Firemint - computer game company logo - $150

[alexessory]

(Admin code added by Palmer - 877403D)

Hi everyone,

This competition is for a logo for "Firemint", a company that develops A-grade computer games. The two main groups the logo needs to appeal to are:

- publishers, who award game development contracts, and other developers, who subcontract work;
- gamers, who actually buy and play the games.

The games are currently mainly mobile phone and GameBoy Advance, but it's possible there will be some PC and console games in the future so please do not make any direct reference to the platform the games are on (ie no phones or PCs in the logo).

We chose this name because:

- it's dynamic and fresh - we love the contrast between hot, flaming, energetic fire and icy, cool, refreshing mint
- the dynamic and fresh aspects translate well to being a cutting-edge technology company
- we like the double meaning of mint - the plant, and casting/forging
- it's unique, and "almost" meaningful in a tip-of-the-tongue kind of way
- it's playful but not silly

We are open to suggestions and would love to see any concepts (please feel free to post rough sketches) but to help get you started, here are some ideas we talked about:

- something that plays on the double meaning of mint - a mint leaf forged in fire?
- a flame and mint leaf almost have the same outline and could be one ambiguous shape, perhaps shiny and embossed silver
- a mark that's vertically half mint and half flame, with the red and green merging together in the middle with a bitmapped/pixelated sort of effect

I'm uploading an example that shows the serrated edges and little spikes on mint leaves - please use whatever element works for you :)

We have not decided colours but it should probably be some combination of silver/chrome or red/green. The font should probably be sans-serif, and game-ish looking while still being clean and legible. We're open to suggestions!

We are looking for a logotype and mark, and would like the mark to work alone as well. The mark should be recognisable at 32x32 pixels and even lower if possible. We need something that can work in B&W/spot colour as well as process, and something that has potential to be animated. It will go on all the usual items such as cards, letterhead etc but also the game box and could be quite small eg on mobile phone games (so the smaller you can make it, the better!)

We will need the final version in eps or Illustrator format.

Sorry about the short timeframe - as some of you already know we took ages to decide the name, and now we are staring at a deadline for a print publication for a conference we're attending... eek! I hope you guys can pull yet another miracle :-)

[alexessory]

Sorry, just a small addendum after the boss read my post ;)

Feel free to use whatever colour you think works - the red/green and silver were just my suggestions. Also, the boss REALLY loves the idea of the "cast/forge" meaning of mint - freshly minted, new, shiny, quality, appealing... so a design that could somehow incorporate this would go down well!

[MOZ]

Hello it's MOZ
Wasn't I first last time too ;)

I've been going to use this image as a fine art piece, but never did
Would you like me to work up some ideas around him???

PLMK

[alexessory]

Hi Moz, good to see you again :) And thanks for kicking things off!

I like the image and the forge/mint theme, but I don't think this would reduce to a small size very well because of the amount of detail in him? What we'd like is something that can be quite tiny if needed... and I think we'd be looking for something a bit more technically advanced in the minting process than a blacksmith guy? Not sure! Did none of the suggestions above grab you? Or just that this one was ready to go?

[DesignGeneral]

here is a quick try at your logo...

[Michael]

Ok this is just a quick concept the leaf needs working on (I.e. the flame), but it will give you an idea what direction I'm working towards :)

<img src='http://www.2square.co.uk/contests/firemint.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />


Michael

[alexessory]

Hi DG, thanks for the quick reply :)

We'd prefer to see a clean, simple font treatment - I'm not usually a big fan of italics but I think it could possibly work in this case to indicate the dynamism of the company. But the flames on the individual letters are not the sort of feel we're looking for. Thanks for picking up on one of the suggestions I posted though, feel free to develop it furhter! eg some of the pixelated/bitmap interchange...

[Carl]

Using the "minting" as in coinage theme.

Carl...

[MOZ]

He was just sitting around
I'll be back!
MOZ

[Aaron]

My shot at it.

Design Gen, please let me know if you think this infringes on your original design... I tried to keep it away as much as possible. ;)

[Aaron]

Take two.

[Raja]

howdy

[DesignGeneral]

:)

[CBaker14]

Here is my first attempt at your logo...let me know if Im moving in the right direction...

Thanks,

Chris

[Tonya]

<img src='http://www.frobo.com/graphic_work/firemint/firemint1.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />


<img src='http://www.frobo.com/graphic_work/firemint/firemint2.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

[CBaker14]

dynagirl...

Your very first design reminds me of the BORG symbol from Star Trek..LOL uh oh, I guess I just outed myself as a "trekie" huh... :rolleyes:

[alexessory]

Hi everyone,

I'm in Australia so I guess a very different time zone to most of you - and wow, what a great way to start my day!! Thank you all so very much for your entries and thanks to everyone showing the different versions, big/small, colour/b&W... that's very helpful :)

Michael: I like the dynamism, the way it's not symmetrical and the movement in it. Like the feel of the font although perhaps not that exact one (not keen on the pixelated R, looks like this one was designed for small sizes?) Love the use of negative space and the way the lines in the leaf bleed into the flame. Also it seems just a little lopsided, perhaps the flame could sit on the black a bit more? Or the black could take up more of the shape?

Carl: I like the concept for the mark, but not a big fan of the font - I think we'd prefer something sans serif. It looks a bit like an oil company at the moment :) but we like the idea of the drop shape... liquid metal... could you try a few more ideas along those lines? Nice use of colour gradation too but the silver/grey is a bit dull looking, could you add more light/shine to make it look more precious somehow?

Arthouse: First one: Really like the font, and the very strong symmetry in the use of shape and colour. The shape reminds me of a maple leaf though, could you play with that a little more? Second one: Really love the shape, looks great! But somehow, it looks... a little too corporate perhaps? The mark looks a little like a hand holding a green flame perhaps - I love the green part and the shape of the negative space in it, but perhaps try a few variations with the orange part?

Raja: Wow, really love the glossy treatment! Love the shape too, perhaps just a little too abstract though? Love the font choice, too. Overall it looks very gamey! Love the movement in it. The green lozenge shape could be interpreted as a breath mint though, could you play with that shape a bit more?

