Ludos Logos - Innovations Online $150

[comludos]

Hi, (Admin code added by Palmer - M049683R)

we are looking for the best idea for our company logos. The company name is Ludos, which means 'I Play' in latin, although it has partial reference to our business. We deal with the distribution of gadgets and innovative products throughout Europe. This is one of many future posts as we need logos to personalise all our products. We also offer services to companies for promotional purposes, so this might be an opportunity to build a long term collaboration.

We require the following, with consistent designs (especially the t-shirt and bookmark logos):

N° 1 Logo for T-shirt, Letterhead, stickers, ie The Company Logo
N° 1 Website Logo (view details further down as one already exists)
N° 1 Bookmark Icon (Small icon appearing in bookmarked sites in browser - for this, view attached image for reference, it should resemble the company logo symbol, like an L inside a circle)


On acceptance of the logo (english version) it should be restyled in the other languages we currently deal with. In case you were wondering if we deal with all ex-USSR's states! :blink: I include a list of the languages needed (Note: only once the logo is approved) (italian, english, german, french, spanish, portuguese)

The logo should be modern and give a sense of progress. It should be young, fresh, progressive, innovative, yet professional. Anythign Else? :huh:

You can also find attached an image of something we have used in the past. The logo shows a compass like L (for Ludos) inside two circles. You may want to reference to it for inspiration, for the company logo, or use it for the bookmark icon. We also liked the idea of overlapping two Ls, creating the shadow effect and the arrow like look. I do not intend to constrain your inspiration and artistic talent, you can use it if you wish to, completely new designs are also welcome.

Thanks,

Stefano

EDIT: I just realised there may be some confusion with regards to the colours. I guess that is up to your style, you do not have to stick to black and white or blue, grey, and white. The only current colour constraint is black and white for the website logo.

Edit 2: :rolleyes: Deadline: 25 May 2003, the sooner the better, once the right design clicks we will accept it even earlier. Keep up the good work :tup:

<Naramation's Edit>
Remember, you need to deliver a print logo. This means that it must be HIGH RESOLUTION (300 to 400).
Also, you need to be able to make it small enough for a favicon (address bar icon)

[comludos]

Hi Everyone,

we are having server maintenance and the server will not be available for some time until tomorrow afternoon. I have attached a picture with a shot of our new web page layout for your reference. The previous company logo was designed with morphed Stursky Hutch type font.

Stefano

EDIT: Currently there is some inconsistency between the web logo and the desired concept for the company logo. If you can come up with an integrated solution we are willing to put forward a +US$50 compensation for all 3 designs, something to discuss with Palmer. You can alternatively submit your entry with two different proposed designs for the web logo and company logo. The bookmark logo is simply a (I think) 32*32 image, possibly the L inside the circle. Palmer if there is a problem with this bonus option please contact me, eventually please let me know how we should arrange this.

[Raja]

http://24.192.15.159/4fun/ludos.gif

[FTIGraphix]

Where does he get his ideas :rolleyes:

[martincrumlish]

Here's my entry :)

[comludos]

Hi Guys,

thanks for your entries.

Ondarox: really like the man with the nose saying ludos. Can you try to integrate that for the web logo, centering the face. Keep in mind the height of the top bar and the colours, black and white.

Martin: no shadows for Ludos. We like the 5 circles, can you redisgn something with that concept?

thanks guys, keep up the good work.

Stefano

[Radu]

Here's my try. Comments welcomed.

[martincrumlish]

Hi Stefano,

I made some changes and focused on the 5 circle design. I also made some on a black BG to see how they would look on your web site. You mentioned that you wanted it to be "centric" with the idea that Ludos is the centre of something, well with the 5 circles the centre circle gives this impression I think.

let me know what you think.

Martin

[Raja]

http://24.192.15.159/4fun/ludos2.gif

[Raja]

http://24.192.15.159/4fun/ludos3.gif

[comludos]

Hi Everyone,

thank you for all your posts. A few comments in order:

wwwzone: we like the font for ludos.com and of the 6 designs the first of the second row looks most promising, although the L should be clearer. For 3d do not turn the logo, try to make it stick out looking at it from the front. Do not be afraid to copy our past logo, we like it! :D Modify it, that might be the key

martin: the 5 circles look a bit odd on the black unfortunately. Also the font needs to have a recognisable L because of its resemblance with the number 1 when in lower case. Try to avoid all upper case unless the font face is descrete (like in wwwzone example)

ondarox: definitely like the new guy with the new font. The cube looks too familiar, also (last logo) we don't sell panties <_< (just a joke, no hard feelings) ... Also for the circle with the L avoid filling it, especially with dark colours. The L should be clearer, possibly with a shadow like in our old logo. I do not know if it is better to attach the L to the circle or to have it inside without touching the circomference. I like the concept, I might need some examples.


It's hard to be demanding without sounding so. I know you can all do it. Thanks for your submissions.

Stefano

EDIT: Ondarox, sorry, didn't catch the joke, it's light grey and didn't see the slogan. :D Definitely a good business line for the future.

[Raja]

http://24.192.15.159/4fun/ludos4.gif

[comludos]

Hi Ondarox,

great, can you try this new face in black with grey shadow and in white on black with light grey shadow?

Can you also try to shadow the previous (second) face and try with some other fonts, just for comparison.

Stefano

[motiveX]

Originally posted by ondarox@May 6 2003, 07:27 AM
http://24.192.15.159/4fun/ludos3.gif
:o :tup: :lol:

[comludos]

Go ondarox, Go, Just Play It :D

[Raja]

http://24.192.15.159/4fun/ludos5.gif

[comludos]

Hi ondarox,

thanks. For the last Guy Face can you

make the font normal rather than bold, or is that the standard font width? I'd like to compare the two, it is not too clear (when on black background and bold font) that it is a face.

FOR ALL DESIGNERS: Please experiment with other designs, let's make it competitive. :tup:

Good Luck Everyone

Stefano

[comludos]

ADD ON: Ondarox, I have seen the smaller version but can you make it straight, pointing right, and 3d black on white and 3d white on black, if possible.

Stefano

[Raja]

http://24.192.15.159/4fun/x.gif

[sparkie]

I take it you like the little characters made out of words/shapes, so here's my go:

[sparkie]

Bleh. would help if I attached it ;)

[sparkie]

And another!

[comludos]

Hi Sparkie,

thanks for your post. Please do not assume we would only want the word Ludos to make up a shape or form. Try some new designs.

Ondarox, I absolutely understand, please do not feel like you have to do it all by today, or for that matter tomorrow. Your design is very, very good, but we would like to see some fixes and if possible compare it with other designs, from your own creations or other designers.

We have decided to step it up to US$150, will arrange it with Palmer in the next few minutes.

We also have new projects coming up, let's take it one step at a time.

Thanks everyone,

Stefano

[Victoria]

the exhausted dude picture
You know you love it really. ;)

[comludos]

Ondarox,

just one further thing (Victoria seems to know you well, so I am daring ...). Can you also try the face without the shadow. Also can you apply the design of the face to a t-shirt.

