love the font you have and the way you have the letters blended together - it's so good that it's almost a contender by itself. What I did was do a mock-up graphic to show you one thought I had...maybe where I have the blue block you could put some small symbol, something related to data and data movement (maybe a bar graph, or something else along those lines that represents information and the movement of information) or just some small shape that shows motion and goes from disorder to order. The shape would not be any taller than the company name and would be just to the left of it. If we could get something symbolic in there, I think this would rock. The graphic I put beside the name is half as tall as the name, so we would need to make it taller, but not any taller than the tallest letters.

It would have to be no taller than the company name so that if you wanted to you could draw a straight line along the bottom and top and nothing would cross it. I'm not saying that we would do that, but the lines will be implied by the look of the name and the logo that fits alongside of it.

I hope this rambling makes sense...and hopefully the mock up I did will help make it clear. If not, please feel free to ask me. I think this could really work.

Thanks!

Jeremy

MOZ
03-08-2004, 02:43 PM
Here's some from MOZ
Look like anything you might want to move ahead on?

Aaron
03-08-2004, 03:31 PM
Another take on it...

jeremyconner
03-08-2004, 06:23 PM
MOZ:

I feel terrible saying it, but these just don't do anything for me. I'm really sorry! They just don't have the look and feel that I'm looking for. I'd welcome any other looks you want to send my way, however. My apologies!

Arthouse:

This latest attempt is definitely the best revision...I think you have a contender with this one. Don't let that keep you from trying new ideas you get, because there are a few in here that I really love and the decision will be tough, but keep this one on file because I may get you to go back to it.

MOZ
03-08-2004, 06:28 PM
It's COOL
You can't make a cake without breaking some eggs! Most of us designers out here aren't that sensitive. I personally prefer to be told YUK! instead of hanging on!

MOZ

CBaker14
03-08-2004, 06:35 PM
jeremy...

Here are a couple more attempts, let me know what you think. I remember you mentioning arrows in a post and I thought Id try an infinity design incorporating the name...

Chris

jeremyconner
03-08-2004, 06:51 PM
Cbaker14:

The first one is definitely out...but the second one is a pretty cool idea. I like the dots fading out towards the back and getting more solid as they get closer, and I like the "swish" or whatever that is on each side. It's not quite there yet...let me get some folks to check it out and see what they think.

BUT...Question for you - will it be a problem that this logo looks a lot like the Active Voice logo? The AV logo is cool, and I don't want to have some sort of copyright issue...plus I definitely don't want people mistaking us for copying someone's idea as it would make us look unoriginal. That could be a major problem and kind of makes me leery of this particular design. What do you think?

Here is that logo for your reference:

AlexKogan
03-08-2004, 06:51 PM
arthouse :tup: :tup: Neat! :D

CBaker14
03-08-2004, 07:05 PM
jeremy,

Hmmm, good question, I didn't pay any attention, I was just going for the "infinity" symbol...Hey everyone, give me some thoughts on the resemblence to the "Active Voice" logo...

Chris

AlexKogan
03-08-2004, 08:21 PM
Chris, if you're serious about giving the thoughts, I'd say - just leave it and come up with something else. The swirling circles, although do look attractive and can fit nearly every concept, have become somewhat common already. Hey, you can do much better logo without the circles :tup: ;)







P.S. please, mind the new design posting rules :rolleyes: ;)

DesignGeneral
03-08-2004, 09:30 PM
Hi Jeremy,

here we go :)

Hypnosis
03-08-2004, 10:33 PM
ok, thanx for feedback :)
I'll post something tonight,

Hyp!

Aaron
03-08-2004, 11:01 PM
Thanks Alex. ^_^

jeremyconner
03-09-2004, 05:55 AM
DesignGeneral:

Couple of things on your design:

First, could you put the word infosymmetry together? Also, I like the simple 2 color variation (not the one's with the words having mixed colors).

Could you try something for me? I like the idea you had for having a symbol that looks kind of like a network of some kind, or of a flow from one point to many points (you had a single dot and it had a path from it that branched out into several other dots). What I don't like is using it for the "I" in the word info. Could you perhaps put the I back in the name, and then try a design with a cube or something in the middle and then have your 4 "spokes" going out to smaller cubes? Basically it would look like a bicycle wheel with one object in the center and then the 4 lines going out in various directions and ending up at smaller objects. It wouldn't tie directly into the name, but it would represent the dissemination of information (hey, that rhymes!). Just a thought.

