National Youth Organization "Plural" - Prize: $100

[M. Johansson]

Hey everyone! (Admin code added by Palmer - Y134980A)

I need a logo for an organization called "Plural". It's a new national support organization here in Sweden to assist smaller youth organizations/clubs that arranges forms of art, such as theatre, music, dance and such. The logo may be anything you like, but it is preferable if it meets at least some of these criteria:

1. It should communicate multiplicity. (as in “many”)
2. It should appeal to young people (don’t overdo this one, though)
3. It should look artsy and/or cultural.
4. Don't look to corporate.

Deadline for submissions is Friday the 28th of March. I realize this is a tight deadline, but I’m presenting it to the board of directors that day, and they will be the ones picking the winner. You need to be able to submit a high-res version of the logo before the 28th, too, as I will most likely be presenting them to the board in printed form. If the board likes yours, I will pay you 100$.

Okay! Let’s get ready to rrrummmbleeee!

[john]

Some initial ideas/brainstorming

[Juvanescence]

Using multiplicity as a starting point. Both logos are artistic, and would probably appeal.....

[M. Johansson]

Sorry for the delayed response - I'm not getting email notifications from this board. I'm vBulletin lazy, I guess.
Pretty nice ones. I don't like the fact that johns little dude looks like he is wasted/dead or something with the starry eyes. ;)

I'll try to think of some more detailed feed back later.

[Palmer]

Originally posted by M. Johansson@Mar 22 2003, 06:27 AM
I'm not getting email notifications from this board.
Not sure why. Email notification on these forums is a little buggy. :unsure: This link (http://www.designoutpost.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=10&t=214&s=) might help. You may have it turned off in your control panel.

[sparkie]

Here's my go. The instruments and other items are sitting atop the letters in this design. It also incorporates the colors of the flag of Sweden.

[M. Johansson]

Nice, but way too advanced for my liking. It would be very hard to use in small format. Also, it looks to much classical-music, which has two problems - (1) the target market rarely touch classical music, and (2) the ones not producing music may feel like the organization is not for them.

[M. Johansson]

Originally posted by j-design@Mar 21 2003, 02:22 PM
Using multiplicity as a starting point. Both logos are artistic, and would probably appeal.....
I really like the second one - the one with the dots.. Try to add some colour?

[crimsondesigner]

I worked on a few concepts for the logo. Included min this post are three very different ideas. Please give feedback on these as soon as you're able. It is saved at 300 dpi so it can be safely printed. Thank you for your time.

Erika

[Juvanescence]

A few different colours, I think this type of logo works better with just the two colours. Any more and I think it becomes a mess, and might detract from the imagery.

What do you think?

[M. Johansson]

Originally posted by crimsondesigner@Mar 23 2003, 02:31 AM
I worked on a few concepts for the logo. Included min this post are three very different ideas. Please give feedback on these as soon as you're able. It is saved at 300 dpi so it can be safely printed. Thank you for your time.

Erika
I like the concept of the second one best, but it looks a little unfinished and is too blocky. Perhaps if it was round? I don't know.


Also, keep in mind that it's not me who will be deciding on which logo is the best - I'll present every sample to the board.

[M. Johansson]

Originally posted by j-design@Mar 23 2003, 04:49 AM
A few different colours, I think this type of logo works better with just the two colours. Any more and I think it becomes a mess, and might detract from the imagery.

What do you think?
Hmm, yeah, you are probably right. But it works pretty good with all colours.

I think the concept with dots is the best, overall. I had an entry submitted to me with little dudes, too, which worked pretty good too.

[Palmer]

I'm assuming the one with "little dudes" is not from someone at this site right? Because they are required to post their entries.

[M. Johansson]

Originally posted by Palmer@Mar 23 2003, 06:39 AM
I'm assuming the one with "little dudes" is not from someone at this site right? Because they are required to post their entries.
Yes, it was from SitePoint.

[chelle]

*Image Removed*

[Zoe]

Hi - Here is an idea that came to me. Comments welcomed.

http://www.demexdesign.com/plural_logo.gif

[Raja]

:blink: <img src='http://www.webfellaz.com/4fun/plural.gif[/img]

[TwistedNewMedia]

Heres my go.