Come on Vicotria, get on with it :angry: :blink: :( :D

[Victoria]

Hehe. I will work on something ASAP. :P Right now though it's 12.05am and i've got to be up in 9 hours. So, goodnight! :) Wait for my entry!! :lol2:

[Palmer]

Designers note, I have received further payment. The prize is now $150.

In addition, please note that the contest is for 3 things...

1) Web logo
2) Print Logo
3) Bookmark Icon (also called a favicon (http://www.favicon.com))

Good luck :tup:

[ElKootcho]

:tup:

[comludos]

Hi Elkootcho,

thanks for your entry. One veru positive thing is the yellowish colour, it looks very very good on black and I think it's ideal to break a bit the current monotony and make the logo stick out.

Definitely the gold/yellow colour, for the rest I need more examples, I am not too convinced yet, but overall excellent start.

thanks,

Stefano

EDIT: kootcho, keep in mind we are trying to give an idea of innovation (not to say your logo is not original, which is a different issue), the logo is certainly authoritative in appearance but I think it lacks in the concept of innovation. Consider our market is male 25-35. The idea of working around a circle is still very good

[comludos]

Talking about colour blind, I meant we like the orange on black. How is yellow/gold on black?

Stefano

[pram]

here are some ideas (the gear image represents progress/innovation/momentum etc)

[comludos]

Hi Pram,

thanks for your submission. I am not sure the gears would work. We would prefer to portray a way of life more than a conceptual idea of our products. You have to Ludos to be cool, for example, but must also conceptualise that it is an efficient business (clarity and simplicity of logo), modern, as well as a solid business. I can only try to put it into words, hope it's enough. Try working on the circle idea with these concepts in mind.

I have seen your other works and am positively impressed. Keep them coming.

Waiting for it to tick B)

Stefano

[pram]

Stefano:

Sounds like you want to position Ludos as a "lifestyle" oriented brand. Many brands do this well and some examples I can think of are NIKE, FORD, MERCEDES, BMW, TOMMY HILFIGER, ROLEX, TAG HEUER, EDDIE BAUER, SAMSUNG, MOTOROLA, SONY, BROOKS BROTHERS, PRADA, MACINTOSH...ETC

The point being that lifestyle brands often spend billions of dollars communicating aspirational messages to their target audience to directly associate their brand/logo with a way of life that they have determined as being the goal of their audience. A logo on its own has many obstacles to accomplish the etablishment of the concept of LIFESTYLE.

Take THE SHARPER IMAGE for example. They essentially lead the category in the US for being known as THE place to find innovative, cutting edge, modern and technologically advanced products, gadgets etc. There really is no other competitor (except Hammaker Schlemmer who do not have the distribution prowess because they do not have stand-alone stores across the country).

Neither of these companies have a particulalry distinct logo, rather, their mark is classic, understated, and clean etc. This is primarily due to the fact that they try to appeal to a certain mindset which would probably not find a "trendy" or "hip" logo part of their visual language. Somewhat conservative I beleive.

These are some thoughts to consider. Perhaps you might have some specific examples of LIFESTYLE oriented companies that you feel might accomplish what you'd like to accomplish with LUDOS.

Could you take a look and provide some examples please?

[pram]

[comludos]

Hi Pram,

thank you for your exhaustive response, you have grasped in many ways the concept I am trying to bring forward. Nike is a very good example, a simple check sign and a motto have done wonders (putting aside the billions for the moment), so well that now you see a tick simble and you think of nike (I think the billions are just part of it, they must have created their logo for a reason before investing billions). All the other brands I am not sure they would closely apply.

The sharper image is a very good example, no logo, just a name, but they have a different target group, 30 to 50. What I mean by lifestyle is the lifestyle of a male between 25 and 35/40. It cannot be too hip, too establishment-like, or too young. It should be balanced, with a touch of inventivness and smartness, I think the answer is minimalist, simple, and clear.

An L inside a circle is the example we brought forward from the beginning but noone or few have experimented with that idea. Obviously other concepts are welcomed. If experimenting with our old company logo the L should be highly visible, and .com must appear.

Stefano

[pram]

Stefano:

Actually, NIKE only recently adopted the "swoosh" as their mark within the last 10-15 years. Their original logo was simply a type treatment. The "swoosh" was part of their shoe design elements and ultimately evolved as their logo.

The main reason, at least for me, trying an L inside a circle is not very apetising is because it just doesn't have a dynamic that offers much int erms of distinctiveness.

I will, however, give some thought to featuring an L inside some sort of shape.

ideas to come shortly.

[pram]

[comludos]

Hi Pram,

don't feel like you have to stick to our old idea. I am not a designer but I can try to give you as many guidelines as you may need. We want to be inspired. If you can also try something gold or yellow on black like elkootcho's logo, we liked that, both as a company and a sa web logo.

thanks,

SC

[FTIGraphix]

Very articulate response Pram :tup: . It's suprising how much I learn watching these competitions....

[CarolinaMan]

;) CarolinaMan offers this design for your review and comments.

[comludos]

Here is the tick,

the globe is great, no outline. Like the idea of universal, globalised, definitely!

It misses the connection with innovative products, I would also change the character for the L. Also Ludos.com should not touch the globe outline, and the . should be smaller.

Overall great inspiration, thanks carolinaman.

Stefano

[pram]

Stefano:

Could you possibly provide some links to logos that you feel offer a sense of "innovation"?

This would help immensly. Otherwise it seems like we are sort of shooting in the dark - so to speak. I realise that it may be difficult to articulate what you have envisioned in your mind, so perhaps some examples might help. Even examples of logos that you really like and why.

Thanks,

[pram]

[comludos]

Hi Pram,

thank you for your message. To be honest I have not envisioned anything for the moment, lack of graphic vision I guess. You have all submitted very good concepts but I need to see some integrated solutions, also possibly applying your proposal to the image of our site I have submitted in our second post.

Can you provide a website where I can view logos. I have only had a chance to take a look at ondarox's site. I liked his 5 senses logo, muscle fire logo, and x365 logo. I am looking for something exceptional which does not mean complicated or that requires a lot of work, it just needs to be ingenious :tup: .

If you have some references of logos I can take a look at please post them.

thanks,

SC

[pram]

Stefano:

I only ask this because approaching logo design from a subjective standpoint often seems like spinning wheels. I typically try to get my clients to work with me to establish some qualatative objectives in order to keep everything on course. Otherwise, things digress into the "I know what I want when I see it" type of thing; which is more often than not, unproductive for all involved.

There is one site that I can recommend to see logos - www.logolounge.com

I am a member there. most of what you will see are logos designed by major design firms and advertising agencies. Additionally there are quite a few freelance submissions as well.

[pram]

[comludos]

Hi Pram,

I am 100% with your idea of structuring a plan.