Thanks!

Jeremy

CBaker14
03-09-2004, 05:58 AM
True Alex, thanks...

Carl
03-09-2004, 07:08 AM
With tip of hat to Blackspot for the arrow inspiration...

My entry...

Carl...

Just J
03-09-2004, 07:17 AM
With tip of hat to Blackspot for the arrow inspiration...

...and a very nice job with it IMHO.

jeremyconner
03-09-2004, 07:23 AM
Carl:

Thanks for your entry! Unfortunately, I don't really care for this design. What I think might look good (and this is something I mentioned to Blackspot and I think - think - that he said others could run with it if they wanted to) would be two arrows...creating a half circle, with their tails fading from opaque to dark, back to front...

That probably doesn't make sense...sorry about that! I don't know how to describe it any better! I just don't care for the small brackets or arrows and I'd also like a more rounded font.

Thanks!

Jeremy

jeremyconner
03-09-2004, 07:25 AM
TO ALL DESIGNERS:

Tomorrow is the half-way point in the competition, and I'm going to provide a ranked list of the leading designs in the competition so that you guys can gauge where your design is at. I'm hoping this will help you determine if you want to continue to compete and whether or not your design will need revision (or a simple spiffing up!)

Of course, I'll still accept new design entries up until March 15 - I won't accept new entries made on March 16 or 17. This is because I need time to review your entry and get revisions/comments to you about it, and still have time to consider it against the other entries.

I thought about shortening the deadline some, but I need the extra time to get the people on my end who need to be involved in the selection process time to check these out. I also know you guys are EXTREMELY busy and wanted to make sure anyone who wanted to participate had a chance to do so. With that in mind, I think I'll keep the March 17 deadline, but by tomorrow you should have a better idea of who's designs are leading the competition.

Thanks!

Jeremy Conner

Just J
03-09-2004, 07:40 AM
Hi again Jeremy,
and this is something I mentioned to Blackspot and I think - think - that he said others could run with it if they wanted to) would be two arrows...creating a half circle, with their tails fading from opaque to dark, back to front...

Yes I did say that.
I did have an idea with it though (see attached). Since I did say anyone could run with it, the offer still stands. If anyone can use this idea, feel free.

DesignGeneral
03-09-2004, 09:29 AM
I'm back with revision ;)

let me know if I figured out correctly your idea.

Thanks

DesignGeneral
03-09-2004, 09:36 AM
With symbols placed on top of text..

jeremyconner
03-09-2004, 11:37 AM
DesignGeneral:

Actually, what I was thinking was one cube that would have other cubes proceeding from it...basically you'd have a cube in one spot, and then some arrows or lines that demonstrate movement, and then a smaller cube or two flying away from or around the original cube.

Or something like that...but I don't know if it's even a good idea, so I wouldn't kill yourself trying to do it unless you think it looks good. I'm trying to picture it in my head but can't.

Thanks!

Jeremy

Hypnosis
03-09-2004, 01:28 PM
hi Jeremy,

thanx again for your feedback, here are a few ideas I tried to illustrate from your comments, I hope you like them....

hyp!

jeremyconner
03-09-2004, 01:42 PM
Hypnosis:

:tup: Great response to my feedback...this is exactly what I was talking about.

I like the top 2 a lot! Good perspective on the bar chart "thingy" and great idea on the data ribbon.

One design change - can you reverse the symbol on the second logo so that the portion with the small blocks in it is on the left? I'd like the part of the ribbon that goes above the square shape to be on the left.

One other thing that might or might not work - could you try a bit of a symbol combo? What I was thinking was that we could put some checkered boxes, just like the way you have them in the ribbon on your number 2 logo (except not on the ribbon but laid flat), on the "floor" below the bar towers. That way, it would look like you had a floor with some scattered blocks on it that merge into the bar graph columns at the bottom. It would look just like the first logo, but with a checkerboard sort of feel right below the bars in your graph (except not in an orderly fashion like you would see the squares on a checkerboard) Just a thought.