[M. Johansson]

Originally posted by chelle@Mar 23 2003, 07:26 AM
Hi here is my entry in diffrent colors and fonts. B)
Get that stinkin' Nike Swoosh out of my thread!!! :D

It's very nice as nike swooshes go, though.

[M. Johansson]

Originally posted by Demex@Mar 23 2003, 08:41 AM
Hi - Here is an idea that came to me. Comments welcomed.

http://www.demexdesign.com/plural_logo.gif
That first one is VERY nice. It could use some simplification, though.

[M. Johansson]

Originally posted by ubergerlgeek@Mar 23 2003, 03:30 PM
Heres my go.
Nicely made, but it's not a nuclear plant you're making a logo for.

[Radu]

Let me know what you think.

[M. Johansson]

Originally posted by wwwzone@Mar 25 2003, 07:16 AM
Let me know what you think.
I like it. A little unpractical shape, though. How would it look when it's horizontally aligned?

[Radu]

A little unpractical shape, though.
True :blush:

How about this one?

[martincrumlish]

Hi,

Here are some versions I made. let me know what you think.

//Martin

[Huhhso]

Hi here are my ideas for your logo
thanks!
:D

[kadu]

I've designed two logos...

[kadu]

And this one...

[chelle]

B)

[M. Johansson]

Originally posted by wwwzone@Mar 25 2003, 07:44 AM
A little unpractical shape, though.
True :blush:

How about this one?
Better, but why don't you try writing it on one of the P:s?

[M. Johansson]

Originally posted by martincrumlish@Mar 25 2003, 08:24 AM
Hi,

Here are some versions I made. let me know what you think.

//Martin
All of them are very good - I don't think you should change any of them really - I'll present them to the board in their current form.

[M. Johansson]

Originally posted by Huhhso@Mar 25 2003, 01:03 PM
Hi here are my ideas for your logo
thanks!
:D
To be honest, that's not so much a logo but letters arranged in a wierd manner. Very complicated to brand.

[M. Johansson]

Originally posted by kadu@Mar 25 2003, 01:38 PM
I've designed two logos...
For some ungodly reason, I absolutely love this one. ;)
I like the way the second one falls together with the font. You could try it with another font if you like, but it's really not necessary.

[M. Johansson]

Originally posted by chelle@Mar 25 2003, 02:23 PM
B)
Nicey nice! Still a bit unpractical shape there, though.

Oh, and guys, keep in mind that I am not the one deciding on the logo. All the examples will be presented to the board, and they will pick it, not me.

[Palmer]

I love the 3d logos he makes. They're awesome. When I grow up I want to be as good as Ruairi :D

[chelle]

B)

[Zoe]

Here are some other designs...

http://www.demexdesign.com/plural_logo2.gif

[TwistedNewMedia]

:blink:

[Juvanescence]

:blink:

[Juvanescence]

And again making the "p" the main focal point. The numerous curves in the letter illustrates the multiplicity you are trying to focus on in the brief(hopefully).

[13SportsDesign]

Here is a logo that I hope captures what you are looking for.

Renee

[M. Johansson]

Very nice, people! I don't think any of the last logos need any changing - they are ready to be presented to the board. I need high-res versions of all the logos very soon - please email them to mattias[at]johansson.com. The do not have to be insanely large, but reasonable resolution is neccesary. I will need them at the very latest 24 hours from making this post.

GREAT work everyone - thanks a bunch for your coorperation, and good luck!

[Radu]

Better, but why don't you try writing it on one of the P:s?
Cool idea, thanks :)

I love the 3d logos he makes. They're awesome. When I grow up I want to be as good as Ruairi
Lol Palmer, I feel :blush: :rolleyes: :ph34r: :blink: :wacko: :flowers: :notworthy: . -- but thanks for the remark anyway :)

[Radu]

Here it is.

I will also send you an email with the files in a higher resolution.

-Ruairi

[Juvanescence]

Originally posted by M. Johansson@Mar 27 2003, 02:25 PM
Very nice, people! I don't think any of the last logos need any changing - they are ready to be presented to the board. I need high-res versions of all the logos very soon - please email them to mattias[at]johansson.com. The do not have to be insanely large, but reasonable resolution is neccesary. I will need them at the very latest 24 hours from making this post.