DG: Thanks for the revision. I'm sorry, but it still doesn't grab me - the font is too casual and not clean or strong, and the flame and leaf in the symbol don't seem to have strong lines but are a bit "sketchy" looking if that makes sense. I like what you've done at the bottom with the black and white version sitting on top of the circle though. Could you refine the shape of the flames in that one to make them look more like fire?

Chris: I like the shape of the flames but I think there may be a few too many of them - a case of too much of a good thing? :P Could you keep the same sort of feel but simplify a little? I like the idea of the leaf as you've used it also, but it looks a little like it's just been put on top... could you try to integrate it more strongly with the background motif? Love the feel of the font too, and the ligature with the I and R is a great idea but it makes it look like it says "FREMINT". Not so keen on the E in this particular font though.

Dynagirl: I really love the movement and shape in the flame part of the mark, but the shape of the leaf is somehow not quite working for me - I'm not sure exactly what it is, somehow it's just a little too tame? Sorry I can't be more specific than that. I like the stamped/embossed treatment and also the metallic look. I'm not sure about the composition of the mark and type, but I think the mark is much too big relative to the font in the top version. I also prefer the version without the yellow. (The Borg have a symbol?? I didn't know they had a brand expert in the collective :) )

Some general notes for everyone: We seem to like the fonts that are all capitals, and while we like the use of different colours or different font weights for the two words, we don't want to separate them too much so I think using both a different colour and a different weight is a bit too much. Also, I would love to see something a little more 3D for the larger versions that can still translate to a flat B&W mark at smaller res - perhaps something where the middle part of the flame seems to come out of the page the most? Hopefully you can achieve this through the use of colours?

Hope that helps, thank you all very much for your work so far and I look forward to seeing the revisions!

[Aaron]

<!--QuoteBegin-alexessory+Mar 11 2004, 04:49 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (alexessory @ Mar 11 2004, 04:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Arthouse: First one: Really like the font, and the very strong symmetry in the use of shape and colour. The shape reminds me of a maple leaf though, could you play with that a little more? Second one: Really love the shape, looks great! But somehow, it looks... a little too corporate perhaps? The mark looks a little like a hand holding a green flame perhaps - I love the green part and the shape of the negative space in it, but perhaps try a few variations with the orange part? [/b][/quote]
I can see how it could be a hand... it was actually a mix of fire and mint, capital F and M. I made this version before I saw you post... I thought I'd just send it along.

[CBaker14]

How about these...I made some adujstments to the font and leaf/flame design, also tried a different font...

Chris

[CBaker14]

another....

Chris

[Fabian]

Hi

Here's my idea :)

Thanks
Fabian

[CBaker14]

Here are the designs using the whit out leaf...

Chris

[CBaker14]

here is the second one...

[Carl]

alexessory,

Here is the revision to my concept a little less abstract. I also wanted you to see it against black, since a lot of games come with black/dark box backgrounds.

Carl...

[DesignGeneral]

here is my revision...

[DesignGeneral]

more ideas ;)

[alexessory]

Thanks again for the revisions, everyone :)

Arthouse: I love the subtle effect you've added to the colours, and I hadn't picked up on the F and M but that's very clever! That would be really great to incorporate, but I don't want to compromise the shape to make it fit... argh, decisions decisions! Could you try it without the longish stalk? I'm not sure what else to suggest on this one. I personally like the font also, but not sure it's the right one for what we're trying to say. Sorry this is such vague feedback.

Chris: I can see you've simplified the shape a bit, more please :) I'd really like to see the kind of lines you've used, but even less detail on the individual flame bits. I prefer the first font you used, I don't mind the line running through the second one but I'm not keen on the left-leaning slope of the M. I like the negative space leaf "glowing" in the flames.

Fabian: Thanks for your entry! I'm of two minds regarding the font - I do like the dots on the F, E and T but not on the other letters... also to me the mark looks like just a mint leaf, could you introduce something to suggest the fire or casting ideas in the name?

Carl: Thanks for putting the image on a black background, that's a very good point - in fact, our logo will have to work on *any* colour background, including multi-coloured! I prefer the shinyness how you have it now, and the font is better too. I do like the idea of all caps with no ascenders or descenders... the f and particularly the m in this one bother me a bit. I'm not sure about how you have the drop and leaf sitting side by side now. Please feel free to explore some other ideas too!

DG: The leaf shape is looking much better, and the flame is better too - could you simplify/exaggerate them even more? I think that in some of the designs you wanted to suggest movement with the letters, but I'd like to keep the lettering simpler - so all on the same baseline and the pattern in the second group is too busy... I like the font, though! I hope you won't be offended but to me, the mint leaf in the second group looks a bit like a Christmas tree going up in flames :D Again, I'd like to see the flames simpler, a bit less tall and skinny and more flame-like looking if that makes sense. But you're heading in the right direction!


A suggestion for everyone - as Carl pointed out the logo needs to work on many backgrounds, perhaps you could consider that - three solutions I can think of are
- something with very strong, clean lines
- something that works very well in just one colour
- some sort of background incorporated into the logo, eg the whole thing sits on a rectangle, circle, rounded square... some sort of shape (a very simple flame, even!)

Many thanks again everyone, I'm looking forward to what you'll show me next!

[DesignGeneral]

Thanks for feedback. I'll be back shortly with revision

[DesignGeneral]

Here are 2 ideas.

[DesignGeneral]

here are some variations...

what do u think?

[Aaron]

Let's go in a different direction... ;)

[Tonya]

<img src='http://www.frobo.com/graphic_work/firemint/firemint3.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

[CBaker14]

will make the revisions, post soon...

Chris

[CBaker14]

Try this flaming mint leaf...:)

Chris

[Eagle]

*
:)

[Carl]

A different direction...

Carl...

[Carl]

This is a revision of my first two...

Carl...

[Tyler]

Why, you ask? I asked you first.

:ph34r:

[Tyler]

And a pixelated forging of mint and steel

[alexessory]

Hello again everyone,

Thanks for your continuing efforts :)

DG: I like the first one in the first new group and the third one in the second new group best out of yours so far - not quite sure what else to suggest for the moment!