Let's talk color for a second, because with a color change I think two of your designs will be in the final running. Could I see the first and second logo's that you have in the following colors and/or combinations of color:

semi-dark orange/navy blue
navy blue/grey
semi-dark orange/grey

If all these color combos are too much of a hassle then just do one of them...I don't know how easy it is to change that! :)


Thanks!

Jeremy

Mark
03-09-2004, 02:00 PM
Here's another idea.. :)

jeremyconner
03-09-2004, 02:11 PM
Mark:

Man, I really like your design style...you have a very crisp, clean and poignant (spelling?) way with your stuff that really appeals to me.

I like the idea on this design. The only thing I don't like about it is the S...it's just sort of sitting there. It kind of looks like it was just put there...part of me likes it, but I'd like it a lot more if we could somehow incorporate it more into the design or make it more abstract or something. This could be really cool if you could do something about that.

What I want to avoid with using the letters is having a symbol that just says IS on it. I don't think that has enough style for what we want. Your first submission (the orange I and the sort of hidden S) used these letters, but in such a way (such a cool way!) that it makes it awesome. (FYI - your first logo is in the final running, no question)

But don't let that stop you from creating more stuff!

Thanks!

Jeremy

Hypnosis
03-09-2004, 02:13 PM
Wow that was quick! ;)

Here, I mixed the colour in a way that you can have an overview and make a choice quite easily. Combining them is not a problem.

Awaiting feedback...
Hyp!

Flava
03-09-2004, 02:21 PM
some really good designs here so I wasn't going to post but then I thought I might try something really simple
<img src='http://www.flavabox.com/info.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

CBaker14
03-09-2004, 02:25 PM
How about a cube comprised of globes...

What do you think?

Chris

jeremyconner
03-09-2004, 02:27 PM
Hypnosis:

GREAT REVISIONS! Good colors...I'll get feedback on which ones to use. Thanks for the quick update!

The second design (with the reversed symbol) is great...no changes for the time being!

You're really close to something GREAT on the first logo...

On the second color scheme, first logo (one with the bar graph - navy/gold - or whatever those colors are...I'm slightly colorblind so don't hold me to that!) can we try just one more thing? I love the checkered floor look, but can you make it so that the squares run up to the columns? In other words, on the floor would be 3 streams of blocks, slightly wider and getting more narrow as they approach the columns, and then have the stream run into the column? See what I'm trying to do is have it look like there are 3 "streams" of blocks (representing data) that flow into the base of the columns. These columns (which are also data) represent how we change/organize people's data.

I don't know if you can do that or not, but the look I want to achieve is for the blocks to look like they flow into the columns, and when they hit the column spot they are "transformed" into the colums. Maybe one big winding data river who's base runs into the bottom of the three columns. In fact, it would look like a river of blocks that float into perhaps an oval shape at the bottom of the columns. Then, from the "pool" of raw data the three columns emerge.

BUT KEEP THE PERSPECTIVE FLAT ON THE DATA...I like the checkered squares at just the angle that you have now...that's a perfect angle.

How's that for feedback huh? :) Probably more than you wanted!

Thanks!

Jeremy

Mark
03-09-2004, 02:38 PM
You're right about the "s" looking like an add-on because basically it was. So the more I thought about it, I think there should be no "s" at all! I should have stayed with the original intent which was to have the "I"s form the symmetry.

Hypnosis
03-09-2004, 02:45 PM
Impressive and super speed feedback Jeremey! :tup:

Definitly more than I expected ;)

ok, I'm not sure I understood clearly what you wanted but I tried something, tell me what you think...

hyp!

Eagle
03-09-2004, 03:10 PM
*
:)

jeremyconner
03-09-2004, 03:18 PM
Hypnosis:

You're close, but we need to mix up the pattern of the squares at the base so they don't look orderly. That way it will look like the squares were in disorder until they reached the columns, and then they joined up with the columns.

Both of these are looking really good.

Mark:

Let me think about this one for a while and show some folks. I like it, but it may be just a bit too simple (I know I just said I loved that about your work, but this one might need a little something more). Let me get back to you.