GREAT work everyone - thanks a bunch for your coorperation, and good luck!
Just sent them to you. If you have any problems with the files please feel free to get in contact.

[Raja]

:D <img src='http://www.webfellaz.com/4fun/plural2.gif[/img]

[QSDA]

Hi. Here's an idea that I came about and is just a 1st draft. I'm going to finish it up as soon as get some free time. Thanks!

[Raja]

:unsure: <img src='http://www.webfellaz.com/4fun/plural3.gif[/img]

[M. Johansson]

Okay, everyone. Unfortunately, the board did not like any of the submissions enough, even though there was 40 in total from here and from SitePoint. Thus, the competition deadline has simply been extended to the 22nd of April in hope that someone throws up a nice idea.

[TwistedNewMedia]

Was their any logos that caught the boards eye? Any that are on the right track?

[Dan]

Had a bit of an idea -

[Huhhso]

new submissions
thanks! :)

[Palmer]

Mattias, is there any way the board can stop by and give these guys a clue? I mean out of 40 plus logos, there must be some that are close but need revised.

Is it possible to have them stop by and comment? :)

[creationd]

here is my go at it.

[admin edit- Only members of the Design Team are permitted to enter contests, please follow the site guidelines (http://www.designoutpost.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=4&t=35&s=). Thanks :)]

[cre8or]

Wow... there are some real kick-a** logos here. I can't believe
that the Board doesn't like ANY of them!
:eek:

[M. Johansson]

Originally posted by cre8or@Apr 6 2003, 09:37 PM
Wow... there are some real kick-a** logos here. I can't believe
that the Board doesn't like ANY of them!
:eek:
Oh, they did indeed like a lot of them! The problem was that they didn't feel that any of them fit the organization.

Here comes a more through description of the organization:

Plural is an organization for young producers and organizers of (as in arranging and/or producing) art. An organization which has as purpose to get young people to believe in themselves as important and necessary parts of the art community in Sweden. For the ones that are already on their way with producing and arranging, we are there to inspire, educate and network. For the ones curious about arranging we are there to lead and peptalk. Between the member organizations we will create a network, where ideas can be discussed freely, experiences can be traded and relationships can be established. Plural will also arrange courses and seminars connected to organizing/arranging/producing, in subjects such as bookeeping, economy, marketing and laws. Everything according to the wishes and needs of the member organizations.

[beetle]

An idea I had. I've got several ideas to change it up a bit. If you like the direction this is going, I'll post those ideas.

logo01

[Mike]

Just thought I'd point out that the design above is very similar to the cover design of the textbook "Marketing: A Canadian Perspective". I couldn't find a picture online of the design, but it is very similar to the one above. :)

I know beetle didn't copy it, as the text is just for Canadian schools, but I thought I'd point it out, so the Org. can decide if it's safe or not. :)

[beetle]

Really? :huh: Interesting. I can't find a picture anyplace...now I'm curious. Although, I concede, it's not a wholly unique idea, I just thought it applied well here.

[Palmer]

Originally posted by naramation@Apr 7 2003, 02:07 PM
Just thought I'd point out that the design above is very similar to the cover design of the textbook "Marketing: A Canadian Perspective". I couldn't find a picture online of the design, but it is very similar to the one above. :)
Considering only a few people have ever seen that book, I don't think it will be a problem :P

[chelle]

B)

[Juvanescence]

:unsure:

[ElKootcho]

What's the latest with this contest? If it still running, is there a new deadline?

[Palmer]

Originally posted by M. Johansson@Mar 31 2003, 05:40 AM
Okay, everyone. Unfortunately, the board did not like any of the submissions enough, even though there was 40 in total from here and from SitePoint. Thus, the competition deadline has simply been extended to the 22nd of April in hope that someone throws up a nice idea.
He posted this a ways back. You may of missed it ;)

[ElKootcho]

Thanks. I'll see what I can come up with.

[ElKootcho]

:unsure:

[M. Johansson]

Originally posted by ElKootcho@Apr 20 2003, 12:52 AM
:unsure:
Gotta say I love that last one!

[Raja]

http://www.webfellaz.com/4fun/plural4.gif

[Raja]

http://www.webfellaz.com/4fun/plural5.gif

[ElKootcho]

Here's another variation for you to consider. :tup:

[Mike]

There are many great logos here :)

[M. Johansson]

Okidoki.. It's the 23rd. Could you you all submit the logos to me via email (mattias[at]johansson.com), and I'll make sure they get to the secretary. The board meeting will be on the 8th of May, and we pretty much HAVE to decide on a logo then.

[M. Johansson]

Oh, and if you want to submit any last minute entries before the 8th, go read the last few posts of mine in the SitePoint thread (http://www.sitepointforums.com/showthread.php?postid=749506) - there is more info on the organization there.

[M. Johansson]

Originally posted by ElKootcho@Apr 21 2003, 08:35 PM
Here's another variation for you to consider. :tup:
Just saw that one! I REALLY like that - I'm probably going to be voting in favour of yours.

[ElKootcho]

I just wanted to make sure that you got all of the high res versions that you needed to have the board make there selection. If not, please let us know so we can get them to you. Thanks.

[M. Johansson]

I got them just fine, thanks!

It'll be exciting to see what the board says this weekend.

[pram]

i hope the contest is not closed yet :)

<img src='http://www.strategybase.com/fun_logos/plural1.jpg[/img]

[beetle]

I believe the deadline is the 8th, so you're still good.

[FTIGraphix]

On another site he mentioned they were deciding on the 8th but the high res. designs were due "before May at the lastest". You probably made it in time.

[M. Johansson]

Sorry about the delay. A winner has indeed been chosen, and that person has been notified. I'll make a larger post with the winning entry here, and about which ones made it to the finale later. Gotta get some Zzzzs now. See ya later! ;)

[Mike]

Thanks Mattias. :)

[ElKootcho]

:(

[FTIGraphix]

Originally posted by ElKootcho@May 8 2003, 06:23 PM
:(
Does that mean you didn't win?

[ElKootcho]

Originally posted by FTIGraphix@May 8 2003, 04:38 PM
Originally posted by ElKootcho@May 8 2003, 06:23 PM
:(
Does that mean you didn't win?
It means I didn't get no e-mail! :lol:

Did anyone here get an e-mail saying they won? I looked over at SiteForums and saw the same message.

[M. Johansson]

Okay, people. We got in approximately 45 good entries (I'm not counting the ones submitted that looked like they were done in MS Paint). The board had no problem picking out which ones weren't suitable, and we basically came down to 6 entries in the end.

ElKootcho logo
http://www.designoutpost.com/forums/uploads/post-4-1050978934.jpg

A late entry, playing on the fact that the organization is fundamentally about peope:
http://www.virtuos.se/temp/plurallogga.gif

Another, based on the idea of networking.
http://www.virtuos.se/temp/plurallogga_molekyl.gif

J-designs... The only designer to have two of his entries considered.
http://www.designoutpost.com/forums/uploads/post-4-1048278120.jpg

+ one that was submitted to me privately.

After that, we decided it was best to take a vote by letting each board member give each of the 6 chosen entries a score from 1 to 6. I will let the exact results of the vote go unsaid, but it was an extremely close race between ElKootcho, the P-Face and the Molecule-style networking thingy, but the P-face won out.

I can't enough tell you how well you all have done this. Not all of you hit on the spot on with your logo(s), but almost every single one of you had fantastic designs from a beauty standpoint. I wish you all the best in future endavours! Oh, and I'm sorry to say that there was never a $100 deposit at these forums - Palmer personally invited me to post here, and didn't mention it at first - when I discovered this rule, the contest had already ran for quite some time. I'm not authorized to may anyone else than the actual winner either, so I'm afraid noone else than him can be paid. I'm sorry for this, and I'll be sure to do it properly next time, with some extra prize money then.

Best of luck to you all!

[Juvanescence]

Well at least I got some ideas chosen. :blink:

[Palmer]

Originally posted by M. Johansson@May 10 2003, 04:57 AM
Oh, and I'm sorry to say that there was never a $100 deposit at these forums - Palmer personally invited me to post here, and didn't mention it at first - when I discovered this rule, the contest had already ran for quite some time. I'm not authorized to may anyone else than the actual winner either, so I'm afraid noone else than him can be paid. I'm sorry for this, and I'll be sure to do it properly next time, with some extra prize money then.

Best of luck to you all!
Please do not make me look bad on my own web site.

That is incorrect and I have the private message to prove it. I was concerned with the lack of entries you were receiving at the other site and I offered for you to post it here.

I told you that contest holders are required to pay first but in your case I would make an exception because it was the board that had the money not you. I had complete faith in the Design Team to submit the winning entry.

Honestly I think their entries were far and above some of the finest submitted to your contest. As always though it comes down to what the contest holder (the board in your case) likes and nobody else. *shrug* Well congratulations to who ever made the P face :)

[ElKootcho]

Originally posted by M. Johansson@May 10 2003, 12:57 AM
Okay, people. We got in approximately 45 good entries (I'm not counting the ones submitted that looked like they were done in MS Paint). The board had no problem picking out which ones weren't suitable, and we basically came down to 6 entries in the end.
Oh, and I'm sorry to say that there was never a $100 deposit at these forums
Bummer. :crying:

On the plus side, the logos done here were MUCH better then the ones down over at SiteForum. In my opinion, which doesn't count for too much!

[toddski07]

:wacko:

I have followed this contest and watched the great number of designs be posted. I just want to give a shout out to the designers who participated in this contest because as a former contest holder myself I think you went above and beyond what was called for....kudos to all of you. Many GREAT designs were posted and they ranged from one extreme to another. Other contest holders can only DREAM and HOPE that they receive the kind of attention that this one did.

I am very careful not to make comments and post on other design contests other than my own but I could not let this one end on kind of a downer note :angry: ....everyone deserves a pat on the back for a job more than well done. I enjoy coming back to DesignOutpost on a regular basis and watching the different contests. Sweep this one under the rug and keep movin' on. B)

Todd

[Mike]

Originally posted by ElKootcho@May 10 2003, 09:14 AM
Originally posted by M. Johansson@May 10 2003, 12:57 AM
Okay, people. We got in approximately 45 good entries (I'm not counting the ones submitted that looked like they were done in MS Paint). The board had no problem picking out which ones weren't suitable, and we basically came down to 6 entries in the end.
Oh, and I'm sorry to say that there was never a $100 deposit at these forums
Bummer. :crying:

On the plus side, the logos done here were MUCH better then the ones down over at SiteForum. In my opinion, which doesn't count for too much!
:lol:

We abducted all the good designers ;)

[Palmer]

Thanks Todd, well said :tup:

[M. Johansson]

Originally posted by Palmer@May 10 2003, 06:28 AM
Originally posted by M. Johansson@May 10 2003, 04:57 AM
Oh, and I'm sorry to say that there was never a $100 deposit at these forums - Palmer personally invited me to post here, and didn't mention it at first - when I discovered this rule, the contest had already ran for quite some time. I'm not authorized to may anyone else than the actual winner either, so I'm afraid noone else than him can be paid. I'm sorry for this, and I'll be sure to do it properly next time, with some extra prize money then.

Best of luck to you all!
Please do not make me look bad on my own web site.

That is incorrect and I have the private message to prove it. I was concerned with the lack of entries you were receiving at the other site and I offered for you to post it here.

I told you that contest holders are required to pay first but in your case I would make an exception because it was the board that had the money not you. I had complete faith in the Design Team to submit the winning entry.

Honestly I think their entries were far and above some of the finest submitted to your contest. As always though it comes down to what the contest holder (the board in your case) likes and nobody else. *shrug* Well congratulations to who ever made the P face :)
Sorry Palmer, it was not my intention to make you look bad - the fault is all mine - I should simply have read the rules before posting.

And I totally agree that the entries here have been absolutely fantastic. None of the entries from Sitepoint were considered by the board at all - the P-face is from an indepentent dude.

[Palmer]

No problem. It was the boards' decision not yours. The burden will be on the board to explain to their wealthy socialite contributors what Mr P face has anything to do with art and youth. :D

Your "independent dude" must like public TV. Personally I think it is a little too close to resembling the PBS logo...
http://www.pbs.org/

[Victoria]

Palmer Posted on May 11 2003, 12:57 PM
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No problem. It was the boards' decision not yours. The burden will be on the board to explain to their wealthy socialite contributors what Mr P face has anything to do with art and youth. &nbsp;

Your "independent dude" must like public TV. Personally I think it is a little too close to resembling the PBS logo...http://www.pbs.org/


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