Arthouse: Wow, that lolly (I guess you'd call it a candy) rocks! Love the "flames" in the center. Extremely impressive - we discussed the third meaning of (breath) mint when we were deciding on the name and we didn't really want to go for that angle but this is almost enough to change our mind. Would you mind trying something that has the casting/forging angle?

Dynagirl: I like the clever placement of the mark over the letter "M" and the way they are more integrated that way... I still think the leaf is letting down the overall look, could you try making it a little more leaf-like? It seems a little too symmetrical from top to bottom, perhaps?

Chris: That's closer to what I had in mind :) But could you leave the three "main flames", and instead of having the detail on each individual one quite small, have the "cut out" bits larger so there are only 2 or so on each side? Hope that makes sense - essentially the larger structure more how you had it (perhaps with the 3 individual ones more emphasised) but less detail in each one. Thanks!

Eagle: Thanks for joining in :) Love the angle you've taken and the sparkle on the mark, and I like the general feel of the font but can't help thinking it looks a bit disjointed - eg the M has a very different feel from the F and E. Do you have any other fonts you'd like to try?

Carl: Heh, I don't mind that - it almost looks like a family crest or something along those lines. I like your revision of the original one also - it's a shame to lose the coin because of the casting reference but it does look better without it. Can't think of anything else to suggest at the moment.

RS: Why? Because! :) Thanks to you also for joining in, that's a great entry. Love the shinyness and the curve between the two shapes, and the flame part... I like how you've integrated the mark and type but I do think the mark needs to be relatively smaller. I have some general comments on the name below also. Thanks for running with the pixel idea in the second version, can you make the pixels larger so they would still be recognisable at eg 32x32? Also, I think having both the pixels and the space between the shape as a border is a bit too much - could you join the shapes together with no space between in the pixel version?

General comments: Having thought about it a bit more, we do think we prefer the name to be presented as one word rather than two so would like the letters to all be the same font/colour/weight, *unless* there is some specific design reason for them not to be - eg the very strong cross-over type symmetry in Arthouse's first design. But generally, we want people to think "Firemint" not "Fire" and "Mint".

If anyone is looking for inspiration, we talked about another concept today which was a mint leaf with "exhaust" sort of flames like a hotrod car - so that it's clear the leaf is not going up in flames but is *causing* them? Not sure if you will find any ideas in that but I thought I'd throw it in there!

I'd also really love to see something that plays on the casting angle a bit more - perhaps with molten metal - so am hoping someone will feel like running with that... some of the designs submitted so far have been really good, but we're still hoping there will be one that really hits us! Please feel free to explore new concepts if you can think of anything.

Many thanks everyone, keep up the great work!

[CBaker14]

I understand what u mean....I'll post revisions soon...

chris

[Carl]

Hot Rod Mint!

Carl...

[Tyler]

:ph34r:

[Tyler]

:ph34r: :ph34r:

[Raja]

RAD, sweeet :tup:

Alex- Here's what I have so far...

[Christian]

Here's my first go at it! (if you like it I would need a day to vector it)

[Eagle]

*
A few fonts... ;)

[Tyler]

Holy crap Raja! :blink: I like the text on that on a lot.

:ph34r:

[CBaker14]

Here are a couple of revisions...let me know what you think...

Chris

[CBaker14]

here is the second revision/version...

Chris

[alexessory]

Hi again all,

Carl: Hmmm, probably a bit more literally hot rod than I had in mind :) I think the hot rod thing wasn't a good suggestion - sorry everyone, please ignore it!

RadicalSeed: I prefer the leaf "standing up" as you had it first rather than fallen on its side as it seems much stronger that way. That pixelated effect is what I had in mind, thanks! Did you have any other font suggestions?

Raja: Thanks very much for posting that revision, I was worried you'd gotten too busy with something else :) I love the way the shape fits into the circle.

Christian: Hi, thanks for joining in! It's quite important to us that the symbol can work on its own as well as with the font, and we're looking for a font that says "games", could you try something else? Also don't worry about converting anything to vector for now, as long as you're able to if we choose your design :)

Eagle: Thanks, I like the middle font best - is there an italic version of it? Did you have any other suggestions for the mark?

Chris: Thanks once again for your continuing hard work! The top design is looking much better now, but I'm sorry it still doesn't really grab me :( I'm not so keen on the dripping green goo on the second one, although it would be good for a horror game!

I'll post some general comments separately as it's turned into quite a novel - sorry to ask you guys to read so much in this competition...

Thanks again

alex

[alexessory]

I thought I would post our thoughts on our favourite designs so far to hopefully give everyone a better idea of what we're looking for.

Fonts: By far our favourite font is the one used by Rajah. Here's what we like about it: it combines curves and angles very well</li> the italics convey movement, energy, dynamism</li> there are no ascenders or descenders beyond the main body so it also looks strong, solid and powerful</li> the lowercase style e and m make it look cutting-edge and "now"</li>Other fonts we also like are the first one used by Arthouse, with the last ones used by Carl and DG sharing a more distant third place.

The mark: we like the following in no particular order: Michael's design</li> Arthouse's first "maple leaf", "hand", "breath mint" (we think it's not appropriate for us but we still love it!)</li> Raja's designs</li> Eagle's sparkly drop</li> RadicalSeed's half flame/half leaf</li>We really like the style displayed in each of these.

REALLY DETAILED BRIEF BELOW!
As always we encourage you to be creative if you have a fantastic idea, but we've also been doing some brainstorming and scribbling at this end. We've been discussing the various approaches I mentioned in my first post, and what we would really love to see (especially from the designers listed above if they are able to) is a design that has all of these characteristics:
uses the "ambiguous" shape that could be a flame and/or leaf at the same time</li> has veins like a leaf</li> set in a circle or "free standing"</li> a line or solid shape</li> in silver or gold with a high shine metallic finish</li> the tip of the shape pointing upwards straight or at an angle</li> a dynamic, organic looking shape</li>I have attached some example shapes to illustrate what I mean. Feel free to use this as a starting point - I've put the Illustrator file here for anyone that would like to use it: Example EPS file (http://www.methodic.com.au/temp/firemint_examples.eps)

We're now very rapidly approaching our deadline - I would have loved to have put a longer time on this contest and if absolutely necessary we will extend it to get it right. As I mentioned we have some stuff going to press and our alternative is to go with a "font only" logo until we get the whole thing done, which I don't really want to do... This is absolutely no reflection on you guys, it's entirely a problem caused by how long it took us to find a name we liked that we could also trademark! I'd love to hear your toughts on this - would you like more time? Or would it not make much difference?