Flava:

These aren't bad, but I don't like them as much as some of the other designs. Sorry!

Cbaker:

Sorry...I just don't like this as much as some of the others.

Thanks guys!

Jeremy

Hypnosis
03-09-2004, 03:33 PM
hey Jeremy,

Cool feedback (as always)

Here, hope that's what you had in mind...

Hyp! ;)

Hypnosis
03-09-2004, 03:44 PM
hey Jeremy,

Its nearly 4am here and Im gonna get some sleep, I'll see you later,

thanx for the great feedbacks,

Hyp! ;)

jeremyconner
03-09-2004, 03:52 PM
Hypnosis:

That's perfect...exactly what I meant...thanks for all the revisions! These two logos will be in the final running for sure.

Great work! :tup:

Jeremy

Hypnosis
03-09-2004, 10:00 PM
thanx, keep me posted ;)

Hyp!

jeremyconner
03-10-2004, 06:45 AM
CONTEST UPDATE:

Ok folks...first of all, let me say THANK YOU for all of the great work that's been done so far! I really appreciate everyone's efforts more than you know. You guys are great, and I'm DEFINITELY glad I came here to get the logo done as opposed to hiring a firm to do it. I will ABSOLUTELY RECOMMEND this site and you designers to anyone needing this type of work!

While all of the work has been great, there are a few logos that stand out from the crowd. The following designers have logos that are finalists in this competition:

Raja, MarkBeaudry, Arthouse, Hypnosis

The leading designs by these guys are shown below - I don't have a paint program so I apologize for having to lump them all together into one big graphic.

These guys have set the bar pretty high, and while I'll still accept entries up until March 15 (with contest winner declared March 17) they'll have to be special to make it! So if you want to compete and have something to bring to the table, the quicker I see it the better!

Thanks!

Jeremy

Just J
03-10-2004, 07:55 AM
Congrats to all that've made it into the finals! :tup:
... but I'm not done yet (I think?) :box:
One last stab at it. Made the arrows into a symmetric symbol in the form of an "s" (kind of an "I" too).
I hope you like it Jeremy.

(To all, I REALLY hope this doesn't look too much like anyone elses)

Hypnosis
03-10-2004, 07:59 AM
thanx agin for the feedback Jeremy,

Since I have a bit more time, I started playing with my designs and got to that,
I just thought I'd show it to you... don't be mad, I'm not destroying anything, please tell me what you think.

hyp!

jeremyconner
03-10-2004, 08:45 AM
Blackspot:

Man, I have got to hand it to you...you never give up, and have worked very hard on this. I think you'll find that in life that sort of attitude and work ethic will pay off big-time.

With that said, I don't really like this design as much as some of the others. Sorry!

Hypnosis:

That's a really clean looking logo...I like it. It reminds me of a technical journal. Could you try overlapping the two "M"s in symmetry the same way you have the O and S, and then not overlap the O and S? I'd just like to see what that looks like...might be too much with the other overlap, but it might be cool if we remove the O and S overlap.

Thanks,

Jeremy

Just J
03-10-2004, 08:50 AM
you'll find that in life that sort of attitude and work ethic will pay off big-time.

With that said, I don't really like this design as much as some of the others. Sorry!
I'm 33 and still waiting for the payoff Jeremy!!! :lol:

If I think of something new before the deadline I'll post it. Thanks for giving me the chance, and for your GREAT feedback.

Good luck to all in case I don't post anymore.

jeremyconner
03-10-2004, 08:58 AM
Blackspot:

I didn't mean to imply that you were young or that you were not succesful...I just meant that in the technology world that I work in, finding people who work hard is rare. Sorry if it came across differently.

Jeremy

Just J
03-10-2004, 09:04 AM
I didn't mean to imply that you were young or that you were not succesful...I just meant that in the technology world that I work in, finding people who work hard is rare. Sorry if it came across differently

I know Jeremy, I was just kidding ;) . For the record... It means a lot to me to know that people see me that way.
Thank you!

jeremyconner
03-10-2004, 09:27 AM
Man you had me worried there for a minute! I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU DID THAT TO ME! :lol: :) ;)

Just J
03-10-2004, 09:31 AM
:rolleyes: :lol:

CBaker14
03-10-2004, 09:32 AM
jeremy,

I tried the infinity design again, incorporating the whole name...let me know what you think...

