Cartoon Banner - Defyning Design *Project Over*

[Vamps]

(Admin code added by Palmer - Y8050527)

Link to template project on hold (http://www.designoutpost.com/forums/?act=ST&f=8&t=4066&st=0#entry75179)

Alright, we're back. After talking to a couple different designers that do primarily layouts, we decided that it might be easier and most cost effective if we held a separate contest specifically for our site's banner..

Company name: Defyning Design
Company profile: We are a start-up graphic and web design company. Our slogan is "Defying conventionalism while redefining the standard." We believe that most design companies are stagnant in their thinking and it's time for an unconventional approach. We created the company out of a need we saw for fresh designs, although we ourselves are NOT designers. Our talent lies in finding and managing our business and we hope to employ several extremely talented designers in the coming weeks.
Domain name: http://www.defyningdesign.com
What is the scope of this project?: Cartoon banner design
Who is the intended audience?: Anyone in need of graphic and/or web design, but preferably entertainment related companies, ie record labels, movie production companies, photographers, etc.
Mood or tone?: Controversial, engaging, memorable, professional, bold, user-friendly, clean
Color psychology?: Bold and in your face, but still professional. We want to provoke an emotional response, but not drive the clients away
Samples you like: http://www.designoutpost.com/forums/?showtopic=3546 - Alex Koogan did an incredible job!
New Deadline: TBA
Dimensions 604x163

Project Details:
We want a scene of a guerilla army attacking the corporate world, symbolized by sky scrapers. The guerilla army shouldn't look like an organized army because our scene is to represent a handful of people defying conventionalism. We both think Zaptistas, Mexican rebels have the best look as far as what we have in mind. Here's a picture of some:

http://www.agrnews.org/issues/116/zapatist...2%20(color).GIF (http://www.agrnews.org/issues/116/zapatistas%202%20(color).GIF)

Also, one of the members of the army should be holding a red flag with our logo on it. We really liked the tone Shelly's design set, but not the colors and want a much more elaborate scene for this. Please reference our original contest..

http://www.designoutpost.com/forums/?showtopic=3879

For more information and please respond here if you have any questions.

We want this to be as painless as possible on everyone involved. Thanks!

:tup:

[Christian]

Hey there! Do you have specific width and height measurements in mind?

[AlexKogan]

A question to the contest holder (a bit off topic, maybe, but nevertheless):

We want a scene of a guerilla army attacking the corporate world, symbolized by sky scrapers. The guerilla army shouldn't look like an organized army because our scene is to represent a handful of people defying conventionalism.

...err... I maybe wrong, but... wouldn't it be too agressive? To defy a conventionalism isn't exactly to bring anarchy (desorganized rebel army) into the game :) A solid, organized alternative would work much better (IMHO). Don't you think you're going to scare the clients away with all that terrosist-looking types assaulting scyscrapers? :D

Just a thought :) Sorry if I'm being too nosy and commenting on matters I'm not qualified to comment on :)

Cheers!

[Vamps]

Christian..

Please make the dimensions approximately the same as our current banner. You can view it here: http://www.defyningdesign.com

Thanks!

[Vamps]

Alex,

I wanted to respond to you earlier, I just haven't had time until now.

I agree with what you're saying about our theme being a little bit extreme, but I think it's necessary in order to create an emotional response with our users. While defy doesn't mean to attack, our company's mentality is to be the aggressor. We are always the first to initiate contact with potential clients, employees, etc.

Our scene represents our defiance and opposition to traditional ways of doing things and also plays on the events that are currently happening in the world. Our intention is not to scare away clients, which is why I think the cartoon format gets our point across without being so heavy and serious, but we definately want them to remember our site and perspective.

There are thousands of design company's in existence and we felt this was a way to separate ourselves from every other company out there selling the same service and reflects our rebellious spirit.

THANK YOU for your feedback. This is exactly what we want. The more people talk about our company and take notice, the more effective our marketing scheme is.

That being said..

We'd LOVE you to enter. You are very talented and we are happy knowning that your work goes beyond just designing something within your client's parameters.

[Chocolate]

My design for Defyning Design. Many more details can be added.

[Vamps]

Chocolate,

Thank you for taking the time to do that, but it is not what we're looking for at all. The design that Dziner did was much closer to what we envisioned and they don't need to have actual guns in their hands. Also, they should be facing the buildings and the buildings should be tall, rectangular sky scrapers. We want the logo on the flag, not the name.