Thanks

alex

[Christian]

Here's another go at it.

[Aaron]

I have been chewing on this for a while, and wanted to just get it out of my head. I'll begin to clean up the previous versions and start something more in the forging-minting area in a while.
Thanks,

a.h.

[Raja]

something tells me that alexessory is an experienced graphic designer, I mean, who else knows about ascenders :blink:

Arthouse, your candy logo, top notch, I wish I had come up with that!

[Aaron]

Thanks Raja. And I would have to agree, alexessory does seem to have some skills when it comes to the graphic arts... if not, who drew that example?

[alexessory]

<!--QuoteBegin-arthouse+Mar 14 2004, 10:22 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (arthouse @ Mar 14 2004, 10:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And I would have to agree, alexessory does seem to have some skills when it comes to the graphic arts... if not, who drew that example? [/b][/quote]
:D I guess it's a case of "it takes one to know one"! I did draw that example... I'm more of a web/interface designer but I make logos now and again too. I've been lurking on these boards for a while and admiring some of the amazing work - this logo is actually for my partner's company and I don't know about you, but I always have much more trouble doing something for myself or someone close to me than for clients! There's actually one particular competition on this forum that I'm itching to enter myself... hmmm... <_<

Also if you're wondering about the unisex name(s) - I'm female :)

Now, to comment on the most recent entries:

Christian: The outline around the font makes it look a bit gamier, but I'm still looking for something a little less corporate... I prefer the second placement. The mark looks a bit like one of those Rorschach inkblot tests which is cool!

Arthouse: I understand what you mean by getting it out of your head :) Here are my thoughts anyway in case it's useful: while I like the ying/yang reference to the opposing but integrated fire/mint concepts, it's a bit too spiritual/mystical for a high-tech company like this... I like how you've chunked up the type but the letter forms still don't say "games" to me.

I'll spend some time now looking for fonts and post any links I find!

One other thing re my previous minting/forging request - we got a bit carried away, minting is actually the process of stamping coins out of metal and from the sound of it doesn't involve any casting or forging as such. I still think it's a cool concept though, and I figure that if we didn't know the difference chances are other people may not either so it's OK to take some artistic license B)

Thanks again everyone,

alex

[Christian]

Just a quick change on the current font before I try any other ones. Give me your op on this one.

[alexessory]

Hi Christian, thanks for that - the font is still looking very "Arial" if you know what I mean... we are looking for something that will stand out in a crowd more. I have been spending just about all the time since my last post looking at fonts (I'm going fontcrazy! :blink: ) so I know how hard it is!

A note to everyone - if you don't have any other fonts that you think would work, don't worry about spending time trying to find one unless you have a hot lead. I am going to buy whatever font is used anyway, so although it's not ideal because I'd love the style of the font and mark to connect, if necessary I can change it afterwards. So please focus on the mark!

Thanks again...

alex

[Aaron]

;)

[Aaron]

And in black ->

[Bill]

Here ya go...

[Tyler]

A couple with more flame

:ph34r:

[Carl]

Another look...

Carl...

[Tyler]

Lost the stem and added the veins

:ph34r:

[alexessory]

Hi again everyone,

DEADLINE CHANGE TO 29 MARCH

OK, we're going to bite the bullet and use a placeholder logo in our printed materials so that we can give this contest a proper chance. Sorry to anyone who was rushing at the moment - and a huge thank you!

The new deadline is a *much* more reasonable two weeks so we can all slow down the (very much appreciated) frantic pace and give concepts time to incubate a bit if they need to. Should I ask Palmer to update the subject line?

Some comments...

Arthouse: I like how you've angled the "coin", that adds some great perspective. However the symbol looks a lot like a circular saw blade now - which is not a bad image for a games company, but we already have the fire and mint concepts so I don't want to introduce any more and confuse our clients :)

Bill: Hi, thanks for joining in - your tagline was very appropriate until I changed the due date just now!! As I mentioned you're all very welcome to use the image I posted as a starting point, but I was hoping you'd develop it further from that rather than just adding a colour fill and font... I prefer the first font you've used but (can you all guess what's coming?) I don't think it's gamey enough. The second one doesn't grab me at all. I'm not so keen on using the symbol to dot the I's although it's a creative use of it, it seems to trivialize it and we want to build a really strong brand.

RadicalSeed: Thanks for the revision, but I don't think the flame fill in the font works - it's just not recognizable at the sort of sizes we'd be using the logo at, and to me it also makes the whole logo appear more "gamez" than the sort of titles we'll be producing. I much preferred your cleaner version. If possible, could you try another symbol? I liked your first one very much and would love to see what else you can come up with :) The bottom font is much better too.

Carl: Nice one, I like how the symbol looks like a thin sheet of metal.

General comments:
For colours, I've been looking at the red/green combinations which is kind of the obvious one to use given the company name, but I think the strong red and green together look too Christmassy.

For composition, I think the mark to the left of the logo and not much taller than the text will probably work best for us.

Thanks for sticking with this, everyone!

alex

[Carl]

Color updates, layout, orientation updates.

Carl...

[Christian]

A quick draft of another version.

[Tonya]

<img src='http://www.frobo.com/graphic_work/firemint/firemint4.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

[alexessory]

Just popping in quickly to say - with the extended deadline, please feel free to go nuts and go wherever your inspiration leads you - I'd love to see whatever concepts you want to dream up! :lol2: My very specific suggestions throughout this post are still an idea that I think would work really well, but it was more because I was fretting about running out of time... so please run with that idea if it appeals to you, or try any kind of concept, colour, font, symbol, effect you like!

I'll be back in a few hours - got to get this placeholder stuff out the door...

[Michael]

Ok, I'm going nut's :D

Was trying to play on the letters F & M...