Chris

jeremyconner
03-10-2004, 10:23 AM
Cbaker14:

This looks too much like the ActiveVoice logo for me to want to use it. I appreciate the effort though!

Thanks

Jeremy

MOZ
03-10-2004, 10:35 AM
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MOZ sneaking one in under the line ;)

jeremyconner
03-10-2004, 11:08 AM
Moz:

This one is decent, but I don't like it as much as some of the others. Sorry!

Thanks!

Jeremy

Raja
03-10-2004, 12:28 PM
Hi, entered in so many contests, hard to keep up :)

works in solid black as well, for memos, faxs, invoice etc...

Aaron
03-10-2004, 12:33 PM
Just to keep things interesting...

dbenton25
03-10-2004, 12:37 PM
Raja :tup:

Eagle
03-10-2004, 12:39 PM
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Hi Jeremy...any feedback on my last entry? :)

jeremyconner
03-10-2004, 12:59 PM
Raja:

That does look very good in a greyscale! ALSO - I LIKE THE FONT ON THIS ONE BETTER!

Can you rearrange the dots per one of my earlier posts? Basically, I'd like to see the right hand dot moved to the top row, and then both the left hand and right hand dots the same color, plus the middle dot on the center column. (this will make the abstract S a little more obvious.)

Also, can you put the M back the way it was and change the tagline back to "capture.manage."? That tagline is SOOOOO cool and it fits perfectly.

These are some requests my partner had and I want to be able to let him see both the current version and the changed version.

Arthouse:

Whoa...that's pretty freaky! I like it...let me get some feedback on it.

Eagle:

Forgot to post comments on that last one...sorry! Unfortunately, I don't care for the design.

Thanks all!

Jeremy

Hypnosis
03-10-2004, 01:04 PM
here jeremy,

but I honestly thing it does not work as good as the previous version...

Hyp!

Raja
03-10-2004, 01:11 PM
cinq :)

The designers here would be happy to do minor revisions after you select them

jeremyconner
03-10-2004, 01:17 PM
Hypnosis:

You're absolutely right...that idea sucked! Sorry to make you waste your time on that one! :sick:

I showed some folks your work today and they really liked it...it's meeting with great approval!

Let's hold what you've got for now (unless you have more ideas, in which case feel free to experiment) until I get some more feedback.

Raja:

Thanks for the revision and the unique change with using one of the dots for the I.

I also showed some folks your work today and they also really liked it. It has a clean look that appeals to everyone! Let's hold what you've got for now (unless you have more ideas, in which case feel free to experiment) until I get some more feedback.

Hey...on that other logo that I said I didn't like (the one with the square and the S that was pretty simple)...can you try it with a font that's closer to the one you used on the dot logo? The more I look at that logo, the more I think it has potential. As it is I don't think it's better than some others, but if you don't mind I'd like to see what a different font would do (something stronger and thicker than you originally used...although that may ruin the look, but let's try if you're interested)

Thanks!

Jeremy

jeremyconner
03-10-2004, 01:22 PM
Hypnosis:

Hey...one quick thing...could I get your two logos that I liked in a few different colors? Would you be able to give me that in:

navy/orange (darker than the one you have now)
Orange/grey
maroon/grey

If it's a lot of trouble then don't worry about it...we can do this later...but the yellow in this is a bit too bright.

Thanks!

Jeremy

Hypnosis
03-10-2004, 01:41 PM
:) I kept playing sorry, Im did not see your comment :(

Here, I'll paot the ones you like in a few minutes :)

Hyp!

Hypnosis
03-10-2004, 01:42 PM
personaly I prefer the first one

Raja
03-10-2004, 01:51 PM
hyp :box:

Hypnosis
03-10-2004, 01:54 PM
I'm sorry, I don't think I understand your post Raja ;)

Hypnosis
03-10-2004, 02:00 PM
There your go Jeremy :)

Hyp!

Aaron
03-10-2004, 02:05 PM
Let's keep this crazy train rolling!