The color scheme used in the banner will also dictate the rest of the site and the colors should compliment one another. Red should be used sparingly since it is being used in the flag.

Dziner's concept is our original templates post was perfect as far as the feel and was close the level of realism we want. We just want that style expanded upon the scene to be more intricate and involving. But please use that as a reference.

Thanks again and we look forward to seeing your revisions.

[Christian]

Here's my go at it

[Michael]

Christian :tup:

[Chocolate]

Revision based on your feedback. Tried to capture a surrealistic feel.

[Vamps]

Christian,

Wow, very impressive. We like how your illustration seems as if it were painted. It definately provokes an emotional response..

Here are our suggestions:

-The overall scene is a little too dark, keep the style the same but brighten it up a little.
-It is not clear what the guerilla army is doing. They don't look unified at all. I like that they don't have weapons, but it really isn't clear what or who they are.
-Please remove the word, "Defiance." We want it to be implied visually, not stated in words
-I like the flag and don't even mind that it's green, but it's not proportional. It's a little too big
-I like the buildings, can you add a few more on the skyline?

You did an excellent job. We like Dziner's concept and we like yours. Both are very different and give off different vibes and we like them both. Thank you and we look forward to seeing the revisions.

Chocolate

We like this version a lot better than the one prior to it, but it's way too abstract. A person visiting the site for the first time would not know what they are looking at. Can you define everything more? Also, it should be the same size as Christian's.

Right now we're torn between a light cartoon feeling and Christian's dark, painting of chaos, but I'd suggest that you follow one of those styles. I'm not saying to mimic their work, but try to create something that gives off that feel. Thanks! We looked through your portfolio and really like the way you did the women play pool. Keep at it!


:tup:

[Chocolate]

:lol: Thank you so much for appreciating the woman illustration! Will do revision of the image and submit soon!

[Chocolate]

Revised design with more clarity and more darkened edges:

[DesignGeneral]

Here is my vision ;) :rolleyes:

[Vamps]

I'm glad this contest is picking up a little bit..

Chocolate thanks for making the revisions, but we're looking for something that is more involving. Christian's banner is a good example. When looking at it you feel that you are in the middle of what is going on. Yours is still too abstract. It looks like shapes laid on top of one another. It's not even clear what your scene is. Our logo doesn't need to dominate the banner either.

Again, look at Dziner's banner in our template contest and Christian's design here. Both are clear scenes done in different styles. We are looking for something with the clarity of that.

Design General welcome to our contest! I appreciate your time and effort, but the style/imagery in your design is not what we're looking for. Re-read my notes in both this contest and our template contest. We're looking for an illustration of some kind, whether serious or cartoony. We want an actual scene depicted.

The images in your banner do not relate to one another. Also, we want a guerilla army, not one person playing paint ball. The flag with our logo on it is to be carried by one of the soldiers. They're facing a series of high rises that is supposed to represent the corporate world. Also, the only place our logo needs to appear is on the flag.

My first suggestion to you is start with an illustration. Focus on drawing the scene we've described. The use of photographs is probably too difficult and serious. Also, dimensions are 604x163.

Thanks! I look forward to both of your revisions.

[Chocolate]

New revision taking Deziner's banner as a reference:

[Tim]

I will try to get something done for this. I have an idea for the header and template contest.

[Vamps]

Chocolate thanks for all the hard work. We looked through some of your other entries and really liked the style of this..

http://www.designoutpost.com/forums/?showt...=30&#entry69521 (http://www.designoutpost.com/forums/?showtopic=3783&st=30&#entry69521)

We are looking for something with this amount of detail, personality and clarity. You've been really fast with your updates, we just want to make sure we're all on the same page. If you can keep our concept in mind and illustrate something in the same style as the moose, that'd be a lot closer to what we envision.

Thanks!


Tim, we're excited to see what you come up with. Thanks for joining..

[Christian]

Here it is with changes.

[Chocolate]

More graphic and realistic imagery added:

[Vamps]

Christian, I like how it looks with the flag smaller and the overall image brighter, but I'd still like some more buildings and it's still unclear as to what the little men are doing. Some aren't even recognizable as people and they seem scattered.

Tighten up their shapes and their placement. It looks incredible though.


Chocolate, thanks for all your revisions. We don't have anything we want you to change right now. Thanks.

