Hardwood Flooring Site Banner $250 *Project Over*

[HardwoodGuy]

(Admin code added by Palmer - 14309050)

Now, that all the $$ is out of the way. Thank you Palmer...Here's what I need.



Logo/banner for hardwood flooring website.

Approximate Size: 550 x 60
Approximate Weight: Under 8K--Lower the better

Also need format for embroidered shirts with approximate width at 300 pixels--or whatever you feel is appropriate. You guys are the experts.

Site url-- http://www.hardwoodinstaller.com

Need a logo that incorporates the title and some kind of illustration of flooring and tools in action. I prefer a graphic in the background of plank hardwood floors. Here's a photo to work from...

http://www.hardwoodinstaller.com/hardwoodi...mpaBChry041.jpg (http://www.hardwoodinstaller.com/hardwoodinstaller/TampaBChry041.jpg)

There are also many photos to work from in the photo galleries on the site...

Colors?

I need something not too bold and flashy. Conservative and leaning to a burgandy color already on the site, but open to suggestions as I've been told current color is difficult to distinguish.. Background color should match webpage background Color #E0CDBE


3/15- looking forward to ideas! Questions? I live on the web. Will check frequently.

3/16- Thanks Todd! Unfortuinately for some reason I cannot respond to these posts so I'll put my feedbeck here for the time being



Diane:

Thanks for your design. Unfortunately for some reaon I cannot respond in the forum to my own contest for some reason. I'd prefer to keep the text("Consumer guide...") out of the picture, as it's used for search engines and I tweak it every now and then. Saw and hammer? No---it's basic carpentry stuff--not what I'm looking for.

If you use google images search for "stanley bostitch Miiifs" those are the preferred tools in the business. I'm not crazy about the font either. Also looking for some kind of hardwood flooring graphic in the background. Image of several planks on a 30º or something.

Hope this doesn't complicate things.

Ken Fisher

[toddski07]

Hello Ken...aka HardwoodGuy!

Glad to see you made your way over to DO and decided to give it a try. You are offering a fair price for the competition...$250 is good. I know the designers are crazy busy right now so hang in there if you wondering where are all the designs! LOL.

Note to the designers....I gave Ken a heads-up about DO in another forum we happen to both participate and cross paths in. He was looking for recommendations on places to have some graphic design work completed. I'm glad to see some new business swing to DO...I'm always droppin' the word wherever I can. :tup: Treat HardwoodGuy with the best....of course you always treat the contest holders well so I have no worries. And if you are ever re-doing your floors...I think Ken can probably provide you with some good advice.

Tip for ya Ken....from my own personal experience and from what I have seen on the forums...providing timely, detailed, and polite responses/feedback to the designers will make things progress smoothly. At first it might seem a little strange and difficult trying to clearly communicate "design" elements just by typing text...but eventually you get the knack for it. I wish you the best of luck on your Logo/Header Ken.

Todd

[toddski07]

Ken-

One other suggestion...you might want to ask the Admin of DO to alter your contest title to be a little more descriptive.

Current: Need Logo/Banner Design

Suggest: Hardwood Installer Logo/Banner Design

That way when designers are looking down the list of contests it is a little more memorable. Just an idea.

Todd

[VisualSense]

Here's a design for your consideration.... :)
-Diane

[DesignGeneral]

I'll have something later :)

[HardwoodGuy]

Looking forward to it DG:)

3/16- Thanks Todd! Unfortunately for some reason I cannot respond to these posts so I'll put my feedbeck here for the time being.

3/16 AM--Yo hoo FIXED..



Diane:

Thanks for your design. I'd prefer to keep the text("Consumer guide...") out of the picture, as it's used for search engines and I tweak it every now and then. Saw and hammer? No---it's basic carpentry stuff--not what I'm looking for.

If you use google images search for "stanley bostitch Miiifs" those are the preferred tools in the business. I'm not crazy about the font either. Also looking for some kind of hardwood flooring graphic in the background. Image of several planks on a 30º or something.

Hope this doesn't complicate things.

Ken Fisher

[Goodhaus]

please let me know if this is going in the right direction…Thanks

[HardwoodGuy]

GG:

Hey, I like that shadow effect! Not crazy about the tools shown. Need the one mentioned in my last post. It's a specialized hardwood flooring tool used for fastening flooring pneumatuically(air pressure). Also would be kinda cool to see the airhose wrap around the title itself. Maybe you could lighten up the hardwood floor background so the url itself is seen better? I was looking more for an illustration and not an image. Something that's hand drawn or sketched?

Would like to see more font selections.

Keep 'em coming :D

[VisualSense]

Just an FYI, you mentioned needing the design for use on embroiderd shirts also, and embroidery has some limitations on the type of artwork that can be used. Depending on the company, some don't allow outlines... no shadows ... no gradients, etc. So you'll probably need to have one logo for the banner that incorporates shadows and such, and a MUCH simpler version for embroidery. :) I've had to entirely redesign logos in the past to work with embroidery....
-Diane

[HardwoodGuy]

Diane:

I have been thinking the same! I don't think shadows would look right anyway. Let's keep that paticular design(for shirts) without any background...Btw, I also like the way the .com sits on it's side.

[Goodhaus]

HardwoodGuy, thanks for the feedback and suggestions. Here is a different idea like you requested…just let me know of changes or if this is going the way you want it. :D

[VisualSense]

Here's a redesign using the requested tool...
-Diane

[HardwoodGuy]

Thanks Folks!

This is fun and I'm sure I'll be back for more work after this contest is complete by the looks of the progress and ideas.

Looking nice. The tool itself should be colored orange like what Diane has done. What happened to the .com that was on it's side? That was very good and is considered a keeper. Not crazy about the nails on the letters H and I. The hardwood floor background(GG) is beginning to shape up and I do like the white effects on the outline of the letters. You must have been reading my mind.

What happeneed to the shadow effect? That's a keeper too! Need more font examples--maybe I'll snoop around to help out.

I was kinda thinking you could use the air hose and incorporate it in the (2) l's of the title?

Here's a font I like...

<img src='http://www.1001freefonts.com/fontsdisplay/artbrush.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

[Aaron]

Something different... I went for the classic carpenter look with the planer and the closeup of the wood. The logo is where I incorporated the wood plank at an angle, slipping into formation.

Any thoughts?

a.h.

[HardwoodGuy]

Not what I'm looking for AH..but thanks. More on the lines of what GG is doing with the background, but I prefer the flooring itself to "run" left to right in the background at some kind of inverted angle.

[Tonya]

<img src='http://www.frobo.com/graphic_work/hardwood/hardwood1.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

[HardwoodGuy]

Thanks for the submission Tonya, but I have already indicated some of my desires from the designs offered. Background looks too plastic for lack of a better term. A more rustic floor background could work along with my other suggestions. If anyone wants to talk...call my toll free # 888-420-9663

[Goodhaus]

HardwoodGuy, thanks for the feeback…it really helps. :) I made some changes as you requested, please let me know what you think so far.

[HardwoodGuy]

Doug:

This is shaping up! I suppose running the airhose around the (2) L's with the font I mentioned wouldn't look right but that's okay...Let's disregard that unless you think it will work and have some illustrations Let's see what that font(middle one) looks like on top of the hardwood graphic background with the shadow lighting effect.

Also need a different background effect as I mentioned earlier..something more rustic with the flooring going right to left. I'll enclose a few images for you to work with. Incidentally the mallet(white handle) should be reverse...the white side down.

Maybe we can "coil" the airhose?

http://www.floorbase.com/BRUCE/Plank%20Woo...%20CD2/ROCK.JPG (http://www.floorbase.com/BRUCE/Plank%20Wood%20Floors/JPG%20LR%20CD2/ROCK.JPG)

http://www.quartersawnantiquepine.com/KITC...WIDEPLANKAL.JPG (http://www.quartersawnantiquepine.com/KITCHENWIDEPLANKAL.JPG)

Thanks!

Ken Fisher

[Aaron]

Thought I'd give it another shot...

[HardwoodGuy]

Not what I'm looking for Art, but thanks for the effort. Colors are too much like Halloween. How ya doing today Doug? Lookin' for something from you :tup:

[Goodhaus]

HardwoodGuy, still plugging away…will post again shortly! :D

[Aaron]

Should I just give it a rest? ;)

[Goodhaus]

HardwoodGuy, great to have suggestions:rolleyes:…I gave it a whirl and coiled the airhose around the L's and implemented a rustic look flooring instead. Thanks again for feeback!

[HardwoodGuy]

Art:

It looks like Doug has the right ideas. :(

Doug:

I'm thinking I can go to 600 pixels wide, but the height is too much. Maybe we could spread out the design to 600? Can we move the lettering up on to the wood background so it's near 90 pix??I would like to try to keep the Kb low, but I realise maybe I'll have to settle with 12-15K?

That darned hose doesn't look right with those L's. I'll take some digital pics to give you an idea what I'm referring to with coiling.

Thanks again

[HardwoodGuy]

Pic:

I've added a new element(air compressor) that we could place on the right side of the banner, with the hose connecting to the flooring stapler(tool) Let's keep the manufacturer name off unless they want to pay for it.

[DesignGeneral]

here is what I have so far. Let me know if I'm on the right way.

Thanks

[HardwoodGuy]

DG:

Doug is on the right track. If you look through the discussions you should get an idea what I like and what I'm looking for. Doug is getting pretty darned close to the finish line.

[DesignGeneral]

My entry isn't finished yet.

Just let me know if u like the font I used and the way I made the H.

I'll have a finished entry tomorrow.

[HardwoodGuy]

Okay Folks:

Let me try to explain what I like. Perhaps I haven't been clear enough. In the first banner Doug submitted, I like the dark shadow effect with the light. That's looks like a keeper. Also, the .com on it's side is a keeper.

On Mar 17 2004, 01:55 PM Doug has the right idea again with the second font graphic. I'm pretty happy with that one and looks like a keeper.

On Mar 18 2004, 10:34 AM I see a background(wood floor) that I do like. Let's forget about the hose wrapping around the 2 (L's)

There's only one thing that is bugging me..How to incorporate the flooring stapler with mallet(white handled tool) and compressor. I'll try to explain and if you guys have been busy working on it I aplologize because this will change things.

Let's see if I can create an image that works and explains better..

[HardwoodGuy]

Another element but it should not change things much. With the background I need one or two boards staggered as shown in the image below. Questions?

[HardwoodGuy]

Staggering something like this...

[HardwoodGuy]

Okay...another pic....Maybe we can get a hand holding the tool? The picture shows an older version of installing wood floors before pneumatic tools were available.

[Goodhaus]

HardwoodGuy, working on the changes…with the compressor and staggering boards. Really good to get all this feedback :D

[Goodhaus]

Here are the revisions, with the added elements it is getting kind of crowded in that little space given so here is the best I got. ;)

[HardwoodGuy]

Doug:

Top logo is fine, but remove the shadows(unless it will work with embroadiary?) and tools. Chances are good this is a final for the for shirts I mentioned. I need to see what it looks like with the background color mentioned on the first page. This will be the same color as the shirts.

Banner---The stapler tool on the left should be turned around and sit on the edge of the board where the tongue sticks out. See the little doo hickey on the bottom of the "boot" The handle has to be seen(shrink the image?). Here'a another image of a compressor that could be used.



Nice work ;)

[HardwoodGuy]

Different compressor to fit in area...

[Goodhaus]

HardwoodGuy, yes with the embroidered logo no shadow should be used. Are you implying that a board should be added to the logo also on the top logo?
I can make changes to the compressor as indicated--did you want yellow instead of orange?
Thanks

[Goodhaus]

Just in case this is what you are looking for…here is the revised logo with no drop shadow, added board and using other compressor…please let me know if this is good. Thanks :)

[HardwoodGuy]

Doug:

Let's get this moving faster so we all can save time and effort. This is now going in the wrong direction. If you go to my site there is a toll free number(shown on every page) you can call. You can reach me this weekend. and this evening until 8PM EST

Regards,
Ken Fisher

[Goodhaus]

According to out designer guidelines, unfortunately, designers are not permitted to private communication during contest, only after there is a winner. Please let me know of the changes you desire, the suggestions you have offered have been great. :)

[HardwoodGuy]

Doug:

I suppose their rules make sense, but it leads to more work by you and I, unless I just call you a winner right now?

But the design need alot more work.

[Goodhaus]

FYI, there is a revisions forum where a winner is selected to complete the work. Let me know how to further assist with this as this has been really exciting to work on and also to learn about. Thanks!

[HardwoodGuy]

Okay folks..thanks to a suggestion from another in the business, who by the way is looking in along with others(more business to you!), I need you folks to look at the photo galleries on the website. The part that needs work is the hardwood flooring background.

If I've turned off others by mentioning Doug is almost a lock--let's disregard that. Bring 'em on. Forget the tools for now and concentrate on the hardwood floor background.

There are two photo galleries on the website to look at.

http://www.hardwoodinstaller.com/hardwoodi...inishphotos.htm (http://www.hardwoodinstaller.com/hardwoodinstaller/prefinishphotos.htm)

http://www.hardwoodinstaller.com/hardwoodi...inishphotos.htm (http://www.hardwoodinstaller.com/hardwoodinstaller/sitefinishphotos.htm)

The one below is probably what I'm trying to achieve..The floor itself, or the direction is going left to right at a 30º angle or thereabouts..


http://www.hardwoodinstaller.com/hardwoodi...r/Philly102.jpg (http://www.hardwoodinstaller.com/hardwoodinstaller/Philly102.jpg)

Regards,
ken Fisher

[HardwoodGuy]

Hope some of you others are still interested?

[DesignGeneral]

still interested :)

[HardwoodGuy]

Nice to hear :tup: I'll probably extend the contest period as the timing isn't as important now, depending on the rules.

By the way folks. I'll check in at least 3-4 times a day looking for new goodies.

[Michael]

Deadline extended to 31st March :)

[HardwoodGuy]

Thanks Michael...but it looks like the interest is lost?? Unless some folks have some goodies to show soon.

[HardwoodGuy]

Nuttin' for almost a week :tdown:

[Tonya]

I have a suggestion that might help focus the contest better and get more designers interested.

What you're looking for in this contest is really 2 different things: a logo and a website header. The ideas you have for the header, with realistic wood planking and tools, are great and will look really nice on your site. But as a logo that you also want to use on shirts, those ideas are really too complex.

So my suggestion is that you focus on a nice brandable logo first and then as you narrow down some finalists, have those designers create website headers with the logo on them as the last part of the competition. In the end, you'll get a great logo that can be used for any application (website, shirts, letterhead, etc) as well as a nice looking header for your site. In fact, if you segment the contest this way, designers could even use photos and/or detailed illustrations in the header because there wouldn't be any concern over how it would reproduce in embroidery (you'd have a more concise logo for that purpose).

What do you think?

[msaygin]

Hi,
I am working on that one, thanks for the patience.

[HardwoodGuy]

Dynagirl:

Thanks for coming back. I've already established the logo is a keeper(Doug)--unless someone else comes up with something different that blows me away. Look at Doug's last design I enjoyed...

It's the one in the middle of the graphic dated Mar 17 2004, 01:55 PM. However the shadows need to be removed for the shirts. We need to work on the background for the banner and go from there. I've mentioned one image link that I would like everyone interested in to look at and work from that.

Here it is again...

http://www.hardwoodinstaller.com/hardwoodi...r/Philly102.jpg

I have many pictures in the photo galleries mentioned on the website, yet I don't see many taking advantage of it according to my logs.

http://www.hardwoodinstaller.com/hardwoodi...inishphotos.htm

http://www.hardwoodinstaller.com/hardwoodi...inishphotos.htm

In in the process of a design overhaul for the site and need other work done as well Such as small sales banners sized 120 x 150--- 120 x 300---500 x 90 etc....I've done the ones already on the site but need the sparkle that I can't come up with. I'd like to get another contest going sometime soon for them.

While I realize the subject may be one many are unfamiliar with, there must be 500 images on the website to get ideas from.

Kalvin--Looking forward to it.

[msaygin]

Hi,

Here is my entry;

<img src='http://mehmetsaygin.com/do/banner1.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

<img src='http://mehmetsaygin.com/do/banner2.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

<img src='http://mehmetsaygin.com/do/banner2a.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

I thought that font suits better but I also add another version with your favourite font.In the third version I changed the size of the tool on the right.

Best,

[HardwoodGuy]

Kalvin:

Lookin' great. I'm glad you picked up on the tongue and groove. Not only that-- I like the way you've seen the direction and plank appearance the way I have attempted to describe. Still prefer the burgandy lettering and not red and black. Where's my .com?

Not sure about the tools...have anything else?

Thanks for chipping in--keep the ideas rolling :tup:

[msaygin]

Hi,

I am glad we are on the right direction.
I changed the type color and add ".com"

<img src='http://mehmetsaygin.com/do/banner3.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

Now I wonder if you don't like the drawings of tools or you don't like the composition and their positions or you want different tools?

And here is another version without tools to help you think about tools;

<img src='http://mehmetsaygin.com/do/banner3b.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

Best,

[HardwoodGuy]

Kalvin:

Turn the .com as seen for the logo I like. I'd like to see some more background color and image ideas.

You have me rejuvinated..I was beginning to wonder why there wasn't any interest. :tup:

Let's center the logo with the background.

[HardwoodGuy]

Just checkin' in to see what's happening :D

[DesignGeneral]

Hi there,

Sorry for delay. Here is what I have so far. Let me know if I'm on the right way.

Thanks

[HardwoodGuy]

Okay..gotta end this thing--time runnin' out

Forget the background with hardwood and tools

Doug..Work on that simple artbrush image dated
Posted: Mar 17 2004, 01:55

It's the one in the middle without the shadows. I need this within a day or so to get my shirts done. I'll call it quits when you get this one together.

As for the banner---I would like to use that image as well--and sized at 550 pix or so wide.

[Goodhaus]

Thanks for the feedback. So just to get this right, I will be submitting the middle artbrush font logo without a drop shadow for shirts and banner 550 px. Should see a post on monday 5/5/04.

[Goodhaus]

Here is the simple artbrush logo image you requested. The bottom is sized to 550 x 65 px and can be resized if need be.

[HardwoodGuy]

That'll work..thanks!

Proceed to collect your wampum

[Goodhaus]

Please Private Message me with the e-mail address and I will send you the vector and psd files.
Thanks!

[Palmer]

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HardwoodGuy, just to clarify, have you selected G)(G as the winner?

[HardwoodGuy]

Yes

[Palmer]

Thanks, I'll move this to the revisions forum then.