Aaron
03-10-2004, 02:05 PM
:)

Aaron
03-10-2004, 02:07 PM
;)

jeremyconner
03-10-2004, 03:17 PM
Good grief...you guys are turning it up! I noticed some friendly competition heating up, which is killer news for me! This decision is not getting any easier to make!

Hypnosis:

Thanks for the color revisions! They all look great!

On the new logos...WOW! I like the first and third one. Question...could you add the silver dot over the I like you did in your very first post with this look in it, and not have the O and S overlap one another in this particular design? I think in this design it detracts.

Also, these have a bevel to them...will that be a problem printing them flat? Would they look good flat? These are VERY interesting...I'll get feedback on them and let you know.

Raja:

That looks really good! I'll have to get some feedback on this one. All of the revisions on the first logo look great.

Arthouse:

I like those too, but still not as much as your earlier post.

Tonya
03-10-2004, 05:55 PM
<img src='http://www.frobo.com/graphic_work/infosymmetry/infosymmetry2.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

jeremyconner
03-10-2004, 06:36 PM
Dynagirl:

I appreciate the designs, but I don't think they're right for our company. Sorry!

Thanks,

Jeremy

Hypnosis
03-10-2004, 09:27 PM
Jeremy,

I'll post you the amends tonight :),


Hyp!

Hypnosis
03-10-2004, 09:29 PM
raja :box:




;)

jeremyconner
03-11-2004, 07:30 AM
Thanks!

Jeremy

Just J
03-11-2004, 08:14 AM
I think I'm a glutton for punishment! ;)

jeremyconner
03-11-2004, 10:05 AM
Blackspot:

Hey man...this one is alright, but I don't like it as much as the others that are leading the competition.

Jeremy

Just J
03-11-2004, 10:10 AM
Thanks Jeremy. I think that's it for me. Out of the logos you chosen so far, you have no choice but to get a GREAT logo regardless of which you end up with. Enjoy it.

Hypnosis
03-11-2004, 01:07 PM
Sorry for taking so long :)
Here Jeremy

Hyp!

Hypnosis
03-11-2004, 01:09 PM
Don't worry man, they will print ok, I made a 2 colour version so you can save on films and colours ;) But It's always better in quad (CMYK). Its your choice.

Hyp!

jeremyconner
03-11-2004, 01:32 PM
Hypnosis:

In that logo version, I think I like it better without the overlap in the letters...thanks for those changes!

I don't have any other feedback for you right now on these...I'm going to meet with my primary partner this weekend and see what he thinks about this and the other items. We'll probably make a decision this weekend. You are definitely in the running!

I'll post something as soon as I get more information for you. Good work!

Thanks!

Jeremy

Hypnosis
03-11-2004, 01:41 PM
thanx Jeremy, have a nice weekend ;)


hyp!

DesignGeneral
03-12-2004, 07:13 PM
2 new ideas ;)

jeremyconner
03-13-2004, 06:27 AM
DesignGeneral:

Thanks for the submission, but it's just not as appealing to me as some of the other entries. I'm not sure what direction I could tell you to go with these...I like the fonts, but not the symbols that you have with it. Sorry!

Thanks!

Jeremy

DesignGeneral
03-13-2004, 07:03 AM
no pb Jeremy. I'm working at something else :)

jeremyconner
03-16-2004, 07:17 AM
CONTEST CLOSED!

Ok folks...thanks for all the great entries! We're in the process of choosing a winner now, and should have something posted within 24 hours.

Thanks,

Jeremy

jeremyconner
03-17-2004, 05:43 AM
We have a winner!

After a great deal of debate, we have a winner! This was about as close a contest as you could get, and I appreciate all the hard work that was put forth. I hate to have to make a choice since everyone put so much effort into it!

With about 52% of the votes (yes, it was that close), the winner is....

RAJA!

Again, thanks to all the contestants - it was a REALLY tough decision to make. There were plenty of good entries, but in the end Raja's design struck a chord with more people than any other selection. His design grabbed us from the beginning, fought off some REALLY good designs, and hung on for the victory.

Raja, we have a few questions/revisions we'd like to make (minor stuff). I guess when they move this to the revisions area we can do that. Is that how it works?