[Vamps]

-Update- Attn: All Designers

To give everyone an idea of how we envision this banner being incorporated into our design we want it to be something like this:

http://www.templatemonster.com/show.php?te...53&type=1&cat=8 (http://www.templatemonster.com/show.php?templ=3453&type=1&cat=8)

We are not buying this template, but want our users to feel as if they're in another world. The banner you are all working on will be the center of our page like the river is in that sample.

That's why it needs to be detailed and almost interactive. If you have any questions or need me to clarify anything, please let me know. Thanks.

[Christian]

Next one!

[Vamps]

Christian, the revisions look good. Can you try another version with the flag red, the logo as we have it, with straight edges and play with the guy's face who is closest to us? I'm not sure what I'm looking for, maybe less definition or more. He just looks kind of like a ninja to me or something.

Also, in the format that you have done it in, do you know if it's possible to have the fire burning and the flag waving? Maybe an animated gif or in flash. If so, we'd like that once we have the final version. We know that is not what is stated in the contest, but will pay someone to do that once the contest is done. Just keep that in mind that that's what's going to happen to the final version. Thanks!

:tup:

[Hypnosis]

Hi everyone :)
A friend suggested I should have a go at this contest :)

Here goes :P

Hyp!

[Vamps]

Hypnosis,

Welcome to our contest. I like your style, but have quite a few revisions for you. If you haven't already, I suggest reading all of our notes in both contests. After that..

-Please remove all text
-I like the silhouettes of the men, but they're way too big. The point we're trying to make is a small little army is taking down large corporate buildings. Christian has the proportions down.
-I'm not too fond of the shapes of the people. It looks as if they're walking from left to right, when they should be walking towards the buildings in the background.
-Our logo should be placed on a flag that's being carried by one of the men. We pictured the flag being red, but whatever works with your color scheme is fine as long as it's noticeable.
-The placement of the buildings is off. I like that they're rectangular and rigid, but they don't have any personality. Refer again to Christian's buildings for a good idea of what I'm looking for.
-I like the idea of a "moon" if that's what that is, but I'd like it to be more defined and set more a tone.
-Lastly, can you add in some sort of terrain? Small hills, something. It adds a lot to the scene and makes it feel more personal.

Thanks! I know I asked for a lot, but this banner is going to represent our new look and our entire web site will be built around it.

[Hypnosis]

Thanx a lot for these comments Vamps, I'll get back to you asap.

Hyp!

[Christian]

Heya, it will take some time and skill to pull off those animations in this style but it can be done. ;) I'll have to work out any further revisions you may want in the Revisions Forum if you pick my design.

[Vamps]

Christian, I completely understand. Thanks..

[Vamps]

Tim, are you still planning on entering?

[Liz]

Here's a rough entry from me. Original artwork.

[Vamps]

Liz, that is outstanding! You have really made this contest interesting. The flag is perfect. The way it falls and the way the logo looks is exactly what I envisioned. Can you make it a little brighter though? Just the shade of red.

Also, I love the silhouette of the people, but they look too much like little boys. I like the guy's hand in the air, that is perfect, but they look too young.

The one other thing right now is the building's themselves. I really like how Christian's buildings look. They're supposed to represent huge corporations and we want them all to look similar, rectangular and massive. Maybe with less colors and if they were broader.

I love the bridge also. That is something we hadn't thought of. Can it extend on the other side? And what if a dark stream was flowing from it? I don't know, these are just ideas at this point.

You are definately on the right track. Thank you for entering. You've given us a lot to think about.


Hypnosis, what's up? We still wanna see your revisions if you still wanna make them. Thanks!

:D

[Liz]

thanks for all the feedback Emil :) I had fun doing this.

I'll make the changes you wanted when I get home tonight - I don't have the source file here with me.

Mean while, take a quick look at this sketch and tell me if the buildings are more like what you had in mind.

Thanks,
Liz.

[Vamps]

Yeah, that looks good. Also, I'd plan for the addition of fire at some point. After you make the revisions, we'll probably want to see the way that looks. Christian's design had that and it adds a really dramatic effect that we like.

After the contest is over, we're going to find someone to animate the illustration, so that's something you should keep in mind. We want the flag waving, the fire (if there is some) burning and if we select your design, then the water flowing.

If the artist who designs the winning banner is able to animate it as well, we will glady hire them for that.

One question..

If we choose your design, do you have the original file in a large enough size and at a high enough resolution where we could print it out if needed? I know I'm getting ahead of myself, but I'm just thinking about the different possiblities. Thanks Liz.