<img src='http://www.2square.co.uk/contests/firemint2.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />


Michael

[alexessory]

I'm back - my panic is over for now and I'm :yawn: looking forward to getting a decent number of hours sleep tonight!

Carl: I like the blueish tint you've added, it makes the symbol look even more metallic. I prefer that placement too. Not so sure about having the logo and font overlap though...

Christian: I like where you're heading with this, it looks very technical with the colours and embossing - I like the lime green but overall the logo is quite pale, can you make it stand out on a white background a bit more?

Dynagirl: I prefer this one to the shape of your previous entries, I like how you've integrated the flame and vein aspects. Not so keen on the fill of the font, can you try another way of making it look more 3D?

Michael: I like it! However could you keep the word as one, ie "Firemint" not "Fire" "Mint"? We really need it to be unambiguous that our name is the whole thing.

Thanks everyone, I'm looking forward to everyone going nuts :D

[Christian]

Here it is bigger and a fixed up a bit though still hasn't been polished up.

[Aaron]

back with a vengeance... ;)

[Tonya]

<img src='http://www.frobo.com/graphic_work/firemint/firemint5.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />



<img src='http://www.frobo.com/graphic_work/firemint/firemint6.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

[Raja]

tried to personify your nice shape somehow, really quickly

[Michael]

Raja :tup:

[Christian]

Variations. :D

[Tyler]

Raja you totally beat me to the punch there. Virtually identical to my sketch. <_<
Nice job by the way!


:ph34r:

[Raja]

thanks guys :)

[VisualSense]

Here are a couple designs for consideration....
-Diane

[Tyler]

wow. :notworthy: I must say this thread is on fire..........ba dum ching. :notworthy:

[alexessory]

<!--QuoteBegin-RadicalSEED+Mar 17 2004, 01:04 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (RadicalSEED @ Mar 17 2004, 01:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I must say this thread is on fire...[/b][/quote]
I'd have to agree - on Firemint, even!! (I know, I know, I couldn't resist) :lol2:

Christian: I like the shape, but I'm still worried that the whole would not pop off the page on a white background (although it really stands out on black). Also, for the overall dimensions of the font and mark together I'd really like to stick to an overall rectangular arrangement ie at least twice as wide as tall, as opposed to a square because it makes designing business cards etc etc so much easier...

Arthouse: Looking good :) I prefer the top arrangement. I really like the inside cutout shape, it positively flickers.

Dynagirl: Thanks for that revision - I much prefer the version in your second post with the coloured background and slight tilt to the flame. I'm still not sure about this one though, do you have any other ideas you'd like to try?

Raja: I love the glossy look of the flame, not so sure about the sparks/stars and I think the design you did originally was better than the one based on my scribble :) It's starting to look a little tree-like in the b&w version? Please feel free to explore!

Diane: Hi, thanks for joining in :) I love the shading of the lettering, please don't feel constrained by my previous requests re the specific shape as that was mainly driven by the very short deadline - go nuts and try whatever you like!

[alexessory]

Also, I just wanted to add - the logo does not have to include a flame or a mint leaf, those were just my suggestions and I would really love to see any other ideas you may have! Rough concepts are fine - don't feel you have to present something totally polished :)

[Christian]

Going for the commercial pepperminty color. Sorry, can't let go of the mint just yet! :lol2:

[Aaron]

Ditched the M from my first post...

[Aaron]

;)

[CBaker14]

Thought I'd try something without the flame per your suggestion...

Let me know what you think...

Chris

[Allred]

Hello

This idea stems from the industrial/foundry type mint.
strong but hip, and can be reduced very small.


(Admin edit - Image removed)

[Michael]

Allred your image is not loading but also any chance of reducing it in size ;)


Many thanks :)


Michael

[Allred]

good morning
I forgot to reduce my file
here it is again' thanks

[Michael]

Allred, I removed the image in the last post as you have posted the updated one ;)

Looking good :)


Michael

[alexessory]

Hi everyone,

Thanks to you all for continuing to work on this competition :) I hope I'm not being a pain!

Christian: This logo makes me think of an armor plated mint leaf for some reason (which is good!) I like you latest revision best but it's still not one of my favourites, sorry :( If you have any other ideas I'd love to see what else you've got, just a rough sketch is fine. Don't forget, you can try just about anything you like (I've put my few guidelines below again).

Arthouse: In your first one I preferred the original shape - I don't mind whether it looks like an "F", I thought the original had some really nice dynamics to it. I like the wording all in one colour though. I prefer the first to the second though.

Chris: Good on you for trying something different - thanks! This one doesn't really work for me, unfortunately :(

Allred: Thanks for joining the fun! I love the style of your sketch, it looks great. I'm not sure that a building going up in flames is appropriate to our image though :D I'd love to see some more concepts from you if you have a chance! (Thanks for the housekeeping Michael!)

Just to repeat those few guidelines...

- need a mark/icon/symbol that can sit on its own as well as with the font
- needs to be landscape shape
- the wording should convey the idea of "Firemint" not "Fire" and "Mint"
(edit)
- the mark/icon/symbol on its own should be recognisable at 32x32 pixels - if it's recognisable at 16x16, even better!
(/edit)

I have gone through all the posts again and I'm attaching the concepts that I like best - in no particular order! Hopefully that will be a useful visual guide to the sorts of shapes and treatments we're looking for...
(edit)Ooops, just realised I cut Raja's design off the bottom - sorry Raja, that one is definitely in there!(/edit)

[Christian]

Here a quick draft on the next idea! Leaves painted like individual flames and together they form a larger flamish shape. Give me your thoughts!

[Christian]

*Removed

[Christian]

Two other versions. :D

[Tyler]

One more kick at the text on this one

:ph34r:

[Christian]

Here's a more polished version of the design in general though still needs some tweaking! :D

[Eagle]

*
A revision with an italicised font as requested :)

[alexessory]

Hi again,

Christian: Wow, I really like that - especially the top and bottom versions in your first post, and the more polished version too. I've looked at it a few times now and been trying to work out what it reminds me of, and then it hit me... Mystery leaf (http://www.teens.drugabuse.gov/images/marijuana_leaf.jpg) :P I'm sure our gaming audience wouldn't have a problem with it, but it might be hard to explain to publishers that we advocate it "for medicinal use only"! :D Can you tweak it a bit to make it less similar?