THANKS TO EVERYONE! THIS SITE RULES!

Jeremy Conner

jeremyconner
03-17-2004, 05:57 AM
Raja:

I'd like to discuss these two versions of the logo with you...I was going to see if you wouldn't mind sending me both of these "styles". I got a lot of great feedback on the "liquid" version of the logo in terms of using it for a flash site (having a logo that was a bit more "freaky" for the flash site is cool). I know it's not the winning design, but would you care if we used that one too?

Jeremy

(SORRY FOR THE POOR IMAGE QUALITY ON THIS IMAGE POST!)

Raja
03-17-2004, 06:16 AM
-Team

That was close no doubt. great job you all

-Jeremy

Thanks. I'll see you on the revisions board. About the second logo, I'd have to see with Palmer. I don't think it falls within the guidelines to receive two logos for the same prize.


-raja

Hypnosis
03-17-2004, 06:32 AM
Congrats RAJA!!! :tup:

That really was a great one!

Thanx for everything Jeremy, see you soon ;)


Hyp!

Mark
03-17-2004, 06:44 AM
Yah, congrats Raja. You da man! :tup: I envy you! ;)

jeremyconner
03-17-2004, 07:10 AM
Raja:

Hey that's cool...don't even worry about it man! We'll roll with the one logo, and if and when we decide to use the other one, I'll just contact you and we'll pay you for it (should we decide to use it). You're right in that you shouldn't deliver 2 logos for one price - I didn't think about that, but now that you mention it I'd rather just get the one. You guys do great work and I want to be fair, because I have a few more that I'll need designed down the road a bit and so I want to treat you guys right.

Thanks man!

Jeremy

Hypnosis
03-17-2004, 10:33 PM
Thanx fot the fair play Jeremy ;)

hyp!

jeremyconner
03-18-2004, 05:49 AM
Hey Raja!

I see by looking at the revision forums that you're slammed! Don't feel rushed on this one. Obviously we'd both like to get this thing overwith as soon as possible, but iI can start doing my website mock-ups using your posted graphics as placeholders. Of course, you can knock it out as quick as you'd like, but I just wanted to let you know that I'm not in a HUGE hurry.

Here are a few quick revisions for the logo:

1. I like the font and dot color you did on the last post of this logo (which I'll show below for reference), but I like the location of the dots that you did on the very first post you had in this competition. Can you "scoot" them over some?

2. Could you keep the word info in the thick grey font, but change the color of the word "symmetry" to be the blue color that you used in the first post you had in the competition?

3. Could you make the phrase "capture.manage." look like it did in the first post you had? Color can remain grey (or is it gray?) but I like the way you did it the first time.

I think this is it, but if I could see these changes I'd know for sure. Shouldn't be too much more than that - I may get one small color change on the dots, but probably nothing else. I'll review it and then set you free from having to deal with this! :) This logo is so killer!

Oh, what file format can you give this to me in? Can you do an eps or an illustrator file? I'd like to be able to get a friend of mine to edit it, should the need arise, and he mentioned that I needed vector art and in either of these formats (or something...I have no idea!). Your thoughts?

Thanks!

Jeremy

Raja
03-30-2004, 06:32 PM
hey man, how's this?

jeremyconner
03-31-2004, 06:28 AM
Thanks Raja! I think this will get us what we need...I can make the rest of the smaller changes myself (I'm going to play with the dot colors and such) and free you up! Can you send me the EPS file (or whatever file format I can use to edit it with adobe stuff - will EPS be editable in most programs?) for this guy?

Thanks!

Jeremy

Raja
03-31-2004, 06:42 AM
Thanks :)

Yes, EPS is pretty standard. Le me know what program your buddy uses and l'll give you the appropriate formats. As of now, you should already have the .eps file.

jeremyconner
03-31-2004, 07:14 AM
He uses Adobe photoshop I think...or maybe it's illustrator. You probably know which one it would be...I know it's an Adobe product, and not Photo Elements. Let me get him the EPS file and if I need something else I'll PM you on it. Can you tell me what fonts you used too? Could I get the font files if they're not normally available?

Thanks for the good work man!

Raja
04-05-2004, 02:23 PM
files sent :)