The site you provided requires a membership subscription, I am not too sure if there is another way to view the logos, can you clarify?

thanks,

SC

[pram]

Stefano:

Ahhh...I didn't think about that. Sorry.

Hmmm. I would suggest doing a search on the web for retail companies that provide services or products to similar customers. Surely there are market leaders, or brands that characterize the mindset and aesthetic context of your target audience.

[pram]

[Palmer]

Originally posted by ludos.com@May 7 2003, 05:57 PM
Can you provide a website where I can view logos.
http://www.designoutpost.com/gallery/
http://www.tlf-logo-design.com/category_lo...ogos/index.html
http://www.coolhomepages.com/newstatic/Logos/1.html
http://www.logoed.fsnet.co.uk/logos.html
http://logo.nino.ru/main/?id=135&first=A
http://www.lunarmedia.net/logoportfolio27.htm

[Raja]

http://24.192.15.159/4fun/LUDOS6.GIF

[comludos]

Hi,

thanks for the support. I am looking through logos right now.

NOTICE: I realised just how many logos with globes exist, so sorry carolinaman but please cancel any designs with globes.

I will post a picture with the logos that have caught my attention. I cannot obviously provide a final solution but I hope the hints are helpful for your final creations.

SC

[pram]

Stefano:

Great! Thanks a lot!

[pram]

[comludos]

Hi ondarox,

thanks for your patience. The logo looks really good on the t-shirt (probably better black). I am not sure about the silver colour, can you make the large logo 3d black, smaller, and Ludos.com bigger (trying also Ludos.com and ludos.com).

Please test other fonts for Ludos.com and the slogan (to fit with your face design). Also for the web logo try the face design in 3d white and 3d orange (you did this already), and try to integrate Ludos.com (with 'Gadgets for all Generations' below) over the image shot of our site, it will give me a much better idea.

thanks,

SC

[comludos]

Hi ondarox,

one more thing, I really like your musclefire and 5senses logos. What does this mean :blink: , I am not sure. I really like your idea but I am not 100% convinced. Try making it 3dblack, 3dred, and possibly flat black without shadow.

Also have you tried creating the face with other fonts, since your first face you have submitted 3 alternatives and inproved 3 fold, how about improving 4 fold or more.

See what you can do.

SC

[comludos]

Attached is an image with the logos that grabbed my attention (thanks Palmer for all the links).

I especially like the Napster logo (the way the integrated their image with the wod napster)

Macromedia is great at making its font (and therefore its name) clear to the eye.

Barrientos Oviedo integrates an image between words

4wall films, I like their 3d image, especially the angle, and the kangol logo the way the kangoroo is positioned to look out-right

ebookers is another great example of integration as well as illumin.

I'd like to see a bitmap image on top of the logo but I am not sure what. It also has to be clear, striking, and I think therefore simple. The font face is very important to achieve this.

Hope you'll all be wearing ludos panties in 5 years time or less, so make sure they'll have a nice logo, right? :D

I also wouldn't mind if the winner of this context was nominated for an award :blink: , I want something striking, that's all folks.

SC

EDIT: Guys, an addition. By simple I don't mean naked. Take the napster logo, it's simple yet conveys the perfect message.

[Palmer]

Oooh I like that 4 wall films. Nice choice :tup:

[Mike]

It only has 1 wall though :blink:

[comludos]

Yes that the amazing bit, it stands on its shadow, go figure.

[Mike]

Ah :huh:

I should stick to programming ;)

[CarolinaMan]

;) CarolinaMan submits the following for your review and consideration. Looking forward to your response....

[Mike]

Uh, CarolinaMan, isn't that the same logo? :huh:

[ElKootcho]

:tup:

[Raja]

http://24.192.15.159/4fun/ludos7.gif

[Raja]

http://24.192.15.159/4fun/ludos8.gif

[Palmer]

Freaky :wacko: Very MC Escher-ish (http://www.mcescher.com/Gallery/recogn-bmp/LW435.jpg) :)

[Raja]

http://24.192.15.159/4fun/ludos9.gif

[Radu]

;)

[Victoria]

:o :P Excuse my insanity.
<img src='http://inertia.dilloway.net/DO/ludos.jpg[/img]

[comludos]

Hi Guys,

thanks for all your posts. Sorry I have been out all day. Let's give some feedback:

kootcho: great new concept. It is simple, and to the point. One concern, the bulb might be common, although I still like it. Can you try anyway with another bitmap, and definitely another font for Ludos and slogan (try with ITC Officina, we like it, or other fonts you think are appropriate). Also try to integrate the logo with the writing (like the Napster logo) keeping simplicity.

rox, thanks for your last three posts. I think the second logo is very good for designer clothing or accessories, it's a really good idea but I am missing the S in your ondaparadox. First and third logos a no no. But I really love your face idea, I need to see something more though, it's too simple for the moment, it must strike me and especially pram :D . make the face smaller and Ludos.com more visible. Also try another font for Ludos.com, and include the slogan. And try doing something with the face (either 3d or improving the font - I think we need something in between your second face and third face. The second face was more structured, while the third face looks more like a hip traveller, although still serious and exploratory). I know you can do it, surprise me.

wwwzone, I definitely like the second logo from the top, I can already inform you that it will be up for evaluations amongst all final accepted designs. Try something else if you feel you can come up with something as good

victoria (finally :D ) I like your imagery on the left of the logo. I am not sure about the actual symbols. Try something new and try to integrate with the writing either on the right or left of Ludos.com (or ludos.com).

thanks guys,

Stefano

[comludos]

ondarox, I have attached an image of something that could be helpful. I am not too sure about our current use of ITC Officina, if you can find a font that would better fit the outline we would consider it.

Also, for the company logo I need to see something more striking, maybe 3dblack with the same style you used for musclefire 3d flame.

I can then get an idea if your submission would suit our design and purpose.

For all designers: Innovations Online sounds much better and it's easier to adapt to the languages later on. It should fit the length of Ludos.com. The other slogan worked for us before even if our target market is within a certain age range, but we have finally decided to drop it so please discard it from now on.

thanks,

Stefano

[Victoria]

:o I tried to incorporate some game-theme, and came up with a dice. I don't know if you can see it clearly but on the bottom logo the '.' is a little dice.. :D
Oh, and the first one is a little face being happy...i.e playing a game. :)
<img src='http://inertia.dilloway.net/DO/ludos2.jpg[/img]

[comludos]

Hi Victoria,

I definitely like the orange dice. Innovations online should extend underneath the dice too. That is your most promising design, try with a more distinctive font and I will definitely put it up for consideration.

thanks,

Stefano

EDIT: LUDOS is fine (missing .com however, and the L horizontal leg is too short)

[Victoria]

:)
<img src='http://inertia.dilloway.net/DO/ludos3.jpg[/img]

[comludos]

Hi Victoria,

thanks, much better. The font is not too distinctive, can you try with kootcho's Innovations Online font, that was quite clear, or something similar.