Eagle & Rad: Thanks for the revisions - I've seen both of your work on some of the other threads and it looks great, do you have any other concepts you could whip up?

In general: I have found a font I like for the logo, Serpentine - so you can all relax regarding my impossifont requests! Please focus on the symbol and placement (again, unless of course you have a drop-dead-perfect font lying around that you want to try...)

I have been working flat out ont he web site for this company, I should be uploading it in the next 24 hours or so - I will let you all know when it's up and maybe it will help inspire you!

Many thanks again...

[Christian]

Glad you like them! Just took out one of the leaves/flames. Think it remains strong and faithful to the idea and at the same time got rid of the "Mystery Leaf" association ;) . Give me your thoughts!

[Carl]

alex,

Here is a bit of a departure from the smooth versions of my leaf. More abstract, more fractal.

Carl...

[Aaron]

;)

[Raja]

hi, besed on a concept from my portfolio that never came to fruition

[Bill]

Another idea...

[HarryD]

WOW wish my contest was getting the attention this one is :huh:

[CBaker14]

Havent had many more entries? Just let me know if you want to see anything any different from my designs...

Chris

[Mark]

My entry. :)

[alexessory]

Hi again everyone, sorry I've been a bit quiet! I have been working on the Firemint web site - I was hoping to have it done by now, it's not quite there yet (still missing some content) but hey, I've still got the whole night to get it done! Anyway, please feel free to take a look: Firemint under construction (http://www.firemint.com/services.php) *cough cough* excuse the dust.

Christian: Thanks for that revision, however purely from a design perspective I much prefer your previous design as it was really well balanced. Could you try tweaking it in another way?

Cadii: That's an original approach, thank you :) I like the general feel of it but it does seem a bit fragmented.

Arthouse: Hmmm, I liked the original one better! It looks a bit blobby - although I like the fused together idea...

Raja: I like the little devil guy :) That's an approach we hadn't thought of, we did throw around the idea of a little mascot but making him a devil makes a lot of sense with the whole flame element... having said that, I want to run this one past Rob (Firemint boss) before asking you to do any further work on it as I'm not sure what he'll feel about it. He's on the other side of the planet at the moment so it will take me a few hours to get his thoughts!

Bill: Thanks, but I'm not so keen on that one - it seems a bit less integrated than some of the other designs so I'm just seeing a burning leaf...? Could be me?

Mark: Thanks for that :) I don't mind the idea of the spirally fan-looking thing, but not keen on the idea of picking out one letter in the name... perhaps the elements of the spirally thing are a little thin to reduce to tiny sizes?

I would really love to get an idea of how you guys are feeling about this contest - do you think there will be many more entries and in particular, does anyone have a different concept they want to enter? Should we think about wrapping it up early? I don't have one outstanding logo in mind but I feel bad about getting you guys to do all this work, and only one of you will win the cash :unsure:

Thanks heaps everyone! :D

[Tonya]

Thought I'd have one more go at it.


<img src='http://www.frobo.com/graphic_work/firemint/firemint7.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

[Eagle]

*
Tonya! :notworthy: B)

[Mark]

Very nice Tonya! :tup: Very impressive!

[Aaron]

Tonya, B).

[Christian]

Nice work indeed Tonya :D


Here''s another modified one using "serpentine". Still working on another modification to disassociate it with the "m leaf". :D

[JaysonC]

Beautiful Tonya :tup: :tup:

[Christian]

Color vartiation.

[Carl]

Here's a play on the opposites of fire and mint.

Carl...

[VisualSense]

one more to consider :)
-Diane

[alexessory]

Hi all,

Raja: Rob agrees that the little mascot guy is a good idea, but he looks a little generic at the moment - I get the feeling I've seen him somewhere before. What ideas do you have for making him a bit more unique?

Tonya: I agree with the consensus, this one is definitely your best and has been added to the list of contenders - thanks for giving it another go, great job!

Arthouse: Sorry, I still prefer the original :unsure: I like the swooshy look of the flame part of it, but the F seems a little forced. Because of the outlining this one gets a bit blurry at the smaller size, too. Appreciate your effort though!

Christian: I think I'll have to take a fresh look at this one in a few days because all I can see now is what my mind fixated on the first time - the mystery leaf! And I should have specified that I meant Serpentine Oblique (Medium). Also, don't worry about the exact colour too much - I'm really just looking at the shape and any shading treatment, colour is easy to tweak later and I have a good imagination ;) so I don't want to ask you guys to go to extra effort.

Carl: I like the shiny look of the symbol very much and it's a clever play onthe reference to opposites, but it's a little too mystical/spiritual for our positioning ;)

Diane: I like the idea of an abstract pattern, but I think this one is a little too complex for us.

Once again, thanks to everyone for your continued efforts. Since nobody commented on moving the deadline I'll assume you're all happy for it to remain as it is, so we'll continue to accept entries until the 29th and then make a decision. Also, I've finished the Firemint site (http://www.firemint.com) if anyone is interested in taking a look at what the company does, exactly.

Thank you everyone!

[Raja]

<!--QuoteBegin-alexessory+Mar 23 2004, 05:45 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (alexessory @ Mar 23 2004, 05:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hi all,

Raja: Rob agrees that the little mascot guy is a good idea, but he looks a little generic at the moment - I get the feeling I've seen him somewhere before. What ideas do you have for making him a bit more unique?

[/b][/quote]
You probably seen him on my web site :)

I'll work on making him a bit more unique.

Thanks.

PS: the web site is looking good, is that your old logo on there?

[alexessory]

<!--QuoteBegin-Raja+Mar 24 2004, 11:40 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Raja @ Mar 24 2004, 11:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You probably seen him on my web site :)

I'll work on making him a bit more unique.
[/b][/quote]
Thanks Raja! I looked at your site but that's not it - the one I'm thinking of was blue and had a flatter oval shape, and I think was related to something to do with music. Sorry that's so vague.

PS: the web site is looking good, is that your old logo on there?