[Liz]

Right now the artwork is a bitmap graphic... its not going to be very suitable for animation in the format it is now (because you'll probably wind up using flash), nor for print unless its converted to vector (see the link in my sig for a difference between bitmap and vector if it'll help). Although if you want it for print only puposes, and not animation, I can redo it at a higher resolution.

RE the vector:
I can easily do this design in vector, but it'll lose some of the smooth blending and coloring effects. I don't know if that's important to you or not, but something to keep in mind.

Let me know.

- liz.

[Vamps]

I really like the way everything blends, but I think to allow ourselves the most possibilites in the future, we should have it done in Vector. If you can recreate it as that, that'd be greatly appreciated.

If we choose your design, is it possible to import the vector version into Photoshop and add the blending afterwards? We would of course compensate you for that, I'm just asking if that's possible. That way we'd have a a vector and bitmap version that have the best qualities of each.

Thanks again Liz.

[Liz]

Yeah, that's definately do-able.

Do you have a vector version of your logo available for incorporation onto the flag?

Thanks,
Liz.

[Vamps]

Yes, but it wouldn't let me upload it. I can email it to you and anyone else that needs it. What's your email?

[Liz]

I posted a note, hopefully one of the mods will be able to help you get it uploaded for everyone to access!

I'll be posting my revisions tonight :)

[Liz]

Hi there.

Here is a version in vector.

[Vamps]

Liz,

You did a great job recreating it in vector. I still have a couple revisions though.

First, can the whole thing be brighter and have more contrast? The silhouette should be black and I think the buildings would look good gray/charcoal, but besides that, I'd like the colors to be really vibrant. Don't worry about making it too realistic. For example, Christian's sky is red, but I love the way it looks. I like how the sky isn't one solid color, I just think that and the color of the ground make the piece look really drab when we want it to be alive and full of emotion.

Second, I don't think you altered the silhouettes of the people. They still look like children to me. I like the pose of the guy's arm in the air, but not his head or body. All of them look like boys and I'd rather they look older and more serious.

Those are the two biggest changes. Other than that, can you take the two lines out of the building so that it's similar to the others? Either that, or add it to the other 2 buildings.

I like the bridge, but not how it comes directly toward them. I'd rather have the water be more prominent and come towards them. And I noticed the white space above and below. Can you fix that?

I also have the logo in the original Illustrator file, but I never heard from anyone about uploading it. I can email it to you if needed. Otherwise, who should I contact?

Thanks Liz. If you have any questions, let me know.

:tup:

[Michael]

You're still having problems feel free to email the logo to me 2square[at]designoutpost.com


:)

[Liz]

Thanks for the feedback.

Do you have any suggestions as to what would make the people look older to you? I've added muscles to the arm, and fattened the necks where they are visible.

The decision to make everything look drab was a conscious one (just so you don't think I'm obsessed with dark, boring colors!) ... to me corporations are always drab, faceless, lifeless, nameless entities... I was using colors to help portray that in the illustration. But I'm totally cool to change them up :D

2square should be able to help you with the file upload; as designers, we can't be in direct contact with contest holders during participation in one of their contests.

I'll work on the changes :D

[Vamps]

Yeah, I agree about corporations being drab, nameless and faceless. I still want that. I just want everything that's surrounding it to be alive and vibrant. It's a scene of change.

As far as the figures, I think you're onto the right idea. Some of them had messy hair, if you just had the shape of their heads smooth and more round, I think that'd work.

Thanks Liz. I'll email 2Square right now..

[Michael]

File attached, apologies for the delay :)

[Vamps]

Thanks for your help, 2Square.

[Liz]

Here's an update from me.

Thanks again for your consideration.

[Vamps]

Liz, thank you for the revisions. A couple of things..

-Can you make the flag a brighter red and take off the stroke on the logo. I didn't mean to have that there. I want it solid black on red just like you had it in your very 1st version.
-I like the water, it's perfect, but not the bridge. I just don't like how it curves. I'm not sure what direction to put it going in. Maybe even fading out like in your 1st version. I don't know. I'd have to see it.
-Can you add some people already in the landscape? Similar to Christian's.
-I like that the colors are brighter, but I guess I had something more dramatic and surreal in mind. Can you play with the colors? The sky doesn't have to be blue and the land doesn't have to be green.
-Can you add some texture to the land? Maybe even some small details like rocks would help break up the solid color. I know it's vector, I just want some little details. Nothing too extravagent, don't worry.