Also enlarge it a bit so I can see the details.

thanks,

SC

[Victoria]

Sure thing, if ElKootcho wouldn't mind letting me know which font that is.. ;) :tup:

[Palmer]

Sorry, that might be close to a rules violation :) Get ElKootchos permission first...

[Victoria]

Get ElKootchos permission first...
Sure thing :) *whispers* ElKootcho? :help:

[comludos]

Hi Palmer,

who should get permission? Me or Victoria?

thanks,

SC

EDIT: thought so, wasn't too sure from your message, thanks for clarifying.

[Palmer]

Victoria. They have a rule to not copy each other. So she'll have to find out if Kootch minds if she uses the same font. :)

[ElKootcho]

Originally posted by Victoria@May 8 2003, 09:40 AM
Sure thing, if ElKootcho wouldn't mind letting me know which font that is.. ;) :tup:
How dare you! :furious:

Actually, I'll let you know tonight, (tonight in Los Angeles!). The design is at home, right now I'm at "work" :sean:

[Mike]

Originally posted by ondarox@May 7 2003, 10:20 PM
http://24.192.15.159/4fun/ludos9.gif
ah :huh: :blink: :o

it's a small box in a three wall room. No, it a big box with a piece missing. No!, its two boxes lined up :sick:

[comludos]

victoria, don't feel like you have to use the same, just similar. Also keep it the original size don't shrink it, so we can see it.

thanks,

SC

[Victoria]

Do you mean the font for Ludos.com or the Innovations Online? :help:

[comludos]

Hi Victoria,

innovations online.

kootcho: when you get the time to read this, I liked your concept but am not convinced by the bitmap and Ludos.com font.

Design Team: Choice between all caps and all lower case is subjective to your styles and design.

SC

[Victoria]

:) The favico for this would be the dice.
<img src='http://inertia.dilloway.net/DO/ludos4.jpg[/img]

[comludos]

Hi Elkootcho,

I thought maybe the problem is the font size for Ludos.com. Can you try using a different font size?

Victoria, thanks, I have selected your logo amongst the selection options. Will let you know as soon as we have a submission from al or most designers.

thanks everyone,

SC

[comludos]

Hi Design Team,

maybe to shorten the actual design process can you just submit for the moment a conceptualised bitmap for Ludos.com. Examples submitted thus far are Elkootcho's bulb, ondarox's face, and Victoria's dice.

Be as inventive as possible, and stick to 2 colours.

SC

[pram]

Hmmm...

Not sure I know what you mean by "conceptualised bitmap for Ludos.com"

Can you explain?

[pram]

[comludos]

Hi Pram,

I have given examples of bitmaps submitted by your other peers, I would like to see something that represents Ludos.com. For example, for ferrari is the black horse inside a yellow shield, for vodafone it's the quote, for napster it's the little devil cat with headphones (I am sure you know all the names for these), something that sums up Ludos.com, any ideas welcomed, try to give context and keep it simple.

Hope it's clearer now.

thanks,

SC

[pram]

Oh, okay. Your use of the word "bitmap" confused me. We are still talking about logos, right?

[pram]

[ElKootcho]

The birthplace of all innovation - the "thought bubble"! :tup:

[comludos]

Hi Pram,

sure, we all know the meaning of bitmap or mapping bits. I just need the bit I asked for, you are quite picky, I like that, how about a logo. :huh:

Hi Kootcho, I like the idea but it is too ebookers like. I need something original, unduplicable (aside from copyright of course).

There is an end to this context, so don't think I am throwing you around, I just need to see something that will distinguish our company wihtout shadow of a doubt.

see what you can do, despite what I said in another post I reevaluated my thought later on on your bulb concept indicating that you might need to change the font for Ludos.com. Try that out and see what you can come up with, I think the previous font was a bit distracting. I liked the way you split it yellow and white.

SC

EDIT: Also guys, try to follow the line fo thought by reading the posts. I have included some recommednations to avoid anyone having to design something new instead of building on something you have already created. If you need any clarifications (pram? :D ) just post it and I'll summarise where we are at with your specific logo design.

[Raja]

http://24.192.15.159/4fun/LUDOS10.GIF

[comludos]

Hi ondarox,

thanks. Is that honey? I like the yellow and the 3d, and the way you have experimented with the logo and managed to fit the URL below.

Please Company logo with white background only, and web logo with black background. This probably means that if you choose to use yellow it might need to have a black outline to stick out on white background.

Can you try the following:

Your last face design (or a compromise between your second face design and your third/last face design) in black3d (like the silver one you have created) with Ludos.com underneath and Innovations Online fitting the length of and underneath Ludos.com.

I would like the face to stick out, if you can shadow it like the musclefire logo. Also is there anything that you think may be added to the face to make it any more logo like (without making it heavy).

You have a very creative mind, top guy.

thanks,

SC

[ElKootcho]

Reduced the font size and some other tweaks. I'll experiment with other fonts shortly.

[ElKootcho]

Another, less prominent font.

[TwistedNewMedia]

Here you go :)

[comludos]

Hi Kootcho,

I think the very first design with the bulb is best (one you submitted a few pages ago). I also like the second of these three latest you submitted, they are very similar or the same I think and the font works well too in the end (you seem to know what's best after all, good eye). It will be included amongst the final designs up for the final decision.

Can you submit a Company Logo (note: background for company logo must be white, maybe a black outline would make the yellow stick out)

Uber: I like the idea but I am not too sure how it would fit on black and for the height of our website top bar. Can you rethink around these points?

wwwzone: can you submit your Web Logo proposal so we can join it with your Company Logo proposal.

victoria: the other way round, can you submit your Company Logo proposal.

thanks,

SC

[Radu]

wwwzone: can you submit your Web Logo proposal so we can join it with your Company Logo proposal
Sure. I'll submit something later today - (my timezone is GMT+2).

-Ruairi

[Victoria]

Sure, as soon as I get home. :)

[comludos]

Hi Guys,

ok thanks, look forward to your submissions.

An update.

Maximum Web Logo dimensions: 270 * 50

SC

[TwistedNewMedia]

Ok, Ill remake the logo according to those dimensions.

[comludos]

Hi Uber,

please consider also that Ludos.com or ludos.com should be highly visible, and should take most of the space available (remember also to include Innovations Online below the ludos.com). The top gear would take too much space. I think it's an excellent idea but I don't see it working for our design. Unfortunately in our case we need a Web logo around our site and not the other way round. If you think you can tweak it, super. I think you may resolve the problem by making the top gear smaller, although that might decrase the effectivness of your logo.

I leave it to you.

thanks,

SC

[Victoria]

Right, you want the logo on a white background to fit the dimensions 270x50? :unsure:

[comludos]

Hi Victoria,

in your case you would need to develop a Company Logo. The company logo can be any size (but vector graphic) as it will be used only for print. Background colour must be white.

thanks SC

[TwistedNewMedia]

Heres the new entry, the dimensions are exactly 270x50.

[Victoria]

Gotcha. :P :)
<img src='http://inertia.dilloway.net/DO/ludos5.jpg[/img]

[TwistedNewMedia]

:D

[Raja]

http://24.192.15.159/4fun/ludos11.gif

[chelle]

B)

[comludos]

Hi guys,

thanks, great improvements.

Victoria, I will accept your second company logo

Uber, great adaptation, if you can make Lud s.com more visible (lighter blue), otherwise great, your logos will be accepted for final decision.

ondarox, great improvement, same as above, we will accept your proposal. I need some improvements on the font used to display Ludos.com and Innovations Online. I liked kootcho's choice of font, especially for the slogan, I understand designers are not allowed to copy from each other, see if you can come up with your own font styles (thanks for recommendation but online innovations is a different thing, more on the webagency side, although it may seem a bit of a chicken egg dilemma). We like the face black. Also I would like to see the Company Logo with the 3d face you have created enlarged (not as large as the silver one you created a while ago), with Ludos.com or ludos.com below and Innovations Online below it.

I can already say you have a very good chance of winning this context, this also applies for elkootcho, uber, and victoria. Pram, when you are done winding me up :D post your proposal, I like your artistic style.

Note for all designers: if you feel you can do better we may accept another submission whether you have already provided a proposal or not. I have decided to anticipate the deadline to the 21.05.2003. Do your best till the last.

Also cr8or and chelle, I know you are planning something, I definitely look forward to it.

thanks everyone, any clarifications please post.

SC

[TwistedNewMedia]

Here an example with the blue lightened.

[TwistedNewMedia]

And one more shade.

[comludos]

Hi Uber,

sorry, one last modficiation. Can you please make INNOVATIONS ONLINE more visible. The second, lightest, logo is best.

chelle, I like the way you worked with the L, there might be some conflict with wwwzone's design. The colour is a bit sober, try working on the image first, we can then move from there.

thanks,

SC

[TwistedNewMedia]

:lol2:

[chelle]

Sorry, I hadn't noticed wwwzones logo style. My apologies. I will try something else if I can find the time.
:rolleyes: B)

[comludos]

Hi,

uber: if you can make it similar but all capitals (INNOVATIONS ONLINE) and align it with ludos.com. That's all.

chelle: sure, I know you didn't do it on purpose, hope you get the time to submit a new proposal

ondarox: the guy's face looks a bit sad, and with the background light he seems shocked (do you agree?). Can you tilt the L clockwise so that he looks happy/satisfied and improve his eyes (without losing the connection with the word Ludos)

thanks,

SC

[pram]

don't pay attention to color -

these are just some ideas stemming from my initial gadget/gear idea

[Victoria]

Pram+Ubers designs are kinda crossing over... :unsure:

[TwistedNewMedia]

yeah...

[Palmer]

Great minds think alike :P Not sure who had the gear first though :wacko:

[Radu]

Here's my web logo version.

Sorry, I hadn't noticed wwwzones logo style. My apologies. I will try something else if I can find the time.
Chelle,
live it like that. I don't mind.

[TwistedNewMedia]

Well I dont mind or anything but whatever works.

[pram]

on May 7, 2003 at 10:42 EST I uploaded the following concepts;

[comludos]

Hi Pram,

thanks for posting. There seems to be a problem here, and it is partly my fault. I remember your first post (I remember also saying it didn't work too well, I didn't have the vision to apply the gears somewhere else).

Since then you seem to have cancelled your first post (May 08 2003 at 05:17 PM). Uber has submitted a logo with the gears concept (although rearranging it from your original design) posting it on May 08 2003 at 10:41 PM. I did double check your post at the time but it was already modified. I had no way of verifying if uber had looked at your design and I did not point out the connection as I had no way of verifying nor did I want to assume something I could not prove or disprove. I should have definitely written something. I do not want to create conflict between anyone, I may need Palmer's help here to resolve this.

Sorry for the inconvenience caused, we will sort this out in the shortest time possible.

SC

[comludos]

Hi everyone,

I thought this would raise a problem. If possible we might deal with this logically by looking at the log files (Palmer is this possible), alternatively find an alternative solution.

SC

[pram]

On May 7, approx 8:44 AM (Pacific?) I posted the original gear concepts.

After which you indicated that the ideas were not on target...ultimately I took them down (for various reasons)

Then, I noticed the thread had some participants proceeding along with a gear concept - so i figured it would be fair for me to reintroduce my concepts with some new thoughts on using the gear.

Frankly, if ubergerlgeek ( :) hi there ) has an execution using the gear that works for you, by all means proceed. In the end it is all about execution anyhow.

In the spirit of fairness, i can defer to whichever direction this takes.

[pram]

[Palmer]

Yeah, I'm seeing prams missing entry as well but it definately mentions using gears and the post after by Ludos.com mentions the gears as well. The judge so hereby rules in favor of pram for the exclusive rights to use gears in this logo contest :hammer:

Sorry Uber :( This just isn't your day is it? :D

[comludos]

Hi Palmer,

I agree. My apologies pram but I did not remember the striking similarity with your two gears on top of the logo. If pram and uber agree with the following solution, a 90/10% split can be arranged if their design is selected. This would grant pram the use of uber's adaptation for any modifications.

Thanks guys,

SC

[pram]

honestly, it is fine to go with whatever execution you prefer..it is not that big of a deal to me and i do not want to cause dissention amongst the ranks..i am very new here :)

i had a lot of fun doing the ideas i presented, and possibly one might make it into my portfolio

i would not have any hard feelings whatsoever if you choose to go with ubergerlgeek's executions

[pram]

[comludos]

Hi Pram,

thanks, I admire your honesty, but I am sure uber is with us on this. It is also my fault, please accept my apology. His adaptation is good but it is not ultimately his idea. The agreement stated above is only for the split of the reward. The copyright belongs (by law I believe) to you. I don't know all the rules but it may also be that ultimately he has to foregive any adaptations he has made and therefore the agreement I suggested does not apply and all concepts around gears belong to you.

Business as usual now.

pram: I Like the gear design. I think it could be improved (I especially liked your 2nd logo of your latest additions). I am also impressed by your TC4FM logo (the second of your May 7 post). I like it's simplicity, yet it's catchy. See if you can work the greys with your gear concept, right now the colours and styles look a bit too play like. The image we would like to portray is that of Innovation, very important.

wwwzone: thanks, I like the different shades of grey, can you make the whole thing lighter so it's more visible.

SC

[Victoria]

:)
<img src='http://inertia.dilloway.net/DO/ludos6.jpg[/img]

[chelle]

Originally posted by wwwzone@May 9 2003, 02:05 PM
Chelle,
live it like that. I don't mind.
Thanks, I appreciate that... :D

[Raja]

http://24.192.15.159/4fun/ludos12.gif

[comludos]

Hi rox,

thanks, I like the eyes now. Please keep your grid background, it loks good (I also liked the light behind the logo a lot, see if you can include it without altering the appearance of the eyes). Also for the new mouth I think we are losing the L. Maybe (using the previous design) just bend slightly upwards one third of the first leg of the horizontal L :blink: ).

SC

[comludos]

EXAMPLE ATTACHED:

The smile should show very discrete satisfaction, more precisely pride, without looking like a grin.

Also I need to see a better font, something closer to Elkootcho's or our ITC Officina font.

I am pretty confident this is the last modification needed, + the Company Logo.

thanks,

SC

[Victoria]

No thoughts on my other ideas? :blink: :) :unsure:

[comludos]

Hi Victoria,

sorry, got caught up in the problem. What I liked from your previous logo was its simplicity and the choice of a schematic dice or chess like board. I thought that was very good.

Try to work on a similar concept (you do not need to submit the whole name and slogan, just the bitmap that you think would fit best with our name and slogan. After we have discussed the compatibility of a specific bitmap we can then move to the apprpriate font)

The examples you submited have mixed or duplicate images and I cannot see the connection with our concept.

thanks,

SC

EDIT: Hi uber, no hard feelings but I am afraid the concept was developed before your submission. There are those days when bad luck goes only your way, it can only get better.

[TwistedNewMedia]

hmm, well I can withdraw this one too if you want.

[Victoria]

Okeydoke. :D I will go back to the drawing board. :)

[comludos]

Hi Elkootcho,

can I please have a Company Logo for your proposal (white background).

thanks,

SC

EDIT: Thanks kootcho.

[ElKootcho]

Originally posted by ludos.com@May 9 2003, 03:44 PM
Hi Elkootcho,

can I please have a Company Logo for your proposal (white background).

thanks,

SC
I'll post that tonight. (Los Angeles time :tup: )

[ElKootcho]

Here you go...

[Radu]

wwwzone: thanks, I like the different shades of grey, can you make the whole thing lighter so it's more visible.

Here it is.

-R

[comludos]

Hi,

kootcho: thanks it looks almost perfect, can you make Ludos stick out more by increasing the black outline width around Ludos and the bulb, otherwise it's good.

wwwzone: nice improvement, I like your idea a lot.

thanks,

SC

[Victoria]

:wee: :woot: :lol:
<img src='http://inertia.dilloway.net/DO/ludos7.jpg[/img]

http://inertia.dilloway.net/DO/ludos8.jpg

[Radu]

wwwzone: nice improvement, I like your idea a lot.
Thanks, it was fun doing it :)

By the way,
here is a new version for the web logo and some variations for the company logo.

-Ruairi

[Raja]

http://24.192.15.159/4fun/ludos13.gif

[comludos]

Hi guys,

thanks for your new posts:

victoria: definitely like the 4 colours square. Is there any issue with Microsoft?

wwwzone: definitely prefer the new colours, but keep the same style. Can you update your web logo to these new colours, ensuring they are visible, ie lighter I think.

rox: I like your previous version (the black 3d), don't change that, just work on the L and the smile/expression. I have attached a reviewed image. I like the idea of putting the face to the right, however this makes the logo heigher than the maximum height of 50px. See what you can do. I really look forward to seeing the Company Logo to see the 3d black face in large size (remember, Company Logo only white background).

Attached image below.

thanks guys, keep up the good work. Submissions will be accepted up to the 21.05, I will give you feedback throughout. It may be that the deadline will be anticipated further, I don't know yet.

SC

[Raja]

http://24.192.15.159/4fun/ludos14.gif

[Victoria]

I shouldn't think so. My college has near enough the same colours in a square like that. Do you wish me to put some text with it for you to see? :)

[chelle]

B)

[Radu]

Here's the updated web logo.

-Ruairi

[comludos]

Hi Rox,

that was quick and telepathic. Much better but:

1) I would like to see it black, not grey. I know 3d makes it look greyish due to the shadows, is there any way you can improve it.
2) Find attaced a revised image. The font for Ludos.com is much better, I have mixed feelings about the arrangement. See if you can find an even better font, otherwise it looks very professional.

Also can you submit your final web logo in line with the new recommendations in my previous post, and either unifying the company logo to the web logo or viceversa.

thanks,

SC

[comludos]

attached, sorry.

SC

[Victoria]

:unsure:
<img src='http://inertia.dilloway.net/DO/ludos9.jpg[/img]

[comludos]

Hi again:

Victoria: I like the idea, if you are sure ok, otherwise don't get us into trouble. Can you post both versions for evaluations (company and web), thanks.

Chelle: looks more like a book store concept, otherwise great. Note that the slogan should be Innovations Online as updated in a previous post.

wwwzone: same as before, could you make it a bit lighter and visible, otherwise, great as usual.

thank you,

SC

[chelle]

Thanks thats what I was hoping to achieve, a good bookstore look for a gadet company! :lol:

Also I have only been reading your first post to what you wanted for slogans, so you may want to edit that, if the slogan has changed for both print and internet use.

[Raja]

http://24.192.15.159/4fun/ludos15.gif

[comludos]

Hi Chelle,

you are absolutely right, isn't this getting biblical. I will edit the post right now.

thanks,

SC

[Victoria]

:o :lol: Depending on colour or greys, the square would be the favico. :tup:
<img src='http://inertia.dilloway.net/DO/ludos10.jpg[/img]

[comludos]

Hi rox,

super, thanks. Can you now unify the web and company logo so we can wrap it up. I still have some concerns for the font used (the D can be confused for a J, otherwise I like the technological/futuristic look). Also regarding the smile/capital L, it has a little spiky thing which I rounded up to give you an idea. I overdid it, but I woul like you to reduce it as I think it's distracting. Maybe these are changes that should be done if the design is accepted so I guess don't bother until we have made a final decision.

thanks for all your effort and inventivness.

SC

[Raja]

http://24.192.15.159/4fun/ludos16.gif

[comludos]

Hi,

Victoria: I like your adaptations. I will accept them as a whole as they are very similar and all valid proposals.

ondarox: no orange please, just how you did it a qhile ago, with the grid, black3d, and with a background light. If you can't fit the eyeballs then just make the eye all white, it will look like he has sunglasses or glasses. Also Innovations Online must be below Ludos.com or ludos.com. Face to the left please.

SC

[Raja]

http://24.192.15.159/4fun/ludos17.gif

[ElKootcho]

Originally posted by ludos.com@May 10 2003, 03:37 AM
kootcho: thanks it looks almost perfect, can you make Ludos stick out more by increasing the black outline width around Ludos and the bulb, otherwise it's good.

done

[comludos]

Hi Guys,

ok we are getting pretty close, this context might have to end soon.

ondarox: I like the idea of giving him glasses, I think however sunglasses lose the connection with the word. In my 'modification' I simply made the inside of the d and the o white. Can you use the same effect you have adopted above, but using very very light grey or even white, I don't know, you are best at these things. Otherwise it's perfect, I even prefer this greyish grid rather than the previous yellowish one, well done. The font needs improvement.

kootcho: it looks good but I think it could be improved by making it stick out as in 3d. If you can give me an idea of how that would work we can have a better visualisation of the final result.

wwwzone: just the final modification as indicated in previous post.

We might call this off any day now so if you have some final tweaks, improvements, or new proposals to submit do it shortly. cr8or we are hoping in a submission from you, hope to see your work soon, and pram, sorry about all the confusion, if you wish to submit your proposal it will be accepted with whatever changes and adaptations.

It's been great everyone, Palmer I wish you all the success in this world, you deserve it. I'll make sure my testimonial is up at the end of the context, the site is simple, clean, a real pleasure, keep it up as you expand. Oh, and send me the hosting bill :D , quite a thread this has been.

We'll be back shortly for new projects for us and for our clients.

Thanks everyone,

SC

[Radu]

wwwzone: just the final modification as indicated in previous post.
UPS :rolleyes: - it's done now.

[pram]

this is my final concept for Ludos

[comludos]

Hi,

pram: thanks for your continued support. I like the idea in part, as you know Ludos comes from latin and I did mention you could work on that connection. However it's too direct, but I like it. I will include both of your proposals in the final document.

wwwzone: thanks, excellent concept, hold tight.

All Designers: if you wish to make your final tweaks please do so as soon as possible as I am producing the final document. Ultimately the whole group will decide so do your best to impress everyone and make sure your ideas are complete and error free. Any questions please ask.

SC

[pram]

Latin? Hmmm..if my last contribution has a Latin flavor, it is coincidental. I was working with youre earlier suggestion to use an L in a circle. As I mentioned, there is not much to choose from in terms of Ls that have any interest on their own, so, I created one by hand.

[pram]

[ElKootcho]

Originally posted by ludos.com@May 10 2003, 09:18 AM
kootcho: it looks good but I think it could be improved by making it stick out as in 3d. If you can give me an idea of how that would work we can have a better visualisation of the final result.
Here you go...

[comludos]

Hi,

pram: I like it, I have included your production amongst the finalists.

kootcho: thanks, if you think you can come up with something better please do so by all means.

thanks,

SC

[cre8or]

Originally posted by ludos.com@May 10 2003, 01:18 PM
cr8or we are hoping in a submission from you, hope to see your work soon...
Stefano,
Please accept this as my submission.
The symbol is a stylized "lightbulb" to try to symbolize the "innovation" concept.
It's built out of an exclamation mark "!". Which is to convey bold, "progressive thinking".
The "screw-threads" at the bottom of the stylized lightbulb symbolize the "gadgetry". (and
the literal lightbulb threads).

The lightbulb symbol made into an "L" standing of course for "Ludos.com" could posibly be
"brand" mark you're looking for. It could go on Tshirts simply by itself (similar to the Nike swoosh".)

The little wee ones show the bookmark "favicons".

I'll post these bad-boys on black in just a bit.
:)

[cre8or]

Here they are on black.
They're all vector, so they can be scaled - no problems - and the colours can be changed easily.
They can also be used for a variety of applications, ie: print, business cards, t-shirts, etc.
:)
Please let me know what you think.
-Kimber.

[comludos]

Hi cr8or,

I have mixed feelings on this. I like the L concept, and your design is very clear. But I am not convinced by the futuristic bulb. It looks (probably because I have not seen the future) more like a cosmetic eylashes/mascara brush. Also (some insight) it relates specifically to a few products we distribute, this is too bias for the logo. Nevertheless I like the way you splitted the L, embracing the writing, and also the way the bitmap fits the favicon. The web logo is maybe a bit too light/opaque.

I really liked what you did for alaska extreme distributions, I was hoping on something more of that genre, more striking, yet using few colours. See what you can do, there is still some time before the final decision, and thanks for entering :tup: .

SC

EDIT: please note that the slogan has been changed to only Innovations Online, there may have been some confusion due to the original post, now edited. Also the maximum size for the web logo is 170*50.

[comludos]

2 more logos we liked, some inspiration:

Attached.

[Raja]

http://24.192.15.159/4fun/ludos18.gif

[comludos]

Hi rox,

quite an improvement on the font, I definitely like it. It looks like Microsoft's font, is it propriatory or is it a font available publicly?

Can you please also apply the other changes, namely:

1) As I mentioned in one of my posts I rounded one fo the corners of the L, however indicating that I had overdone it. Can you just smooth the sharp corner very slightly instead of making it all round.

2) At some point you have lowered the left eye. I would like to see how the older version (the version with the left eye higher up) is in the Company Logo format.

I liked how you put the eyeballs in for the web logo, however for the Company Logo please keep them as before (looking horizontally). I don't like the other web logo version (silver).

thanks,

SC

EDIT: is the red man you rox? :lol:

[cre8or]

Originally posted by ludos.com@May 11 2003, 06:11 AM
Hi cr8or,

I have mixed feelings on this. I like the L concept, and your design is very clear. But I am not convinced by the futuristic bulb. It looks (probably because I have not seen the future) more like a cosmetic eylashes/mascara brush. Also (some insight) it relates specifically to a few products we distribute, this is too bias for the logo. Nevertheless I like the way you splitted the L, embracing the writing, and also the way the bitmap fits the favicon. The web logo is maybe a bit too light/opaque.

I really liked what you did for alaska extreme distributions, I was hoping on something more of that genre, more striking, yet using few colours. See what you can do, there is still some time before the final decision, and thanks for entering :tup: .

SC

EDIT: please note that the slogan has been changed to only Innovations Online, there may have been some confusion due to the original post, now edited. Also the maximum size for the web logo is 170*50.
A mascara brush, eh? That's a riot I didn't really think that, but upon further investigation... you may be right.
I'll work on something a little different, if you could spare the time.
:)

[comludos]

Hi cr8or,

sure, we'll wait for your entry.

SC

[Juvanescence]

A simple stylish "L".

[comludos]

Hi j,

thanks for working on our specifications. The logo is great and will be included in the final.

Thanks

Marta
Ludos.com

[comludos]

ondarox,

here you go, no confusion. When words can't do it, let images say it all. Can I see this for the company logo, instead of a squeazed bulldog face.

SC

[comludos]

j-design:

a few concerns.

1) Can you make the skematised L straight, to see how it looks (it may be confused for a 4 with missing bits)

2) You seem to have made use of this technique in other designs. Have any of them been accepted?

thanks,

SC

[Juvanescence]

Straightened the "L". As for this style, I have used it in a few logos. None as yet have been chosen. However I have never used the same initial nor would I re-used the symbol if it had been chosen.

As far as I know these symbols are original... I created them and in my opinion the style can be used in as many logos as I choose. :blink:

If that makes any sense.....

[comludos]

Hi J,

if by sense you mean legal sense it depends on where you are from, the terms you have agreed on this site, and any eventual terms we would agree on acceptanc of your proposal.

Can you please make the L straight, maning just as it is typed (L) so to get an idea.

thanks,

SC

[Juvanescence]

As typed.

[comludos]

Hi J,

one last modification. Can you make it half way between your last two, maybe giving a few examples in sequence, each with a different angle.

Also can you try one with each letter inside each circle (L u d o s) and .com underneath the whole thing.

That will be all.

thanks,

SC

[cre8or]

Here's another round.
I kept the exclamation point "!". I still like it, but I've dropped the "futuristic mascara brush" look. ;)
From top right ---. clockwise:
Vector image - print-ready, can be used for favicon. (Square)
Raster image - created to be used for print, but made web-ready, for web logo (Black)
Raster image - again, created forprint, but has been made web-ready, for web-logo (White)
Vector image - print-ready, can be used for promotional items. (L "hugging" text)
Vector image - print ready, can be used for promotional items. (Ludos.com - no "L")

Please advise.
-Kimber.
:)

[comludos]

Hi cr8or,

quite an improvement. Feedback:

1) Definitely like the egg idea, not keen on the arches

2) Definitely prefer the concept of exclamation mark. For the web logo can you:

2.i Include the black exclamation mark inside the egg shape
2.ii Remove the second (horizontal) exclamation mark
2.iii Make the white exclamation mark shorter (Ludos.com should take most of the height)

Any revisions on colours would also be good (yello on white may be a problem, if you can make it more visible great)

If it is not an egg ... it's got to be, no? Anyway, maybe even a circle would work instead.

see what you can do, otherwise great!

thanks,

SC

[cre8or]

Originally posted by ludos.com@May 11 2003, 04:05 PM

If it is not an egg ... it's got to be, no?
For you, it's a golden egg! ;)

I'll work on some revisions.

[Juvanescence]

In sequence.

[comludos]

Definitely N°3, great work J. I realised you wrote that the material is yours, I never said it wasn't, I just needed to know if you have had any accepted designs with a similar concept.

Can you also apply the second revision in my previous post, I will include them in your design. Also you haven't submitted a web logo thinking of it, do it when you can, otherwise it's all wrapped up.

After cr8or's submission it will be all everyone, I know some of you have worked your a..es off on this project and that at times it's been OTT, I just want to thank you for your patience putting up with all the requests, I hope after all that you have enjoyed it, and if not that it has been a positive experience on the professional side.

Decision coming soon.

SC

[Juvanescence]

Website logo, and print. Favicon will be logo at 16x16, as you already know. I didnt think there was need to show you that.

Also what was the second revision. I thought I had done what you wished for. If you could clarify I would be grateful.

[comludos]

Hi J,

sure, it was an edit that's why you probably missed it:


EDIT:

Also can you try one with each letter inside each circle (L u d o s) and .com underneath the whole thing.

That will be all.

thanks,

SC

END EDIT


thanks,

SC

[Juvanescence]

I dunno about that.....

What do you feel about it? :unsure:

[comludos]

HI J,

maybe all capitals, bending them as much as the circle they are in.

SC

[Juvanescence]

Thats better.

[comludos]

Hi J,

that's great thanks, minor tweaks needed if accepted, for example D turned anticlockwise slightly (probably better if straight, perpendicular to horizontal axis), as well as L and U. Not necessary to do it for the moment.

thanks,

SC

[cre8or]

Here's another round.
Each one is a little different.
Hope one strikes your fancy.
;)

[comludos]

Hi cr8or,

thanks. For the company logo I prefer the second (large) one. Background should be white, but leave it for the moment.

for the web logo I prefer N° 3 from the top.

I will anyway present all your submissions.

The decision will be made tomorrow. I will post the result tomorrow, latest Wednesday.

Good luck everyone,

SC

[comludos]

After an unimpressing 197 posts we finally have a winner, and well deserved.

I want to first thank everyone for all your submissions, participation and commitment, you have all shown great inventive spirit, and most importantly patience.

In the end it has come down to 2 designs, and one winner (psst, don't make it any longer)

Ok the winner is:
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provided that he can make some modifications:

Ondarox

Well done raja, I must say I liked your design, ultimately it was the decision of the group, your design has been in most cases the favourite.

We might be interested in acquiring the rights to either ruairi's or j-desing's logo for our .net website. If you are interested please contact us and we can arrange something (Palmer if this is within your jurisdiction please let me know). The logo would need to be modified to .net and a minor slogan change (b2b innovations).

Ondarox, if you did not hurt yourself on your last chilean jump get back to me for the last arrangements, you seem to be on a roll so if you have other work we can hold 3rd in line, but I need the modifications I have requested (about 20 times now, you should be familiar with them).

To the next project.

SC

[Victoria]

Eeeeh another loss. :( I shall up my game a bit now. :P

[comludos]

Hi Victoria,

I was about to post a message about your designs. I have been very impressed by your concepts, I know it is not enough and that ultimately it is important to win. I only want to say that I think you have a lot of potential and still a lot of time. Also your design for Ludos.com was amongst the top 3, hope this motivates you to persist in your ideas.

Best wishes,

SC

[Victoria]

Also your design for Ludos.com was amongst the top 3, hope this motivates you to persist in your ideas.

Woo! :lol2: Yes it does. :D *sips on some IRN-BRU* :tup:

[Radu]

Congrats Ondarox :tup: :tup: :tup:
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:rolleyes:

We might be interested in acquiring the rights to either ruairi's or j-desing's logo for our .net website. If you are interested please contact us and we can arrange something (Palmer if this is within your jurisdiction please let me know). The logo would need to be modified to .net and a minor slogan change (b2b innovations).

[Palmer]

Originally posted by ludos.com@May 12 2003, 12:30 PM
After an unimpressing 197 posts we finally have a winner, and well deserved.
I think you mean impressive, correct? :huh:


We might be interested in acquiring the rights to either ruairi's or j-desing's logo for our .net website. If you are interested please contact us and we can arrange something (Palmer if this is within your jurisdiction please let me know).
That's fine and not against the rules. You can just pay them directly and work it out with them via email.

Congrats Rox and thanks Stefano :tup:

[comludos]

Hi Palmer,

yes, I meant impressive response levels, maybe one too many posts from us, an unimpressive 75+. Just trying to push the guys, they have all shown great support, maybe some where put off at the start.

Ruairi, thanks for the submission, I made a mistake (it's b2b network) but don't worry about editing it now, later on, or you can update the image above.

J, if you want you can submit your updated logo (don't put letters inside the circles) and use ludos.net (both all capitals and all lower case to compare - ludos.net Ludos.NET, LUDOS.NET). The slogan is b2b network, whichever case (lower or capitals or mixed) you deem appropriate. Also the larger circle should identify Ludos (ie companies going to Ludos for b2b offers. Try with this concept, maybe using concentric circles inside it.

I will get back to you (ruairi and j) by email.

thanks,

SC

[Juvanescence]

Changes.....