Thanks - yes, that's the one we're using at the moment! Hoping to replace it with something better soon :)

[Raja]

you mean this guy? :D

<img src='http://www.napster.com/images/gfc_prereg_catlgo.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

[alexessory]

<!--QuoteBegin-Raja+Mar 25 2004, 08:13 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Raja @ Mar 25 2004, 08:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> you mean this guy? :D [/b][/quote]
:lol: Funny how your mind works (or doesn't, as the case may be!) Yes, this may very well be the one I was thinking of - or not - I thought he was coloured in, no headphones, and a squatter oval... :lol: Who knows! Maybe I mentally merged a few different ones into a collage! Thanks for finding little Napster for me, anyway :)

[Christian]

Here's another attempt at a fix for the dissasociation :D

[alexessory]

Hi everyone,

Just a reminder that there are only two days to go! While there are some logos we like at this point there's no one clear winner and it's still anyone's game - so if you have another concept that you'd like to enter, please do (no further variations or refinements of existing entries are required at this point, thanks!) We still seem to have mostly variations on the flame/leaf theme, so we'd be extremely keen to see something unique along the lines of what Arthouse did with the "breath mint" or Allred's factory fire (where did you go, Allred?)

I'll mostly be hovering very close to the computer for the next 48 hours so please feel free to ask any questions or post rough concepts for feedback...

Cheers and thanks again

alex

[Carl]

Alex,

I have been sitting on this idea, mainly because I am not an illustrator and simply can't make it look dynamite.

What you see here is my crude reworking of some clipart to convey the idea. If you like it, maybe someone else here could draw it out for you.

He's a minty breath breathing dragon!

Carl...

[Aaron]

Something I've been chewing on...

[alexessory]

Cadii: :P That's really clever! It's a great idea, and I think it would work as a company mascot but because we have to be able to reduce it down to teeny tiny size I don't think it would work as a logo. :unsure: Thank you for giving it another go!

Arthouse: Not quite sure what to make of this one - is it another take on the breath mint idea?

[Aaron]

No breath mint on this one... just using colors to signify the cool part of the design, while the shape shows the fire. ;)

[Raja]

an idea for the mark

The hounds of hell.

[Michael]

Looking coooool Raja or should I say hot ;)

[MOZ]

__________________________________________________ ________________
MOZ SNEAKING IN UNDER THE DEADLINE :rolleyes:


very simple idea...big & small
please let me know what you think

MOZ

[beatz]

Hi - here's an idea :)

Thanks,

Frank

[Christian]

I know I'm cutting it close but wanted to get this draft in before deadline! :D It's the sun, well the surface of the sun in all its minty glory.

[beatz]

Color variations...

[DesignGeneral]

I'm back :D

[DesignGeneral]

B)

[alexessory]

Hello again! Great to see a last-minute flurry of activity :tup: I thought you guys might all be sick of Firemint by now!

Raja: Wow, love the energy in this design! Looks more like birds of hell though ;) Still, I can see a lot of potential in this one and the colour shading is great. Thanks!

Moz: Heh, I was wondering where you disappeared to. Thanks for giving it a go, but unfortunately this doesn't really have the kind of clean modern feel we're looking for.

Frank: Hi, thanks for getting in amongst it :) Looking good, I like your first concept best.

Christian: You're unstoppable :D Great concept - surface of the sun! I'm not so sure about the execution though, perhaps you'd need to show the whole sun with fiery minty corona to make it clearer what it is?

DG: Welcome back :) I can see what you're trying to do with the F & M, but I think they are difficult letters to represent in flame so not sure this will work... I like the effect you added in your second post, particularly the top image. Looks nice and 3D-ish.

[Mark]

One more to throw into the fire. :)

[JamesAZ]

I love the work in this thread! How come you guys aren't over in the Fat Guy Pillows thread??? :-)

http://www.designoutpost.com/forums/?showtopic=3557

[Carl]

Alex,

I don't know if you have Andes Mints in Australia, but I was just playing around and did this - for fun. This is not an entry!

Carl...

[Carl]

Alex,

My last shot with my silver coin.

I'm done...

Carl...

[casper]

Wow .... some amazing designs there :tup: Firemint will have their hands full trying to pick one!

[DesignGeneral]

something that will look good even in small sizes (icons....) ;)

[alexessory]

Hi everyone,

A massive big thank you to everyone who submitted an entry (or ten!) for our competition. The judges are now conferring B) so - no more entries, thank you! We will announce the winner in about 4-6 hours.

See you then!

alex

[alexessory]

<!--QuoteBegin-cadii+Mar 29 2004, 09:19 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (cadii @ Mar 29 2004, 09:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't know if you have Andes Mints in Australia, but I was just playing around and did this - for fun. This is not an entry!
[/b][/quote]
:lol: I'm not sure whether we have those particular ones, but we definitely have choc-mint concoctions along those lines.... (there needs to be an eating smilie!) Thanks for posting it, you've given us a good laugh (and a merchandising idea :P )

[alexessory]

Hi everyone, sorry it's taking longer to announce the winner than we had expected (isn't that always the case) - we have narrowed the list down to three designs and are just taking care of some final technicalities before we announce the winner - stay tuned! :D

[alexessory]

Well, I could have saved myself that last post because we've just got everything sorted out!

Before I announce the winner, I would really like to say very sincerely that I am absolutely blown away by the enormous effort put in by so many designers. We are truly, really honoured - did we break all records for the number of posts? I'm sure we did for the number of views (although about half of that was probably me staring at all the great entries over and over again... :blink:)!

Everyone involved with Design Outpost should be extremely proud to be associated with such a professional and dedicated group, and I only hope that I wasn't too demanding - hopefully you saw it as encouraging your creativity rather than being a pain :rolleyes: I would also like to say thank you to the other contest holders who took the time to visit and comment in various forums - I am somewhat embarrassed by our riches :blush: but I guess I was born under a lucky star because everything seemed to come together just right to create a killer contest (getting a little emotional now that the end of this experience is drawing near!)