The fire can be added in the Revisions forum if we select yours. We wouldn't ask you to make all these changes unless we really liked what you had come up with. You're really close.

We're gonna see if anyone else submits and entry and will then try to wrap this thing up ASAP. Thanks to everyone who's spent their time on our contest. We appreciate it.

[Vamps]

I was wondering if anyone else was going to enter and if the designer's who had, were going to make the last couple revisions.

Thanks.

[Liz]

I had computer issues this weekend, but I've got about half of your changes done. I'll finish them up tonight when I get home and post.

Thanks,
Liz.

[Vamps]

The contest ends today. Liz will you be submitting your revisions?

Is anyone else going to be submitting something? We can extend the deadline until Monday if needed, but otherwise we'll end it today. Thanks.

[Liz]

I'm tryin! I'll be home in an hour or two and I'll upload then.

[Vamps]

Liz, are you still going to be uploading that?

I am leaving the contest open pending another entry. I recieved notice that there might be at least one other entry and I want to include that in the contest if possible.

To anyone that hasn't yet submitted an entry and wants to, now is the time. Thanks.

[Liz]

Adding an update to my entry.

Someow adding scenery with the vector just doesn't work as nicely. :(

[Liz]

Here's another version with the foreground elements slightly scaled up to fill more of the frame.

[mbleigh]

I will enter this one tonight.

[Michael]

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I am leaving the contest open pending another entry. I recieved notice that there might be at least one other entry and I want to include that in the contest if possible.

To anyone that hasn't yet submitted an entry and wants to, now is the time. Thanks. [/b][/quote]
Vamps

Please could you confirm the new deadline date for us :)


Thanks

[nvoke]

hello, here's one from me...let me know what you think.
thanks and enjoi,
amanda

[Vamps]

Liz, thanks for your revisions. I like the new colors and what you've done. Thanks for sticking with the contest.

mbleigh, I'm looking forward to your entry.

2Square, as of right now there is no deadline. As long as interesting entries keep coming in, I'm willing to push the deadline back.

piece_of_mind, I like it! I like how it's dark and dramatic. Here are some revisions:

1. Please remove the weapons.
2. Can the helicopters be facing the other way, as if they're defending the buildings?
3. I really like the colors of the buildings, but can they be more rectangular and massive looking. Look at Christian's and Liz's.
4. I like the colors in the flag, but it doesn't look right and the logo looks a little off.

Thanks Amanda. I really like it.

[Michael]

<!--QuoteBegin-Vamps+Jun 12 2004, 12:50 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Vamps @ Jun 12 2004, 12:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 2Square, as of right now there is no deadline. As long as interesting entries keep coming in, I'm willing to push the deadline back.
[/b][/quote]
Vamps I don't want to sound rude but this is a little unfair on the designers, at one point you set the deadline to the 4th June which the designers would have worked to now you're saying that there isn't a deadline as long as interesting entries keep rolling in.

Its only fair on the designers who have already submitted that a deadline is set in place, it will also spur on those who plan to enter as well ;)


:)

[mbleigh]

<img src='http://www.mbleigh.com/projects/defyning/defyning.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

[nvoke]

with revisions...also to let you know the logo was in a pdf format, so I can not do much morphing..let me know what you think,
thanks,
amanda

[Vamps]

<!--QuoteBegin-2square+Jun 11 2004, 06:19 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (2square @ Jun 11 2004, 06:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Vamps+Jun 12 2004, 12:50 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Vamps @ Jun 12 2004, 12:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 2Square, as of right now there is no deadline. As long as interesting entries keep coming in, I'm willing to push the deadline back.
[/b][/quote]
Vamps I don't want to sound rude but this is a little unfair on the designers, at one point you set the deadline to the 4th June which the designers would have worked to now you're saying that there isn't a deadline as long as interesting entries keep rolling in.

Its only fair on the designers who have already submitted that a deadline is set in place, it will also spur on those who plan to enter as well ;)


:) [/b][/quote]
2Square, I understand what you're saying and I don't mean to sound rude, but..

This contest began on May 4th. Until the 20th only 4 people had entered submissions, only 1 of which was what I asked for. Then Liz entered unexpectedly and it gave me an alternative. Then, from May 26th until June 10th no one submitted any revisions. Others have said that they would enter and never have or they've made one entry and then none of the revisions.

Now I have 2 new designers who have entered and have made this a contest. Obviously, I want this contest to end so that I can proceed with the redesign of my site, but because of the reasons stated above, I have not been able to.

This contest is six weeks old and is now just beginning..

[Vamps]

mbleigh, hmm I like the concept. I'm not crazy about the colors. Can you flip it so that the men are on the left side of the banner? Can you add some more buildings, some fallen, some standing? Also, the background seems really plain to me.

I like that you've brought a new concept to the contest, it just needs tweaking..

piece_of_mind, the revisions look good. I can email you the logo in .AI format if that's easier. Can you remove the lightning? Also, I still want the buildings more rectangular. I know they're more interesting looking if they don't have square tops, but they're supposed to represent a lack of creativity and corporate power.

Is it possible to add flames at the bottom of the building? Similar to Christian's.

Overall, I really like the tone and mood set by your entry. Thank you!

[nvoke]

changes...

[Michael]

<!--QuoteBegin-Vamps+Jun 12 2004, 08:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Vamps @ Jun 12 2004, 08:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 2Square, I understand what you're saying and I don't mean to sound rude, but..

This contest began on May 4th. Until the 20th only 4 people had entered submissions, only 1 of which was what I asked for. Then Liz entered unexpectedly and it gave me an alternative. Then, from May 26th until June 10th no one submitted any revisions. Others have said that they would enter and never have or they've made one entry and then none of the revisions.

Now I have 2 new designers who have entered and have made this a contest. Obviously, I want to end this contest to end so that I can proceed with the redesign of my site, but because of the reasons stated above, I have not been able to.

This contest is six weeks old and is now just beginning.. [/b][/quote]
Ok thanks for explaining :)

[Vamps]

piece_of_mind, wow. I really like it. The file available for download says it's an .AI file. I think the logo still needs to be positioned better on the flag. If you need the file, let me know.

Other than that..

I really like it. Would it be too difficult to have a spotlight from one of the helicopters shining down on the men running towards the buildings? I don't really know what else to add or change. That was just an idea that popped into my head.

Thanks for your hard work!

:tup:

2Square, no problem. I'm happy with the direction the contest is going and hopefully should be able to wrap it up soon..

[nvoke]

yeah, if you could email the .ai logo to me...at pinkbeatles@yahoo.com that would be great...
thanks

[nvoke]

better?

[Vamps]

piece_of_mind, yes! The flag/logo looks a lot better. I like the spotlights, but I think 3 is a little too much. Can you just have it so that the 2nd helicopter, the medium sized one has it's light shining towards the flag and the largest man?

After that, I think that might be it on the revisions. It looks really good..

[nvoke]

revisions...

[Vamps]

I meant the helicopter directly under it. Can you add the spotlight to that one instead?

[nvoke]

sorry about that...here's the update,

[Vamps]

Alright..

We have a winner. Thank you to everyone that entered this contest. Christian and Liz both did amazing work, but we felt that piece_of_mind came the closest to creating what we envisioned. She did an outstanding job and followed what we asked for exactly while bringing her own style to it. She is our winner!

We are ready to move this to the revisions forum. I'll notify 2Square..

:tup:

[Vamps]

Revisions:

1. I like the way the logo looks on the flag, but can you touch up the overall shape of it?
2. I like the shapes of the men running, but they're all exactly the same. Can there be some variation? I like the feeling of movement and don't want to change that, I just don't want them all to be exactly the same.
3. Can you try to increase the contrast of the colors a little bit? So it's a little less "dingy" and a little more dramatic. It might not look right, just an idea. Kee the men and the helicopters black silhouettes though.
4. I like the spotlight idea and the helicopter it's on, but something's not right about it. I don't want the beam to be too much brighter, I just think it might be the angle. Any ideas?

Thanks Amanda.

[nvoke]

here 'tis with revisions....
I'm not quite sure what you mean "touch up the overall shape of the flag" but I gave it a bit more slant...let me know if you would like more changes...
thanks...

[Vamps]

The colors looks great. The only thing that's not perfect yet is the spotlight and I just had an idea for that..

The only thing I saw that needs to be changed is just a little mistake. Part of the coloring in the sky is in front of the 2nd building from the left. Just move the building in front of that object.

And that should be it for this phase..

Thanks Amanda! It's great!

[Vamps]

To everyone else:

Our template contest is now back open. You can view it here:

http://www.designoutpost.com/forums/?showtopic=3879

Thanks!

[nvoke]

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