Anyway, I will stop rambling and announce the winner:

2square - Michael (http://www.designoutpost.com/forums/?showtopic=3385&view=findpost&p=60388)

Congratulations, and many many thanks! (Just a few small revisions please :innocent:)

It was extremely difficult to choose among such great designs, but our two other finalists were Christian's Mystery leaf (http://www.designoutpost.com/forums/?showtopic=3385&view=findpost&p=63719) and Tonya's Flame Leaf (http://www.designoutpost.com/forums/?showtopic=3385&view=findpost&p=62590). I would also like to give a special mention to Arthouse's Breath Mint (http://www.designoutpost.com/forums/?showtopic=3385&view=findpost&p=59369) - we were quite tempted for a while! B)

Again - many thanks, and I'll miss you! (Of course I'm addicted to DO now so I'll continue lurking on future contests to see what other great stuff you get up to...)

alex

[Michael]

err...wow!! :o Thanks, I can not believe mine was chosen there were so many cool entries..

Thanks Alex and thank you to everyone else for the fight :D


*Moving to the Revisions forum*

[Raja]

<!--QuoteBegin-2square+Mar 31 2004, 02:22 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (2square @ Mar 31 2004, 02:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> err...wow!! :o Thanks, I can not believe mine was chosen there were so many cool entries..

Thanks Alex and thank you to everyone else for the fight :D


*Moving to the Revisions forum* [/b][/quote]
I was quietly rooting for your entry, 2 square

I was tossing it up between you and Tonya

:tup:


Kudos to a great contest holder

:tup:

[Raja]

and the mint by Arthouse was nothing short of genius :tup:

[alexessory]

It was a *really* tough choice, but in the end we felt yours met our criteria best - it looks really professional, and also reduces to tiny sizes very well due to its simplicity. Again, many thanks - you really hit the mark *boom boom* :D

We are actually planning to put our existing font treatment with your mark, so I don't need to bother you with any revisions to the text part. For the mark, could you make the following changes to your middle design (the orange one)? I really value your opinion on this so if you think any of these mess it up please let me know...

- could you remove the small gap between the main body of the "F" and its horizontal stroke so that both orange parts are joined together, and instead outline the stroke to create a keyline around the whole "F".

- can we see a variation with the "F" being the middle of the three "flame" elements as well as the bottom one? What do you think of that variation?

- could you smooth the outline of the three elements a little more as at the moment it's a little bumpy, particularly along the bottom - I was thinking of something that looks more like one shape cut into three separate parts, if that makes sense?

Once again, many thanks! :tup:

[alexessory]

<!--QuoteBegin-Raja+Mar 31 2004, 01:27 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Raja @ Mar 31 2004, 01:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Kudos to a great contest holder

:tup: [/b][/quote]
:blush:

*phew* thanks Raja - big sigh of relief to hear that I behaved reasonably well! ;)

[Michael]

Thanks Raja means a lot coming from you ;)


Alex I will post the revisions soon, just checking through 3 pages worth of new posts :rolleyes:

[alexessory]

Thanks Michael, no rush so feel free to do more urgent things first - we don't have a hard deadline for this (at the moment!)

[Christian]

Congrats Michael, certainly a win to be proud of! :tup:

[Tonya]

Although I do admit, I was actually rooting for my own design over yours :lol2: I must offer a well deserved CONGRATULATIONS to you Michael :tup: Nicely done!

[Michael]

Thanks Christian, Tonya it was a tough but exciting contest :)

[JamesAZ]

Congratulations! Beautiful logo!

I hope everyone is now freed up to come do some work on my Fat Guy Pillows contest! ;-)

[Eagle]

*
See Michael...told you you 'had it'! ;)

[Michael]

Cheers Mark..



Alex I haven't forgotten I will hopefully be posting the revisions in the morning (GMT) :)

[Raja]

Eagle, can you believe he almost didnt enter this one

[Eagle]

:rolleyes: ;)

[alexessory]

<!--QuoteBegin-2square+Mar 31 2004, 04:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (2square @ Mar 31 2004, 04:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Alex I haven't forgotten I will hopefully be posting the revisions in the morning (GMT) :) [/b][/quote]
Thanks Michael - but don't stress, there's really no rush! :)

[Michael]

Ok finally get round to doing it..


Are these any better? Also do you have any colours in mind?


<img src='http://www.2square.co.uk/contests/firemint3.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />



Michael

[alexessory]

Almost perfect :)

I really like how you've brought the three elments to more of a point - could you combine the two versions? The top left edge of the one on the left, the bottom right edge of the one on the right and the F as the bottom-left element (your original design was better than my requested change, sorry!) I think that will be it, then. Don't worry about colours, we are still mucking around with Pantone swatches...

How did you achieve the glossy look on the bottom version? In Photoshop? If you use CS, is it a style we could apply? It looks great :tup: Will you send the finished file as an *.eps?

We are going away for the weekend (leaving in about 5 hours - it's Friday lunch time here) so no rush on the final tweaks, I won't be able to look again until Monday - sorry for the delay! Although if you can get them through before we go we can wrap this up and get you paid B)

Thanks again

alex

[Michael]

You may have already left, it's the morning here :rolleyes:

Will do the revisions, as for the glossy effect it has all been done in Illustrator ;)

[Michael]

Hello again, any better?


<img src='http://www.2square.co.uk/contests_old/firemint3b.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

[alexessory]

<!--QuoteBegin-2square+Apr 2 2004, 09:10 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (2square @ Apr 2 2004, 09:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hello again, any better? [/b][/quote]
Not better, perfect :D This is exactly what I hoped for. Could you send me the Illustrator file, and for the glossy effect as well? :tup:

Many thanks! Yay!

[Michael]

Thank you, I shall send the files shortly :)

*Update: Link to files sent*


Michael

[alexessory]

Many thanks, I have received the files and opened them with no problems!

:tup: Michael, you're a star!

alex

[alexessory]

Hi everyone!

I thought Michael and perhaps some others who took part in the contest would be interested to see how the logo ended up looking after some more tweaking... *drum roll* I am pleased and proud to present FIREMINT!

Firemint (http://www.firemint.com/)

Thanks again to everyone, hope you are all well :)

alex

[MOZ]

VERY NICE! I still get hungry for girl scout cookies when I see it!

[Michael]

Yep I agree very nice, much better then my effort ;)

[alexessory]

Just a few tweaks, it's still very much your effort - and we couldn't have got there without you! :tup:

[Michael]

:blush: