[Project Complete] $200 logo project

[jcambert]

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First off, let me say that you are the most talented designers, as a group, I've ever come across. My perfume website is doing wonderfully, in no small part because of the wonderful work you guys/gals did. I wanted to thank you for that. On to the project at hand.

It's a fantasy sports website. It will be called Fantasy Sports Nuts, and the URL will be http://www.fantasysportsnuts.com

I will be providing fantasy sports leagues for baseball, football and basketball. I want the general look/feel of the logo to be something cool, manly, etc. While my perfume logo was subtle, and underspoken, I think it's alright if this logo (because of my target audience....99% men) is bold and striking. If you think otherwise, and think that underspoken might be better, I'm always willing to see what you have to offer.

Let me know if you need any further explanation.

Deadline is Monday, January 17.

thanks and I look forward to getting your submissions.

JP

[Aaron]

Welcome back JP ;) ,

Just for clarification, is the logo to contain the whole URL, or just Fantasy Sports nuts?

thanks,

Aaron

[jcambert]

I'm open to either option. I'd like to see how both options look. Both "Fantasy Sports Nuts" and "Fantasysportsnuts.com"

JP

[jcambert]

Would love to see some rough sketches, even if they aren't finished products.
JP

[Aaron]

I'll start it off... shown is a full color design, two-color version, and black and white.

[jcambert]

Aaron, can I see it with the "dot com" at the end? Also, feel free to submit another idea if you want.

JP

EDIT:

Just read this post and it comes off as if I don't like your initial offering. I like it alot, actually. Simple but elegant and professional. Either way, feel free to submit more than one idea (that goes for everyone). I hope it didn't come across like I didn't like your INITIAL idea.

[Aaron]

Hi,

No offense taken. It's hard to convey any kind of intentional inflection in text only.

Here's a version with the ".com"

[jcambert]

Thanks, Aaron. Now it's everyone's turn to join the party.

[jcambert]

Anyone else?

[JaysonC]

I'm workng on an idea!

[jcambert]

Great. I look forward to it.
JP

[JaysonC]

jp,

My VERY rough sketch of my idea. If you like it, I'll toss it into Illustrator and spice it up.

**had to take that nasty thing down.

[jcambert]

Very neat. Would love to see a more finished product.
JP

[Mowling]

Hello...here is a concept.

thanks,
M@

[jcambert]

Not too crazy about this idea, to be honest. Doesn't say enough about what we do, or why we exist.

JP

[Aaron]

What better mascot for a fantasy team than a thought bubble? :D

[jcambert]

I kinda like the first concept a little better. Do you have any other thoughts?
JP

[jcambert]

anyone else have any preliminary thoughts?

[jcambert]

Is there anyone else that's even working on something?

[Carl]

I am working on something - it's on my desktop now!!!

Carl...

[DesignGeneral]

I'm working on something too :)

Cheers,

Adrian

[Carl]

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[Aaron]

Here's another concept...


Originally posted by jcambert
I kinda like the first concept a little better. Do you have any other thoughts?
JP

[Tyler]

Here is my shot at it. What do you think JP? :D

[Paula23]

Here's another one for you. I had used the design in a concept that I had created, but it has not been sold to anyone so it is still an original concept.
Thanks,Paula

[MyChicken]

Joining in :D

[jcambert]

Keep em coming everyone...Very, Very unique stuff. Keep the ideas coming. Don't be afraid to submit more than one totally unique idea. We can work on details and color schemes later.

[jcambert]

Project deadline is only a couple days away. How come this contest is moving so slowly?

[Carl]

JP,

I think there are a few things limiting entries. First, other than the first couple of entries, there has been no feedback. There are currently 51 different logo contests going on. Without feedback it is impossible to know if we are heading down the correct path for the project.

Also, you have only had the project active for 3 days and the project deadline is only 6 days after post. Because of the quantity of projects running, designers may feel that it is just not enough time to start working on a project - especially if they aren't around during the weekend to handle revisions and changes.

Which brings the third thing - weekends. Because you only have a limited amount of time for the project, running it over a weekend will result in less entries. Many designers do not submit entries over the weekend - they have seperate lives, believe it or not. So, essentially, today was their last chance to enter the project and if they ran out of time, they would forego this project.

I will post a note to the Designers to take a look at the project and hopefully get some more activity for you. I know I plan on entering one more logo for you. Maybe even two.

Thanks!
Carl...
DO Moderator

[jcambert]

Fair enough, but, in response to those things, I posted a much higher than average $200 prize, which should offset those things. As for feedback, I am reserving it, mostly, for the winner of the contest, for tinkering purposes. Ideas posted should not be dependent on feedback. Ideas should be unique, which is why I don't like to give feedback until a winner is chosen...so as to not limit myself by giving the impression that the feedback I'm giving is what I'm looking for, necessarily.

So, again, I'm not sure why feedback would prevent people from posting, but, to be honest, I hope more people do post, as the prize that I posted should merit more entries than what I'm getting.

JP

[Rongie]

Alright then, i'll submit my entry on /or/ day before the final day ;)

[jcambert]

By the way, Carl, I really hope the fact that I don't give feedback (by design) is not the reason that people aren't posting because, frankly, if that's the case, then I think it defeats the entire purpose of a forum like this...namely the opportunity to see a multitude of unique ideas from a multitude of talented artists. If people are waiting for me to give feedback, in order to get an idea, then that's probably not the designer I want to work with anyway. I'm hoping that the rest of you immensly talented artists are going to post, because, I'm a big fan of your work and would love to see more of your unique ideas.

JP

[Rongie]

Can't wait till the last day. I was sooo inspired tonight, so here's how i play with the fantasy - sportsnuts. Hope you like it :)

[jcambert]

THAT is some funny stuff. My hats off to you. Very creative, and very, very funny.
JP

[jcambert]

If you intend to enter, please post here the fact that you will be entering, so that I don't inadvertently end the contest early, under the impression that nobody else will be entering.
JP

[Bill]

Here's a little fun with the name...

[jcambert]

Bill, thanks for the entry. Very funny, and Very creative, but, I would prefer something not quite AS convoluted, since this is going to eventually need to go at the top left of the website header, and possibly on business cards at some point as well. It is excellent, just a bit too complicated. Got anything else?

JP

[jcambert]

GP, is there any way you could play around with the concept of the woman? We would like to see a couple different looks to the woman. Maybe a cheerleader? Just a thought...suggestion...if you have other thoughts, go with them.
JP

[jcambert]

Is anyone else going to be entering?

[jcambert]

Just to remind you guys. Deadline for this contest is tomorrow, Monday, the 17th, at 8pm eastern time.

JP

[JaysonC]

Here's an idea. Let me know if you like it. I will work on fitting the name in with the mark.

[jcambert]

That's neat. Let me see your thoughts on the entire name (fantasysportsnuts), since the initials themselves are used alot by Fox Sports Net.
JP

[MOZ]

MOZ is coming, thanks for the invite!

[Flava]

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[Julie]

Here's an entry from me...

[Artemii]

Hello!
I'll try to post my entry within next 24 hours, if it woun't be too late.
Thanks!
Artemii.

[DesignGeneral]

Hi :)

[CBaker14]

I'll give it a go...post in a little while...

[jcambert]

DG: Like the concept. Nice, simple, yet professional. Would love to see a couple different options with regards to colors and fonts.

Julie: Same with you. Maybe play with the fonts and coloring a little?

Flava: Not necesarily looking for a stock photo...more of a logo. Any thoughts?

JP

[JaysonC]

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[Rongie]

GP, is there any way you could play around with the concept of the woman? We would like to see a couple different looks to the woman. Maybe a cheerleader? Just a thought...suggestion...if you have other thoughts, go with them.
JP

Hi JP, i'm doing the concept that you are requesting. I have almost 12 hrs left. I'll post it once i'm done.

Thankyou

[MOZ]

From MOZ as REQUESTED

[DesignGeneral]

Thanks for the feedback JP.

How is this?

Cheers,

Adrian

[jcambert]

DG: Thanks for the quick revision. Can you find a way to add in the ".com" also?

MOZ: The design is excellent but too convoluted. Looking for something smaller/simpler for the logo. Any thoughts?

Graphixparanoid: Take your time.

Jayson: I love the idea of the three letters with the different types of balls etched in them (baseball, basketball, football), but, we won't be using those three letters by themselves, as they are in use by another well known sports company. Any way you could incorporate them into the ACTUAL "FantasySportsNuts.com"? Maybe make the "F" the "S" and the "N" bigger than the rest of the letters with the balls etched into them?

JP

[jcambert]

DG: Also, feel free to play around with a couple different letter styles/fonts if you want.

[Flava]

Heres a quick concept, having a standard logo thats changes for each sport section on the site. This is just a quick mock , I'll have to add details and modify the different sports 'balls' and also need add the Fantasy Sports Nuts tag with and without .com Let me know if you you like the idea and I'll work on it.

[jcambert]

That's a neat idea...changing the logo for each different sport. But, I would like to see if you can incorporate that into the entire word...

I can't use those initials because "Fox Sports Network" uses them and, I don't want to cause a problem, nor do I want their to be any confusion.

JP

[Flava]

quick mock

[Julie]

Here's my revision...I'm going for the sports bar feeling if you can't tell ;)

[jcambert]

Flava: I have a question. Are you still working on the actual balls themselves? I can tell that the second one is a basketball, but, I can't quite tell what the first and third ones are. I'm guessing that the third one is a football, but, maybe you could draw the white stitching that goes along the center of a football for grip. And in the first one, if it's a baseball, maybe you could draw the stitching on that one as well?

Julie: I like it alot, but, my two partners think that it's a bit too convoluted. They are looking for something simpler. Any ideas in that area?

[jcambert]

Flava, I just noticed you mentioned that you were still working on the actual balls. Sorry bout that. Didn't notice you had said that. Take your time. My apologies.

[Flava]

Yes i want to play with the shape and details of the football and add stitching details to the baseball.

[JaysonC]

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[Julie]

And now for something completely different...

[DesignGeneral]

:)

[jcambert]

Jayson: Much better...thanks.

Julie: This is better as well. Maybe you could make a baseball, basketball and football design, somewhere along the squiggly line that you drew atop the words? Just a thought.
JP

[DesignGeneral]

;)

[shnickerdoodle studios]

Thanks for the invite.. I will have something for you by Monday 5pm est, Latest. Had my daughter in the hospital this weekend so it's been kind of hectic. If that is too late let me know..

Deanna

[jcambert]

Not too late at all. I am sorry to hear about your daughter and I hope she's doing better. I look forward to your entry. If you need more time, just let me know.

JP

[Julie]

Good suggestion--here you are...

[Mark]

Hi JP, here's my entry.

[Nfrack]

Thanks jp for the invit.... :) ....and now something different

[AlexKogan]

A relativey simple design, typography only. Works very well, nevertheless. Very good for embroidery and/or silkscreening.

[belladonna]

Hi, hope its not too late :blush: , Im working on something!, thanks for inviting me ;) .

take care
Bella

[cre8or]

Hi JP,
Thank you for your invitation.
Here is my idea for fantasysportsnuts.
Please advise,
Kimber.

[CreativeETC]

hi jp we'll send mock up

[Virgil]

Thank yiu for the invitation, I'll post my logo design in a couple of hours :)

Gilles.

[Virgil]

Hello,

Here's my first attempt :) Let me know what you think.

Thank you very much,
Gilles.

[sparkie]

I'll enter. Thanks for the invite!

[sparkie]

Here's my go at it. Colors can be changed to your liking.

[jcambert]

Cr8or: Like the look but, can you change the hockey puck to a basketball, since we're not going to be doing hockey? And, can you incorporate the slogan somewhere in there, at the bottom? And, can you add the ".com" somewhere also?

Belladonna: Not too late. I'll wait.

JP

[jcambert]

Flava: Looking forward to receiving your mockup revisiions.

JP

[belladonna]

finished! :D
I decided to explore the cheerleader option. Hope you like it!
http://www.myown.com.ar/julieta/do/belladonna_fsn.jpg

[Rongie]

;)

[JaysonC]

Im going to try one more idea for you

[jcambert]

Looking forward to it.
JP

[sparkie]

JP, any feedback on my logo idea? I'd really appreciate your comments since you were so gracious to invite me :)

[JakSmit]

Hello.

Thanks for the invite.

I don't usually do this sort of thing so don't know the way of posting the stuff.

Here is an idea, it is a scoreboard and you are winning as you are the home team. Yay!


colours:

#18305E
#1E4F89
#D62625
#DFB12F

[pracus]

some ideas:

http://republika.pl/airliners2004/fsn1.png

http://republika.pl/airliners2004/fsn2.png http://republika.pl/airliners2004/fsn3.png http://republika.pl/airliners2004/fsn4.png

[davegk]

Here's a simplistic design from me...
-David

[JaysonC]

JP,

Here is an idea that I think works well as a mark, and with text. I have attached three different looks for you viewing pleasure.

The first image is a 4 color process, with gradients
The second image is just in case you would like it in a 2 color format
The last image is black and white

[JaysonC]

sorry. I noticed the 2 color image did not have the stitching for the baseball. here it is!

[Aaron]

Last shot at it... :)

[Virgil]

Hi,

Here's a variaton of the first..let me know what you think about both :)

Gilles.

[jcambert]

Sparkie. I like it. Can you shrink it down and see how it would look smaller, since this is going to have to go at the top left of our new website?
JP

[jcambert]

Excellent work, everyone. Keep em coming. I appreciate ALL your hard work (from each and every one of you). You are all amazingly talented.

JP

[jcambert]

For those of you with extremely elaborate designs, let me just say that they are absolutely wonderful, and remarkably creative, but, I don't know if they will necessarily work for us. We are looking for a logo to put at the top left of our website header, and, eventually, possibly on a business card as well, so, while your designs are BEYOND amazing, I think we might prefer something simpler. Not necessarily something unimaginative, but simpler. Does that make any sense?

Jayson: Can I see what your design might look like if you used the graphic as the "dot" in the ".com"? And, also what it looks like if you used it as the "o" in "sports"? Do I make any sense?

Davegk: Same for you. Can I see what it would look like if the EXACT same graphic were used as the "F" in "Fantasy"? Also, I don't know if it will work but, my favorite of the four was the last one, where the graphic is slanted to one side. Maybe we could try using THAT one, and also the straight one? And, maybe we could also try a couple different colors?

Pracus: Wow. A bunch of different ideas, all very good. Can you play with the second idea a little bit? I like it's simplicity alot. Maybe you could put some sort of light stitching into the circle like a baseball? I'd also like to see the ".com" in there somewhere.

Jak: EXTREMELY creative and something I never would have thought of. But, I don't know how well it will work as a logo. Although this might be wonderful as a general graphic inside our website. Maybe we can talk later about using it as such, or, you can enter it into the template contest when we pick our logo.

Bella: Another wonderfual piece of art, but, too complex for a logo...too big, I think.

Aaron: I think my favorite was your original submission (with the .com included). It's the simplest, and yet still elegant and professional.


Hope this helps you guys out in terms of direction? I'm not too good at this. If you need more information, please feel free to ask it.
JP

[Virgil]

Hello,
Any feedback on my designs? I would also appreciate your comments :)

Gilles.

[cursal]

Thanks for the invite. :D I'll work on something today.

[JaysonC]

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[JakSmit]

Thanks very much for the glowing feedback.
I have never done a logo before and the competition on here is so tough.

I am glad to hear that you are considering posting more contests on here and would be very interested in entering them should you wish.

I don't think that I will be submitting another entry to this particular contest as I don't really have the skill in vector design to bring my ideas to life.

Good luck to everyone else, some great stuff submitted so far.

[Flava]

just letting you know that my revisions will be coming tonight

[jcambert]

Cr8or: Could I ask that you revise your #75 a tad? I would like to see how it looks without the circle atop the balls. Just curious, as I like the idea but it may be a bit too big?

Gilles: I like the different designs. I'm not sure of any revisions right now.

JP

[pracus]

http://republika.pl/airliners2004/fsn5.png

[shnickerdoodle studios]

Sorry for the delay..

Here's some:

[shnickerdoodle studios]

:)

[shnickerdoodle studios]

:d

[davegk]

Revised...
-David

[Flava]

let me know if their are any changes

[jcambert]

Dave, can you throw that circle that you had before, around the F again?
JP

[jcambert]

Flava, can you play with the fonts/coloring a little and give us a couple different options? We love your idea and love the graphic portions (the balls), but, I would like to see some options as far as coloring and fonts/letter style.

JP

[davegk]

with the circle back in and a few different color variations...
-David

[Flava]

colors can be changed to fit the website
below are some alternatives

[jcambert]

Davegk: Is there any way we could incorporate a football design and a basketball design in there somewhere, without making it more cluttered? Maybe making the "dot" in the "dot com" a basketball and one of the letters in the words a football maybe?

JP

[cursal]

How's this JP? Right direction?

[jcambert]

CreativeETC: I noticed you said you were entering. Is that still true?

JP

[Christian]

I have something in mind but it may take a day or two to find time to make it so don't know if I can beat the deadline, of which I'm unsure of at the moment.

[jcambert]

We've decided to go ahead and extend the deadline for those of you who have indicated that you will be entering but need the extension. The new deadline will be Wednesday night. So, I'm extending the deadline another 48 hours. We'll announce the winner very, very early Thursday morning. Some of you have indicated that you would be entering, but haven't yet done so....specifically:

Christian
CreativeETC
Lonelyrabbit

And any others who would like to either enter, or if you have already entered, come up with something new. I appreciate ALL your hard work. I look forward to receiving all your final thoughts in the next day or two.

JP

[CBaker14]

Hey, Here is my first attempt...let me know what you think


Chris

[jcambert]

Very neat. Very different. There won't be any golf or soccer though. Any way we can make it smaller?

JP

[davegk]

Here's a version with the other sports represented...
-David

[jcambert]

That is very cool. I like it. I will stop bothering you now. Thanks for the very hard work and the multiple revisions.

JP

[cre8or]

Here is my design, revised with a basketball in place of the hockey puck.
Please advise,
Kimber.

[davegk]

No problem!
If selected, I can always adjust colors later on if you'd like.
-David

[jcambert]

Kimber, if at all possible, as I mentioned in my other post, if you could remove the circle that circles the balls, that would be great. That might reduce the size a little, as it's a bit too big, I think.
Thanks,
JP

[jcambert]

Cursal, that's beautiful and creative, but a bit too complex. Any simpler ideas?
JP

[jcambert]

Flava. How about making all three words on the same line, and making all three balls (baseball, basketball, football) appear on top of each word as well? Maybe you could post them with the different fonts you used?
JP

[cre8or]

Kimber, if at all possible, as I mentioned in my other post, if you could remove the circle that circles the balls, that would be great. That might reduce the size a little, as it's a bit too big, I think.
Thanks,
JP



Sorry,
I didn't recall reading that request.
Please accept this newer design withoutt he background circle.
Thank you,
Kimber.

[Buginajar]

Here's a clean and simple logo.....It would look good on advertising and merchandise too.

[CBaker14]

here it is different sizes without the golf or soccor...

Chris

[CBaker14]

Here is a completly different version...I just chose red and blue but we can try different colors if you want...

Chris

[CBaker14]

Don't know what happened to this post, but you can still see to sizes...let me know if you want to see this smaller...

Chris

[jcambert]

Yeah, I'd like to see how it looks smaller. That would be great, thanks.

CBaker: Can you play with the font a little bit? Give me a couple different font options?

Buginjar: I like it. Simple, but brandable.

Cr8or: Can you shrink it down some to see how it would look as a logo on the top left of a website?

JP

[jcambert]

A reminder to those of you who have not yet entered but intended to do so. The deadline has been extended to Wednesday night, with a decision coming on Thursday morning.

JP

[CBaker14]

Which version do you want to see some other fonts in?
Chris

[cursal]

Cursal, that's beautiful and creative, but a bit too complex. Any simpler ideas?
JP


Thank you. Wiith thedeadline extented I will have another submission for you.

[pracus]

no response to my last? :(

[cre8or]

smaller

[Chocolate]

Hi JP! My two concepts for Fantasy Sports Nuts logo:

[shnickerdoodle studios]

Any thoughts on my entries?

Deanna

[jcambert]

Our favorite, of your entries, is Post #106. Clean, simple, professional. No revisions required at this time, though.

JP

[CBaker14]

Here are some different font variations on the first design...let me know what you think...
Chris

[CBaker14]

and a couple more...
Chris

[jcambert]

Chris, are the balls some sort of stock photography? Or, are they original vector graphics of yours?

JP

[CBaker14]

The balls were photographs and I took them into Streamline and converted them to vector graphics...also, did u like the second design version I posted?
Chris

[jcambert]

Yes, I did. No other revisions at this time.
JP

[eziey]

:)

[jcambert]

That's neat. Kind of a combination of all three sports...mascot type logo. Any way you could add slightly bigger shoulder pads, and thigh pads, to add to the "football player" look?

[eziey]

Dont evr try at home :) Only crazy people do that I guess..hehe

[MyChicken]

Thoght I'd try another simpler version. :)

[jcambert]

Chicken, can you play with some color options...maybe make the colors slightly bolder?
JP

[MyChicken]

A few brighter options.

The original colors were inspired by some pro football team colors...mainly Penn State and a local football team.

Let me know what you think of the new colors.

:)

[MyChicken]

:oops: Forgot something.

[Unorthodox]

:) I hope you really like it!

[jcambert]

Lonelyrabbit, thanks for the entry. We aren't necessarily looking for a mascot, or something as gimmicky as that. Something simpler, maybe, although it's brilliant, and very creative to say the least, just not exactly what we are looking for. Maybe you could play with it and make it simpler?
JP

[Unorthodox]

something simpler ;)

[Chocolate]

Hi JP! Looking forward to your feedback about my designs! :rolleyes:

[jcambert]

Chocolate, thanks for the entry but, we are looking for something simpler. Not as convoluted. It's excellent though.

JP

[MyChicken]

New color combination :)

[jcambert]

Does anyone else intend to enter anyting new? If not, we'll go ahead with an early decision. If you intend to enter, please post your intentions right away, or we'll go ahead and post our decision shortly. There are quite a few excellent entries, so our decision will be a tough one.
JP

[jcambert]

Davegk: I hate to do this to you but, you are one of our final three and, myself and my partners are in a bit of a disagreement as to what makes this logo so unique and so brandable. Please play with a couple of things for us, if it's not too much trouble:

1) Can you play with the bottom part of the "F" and NOT make it a baseball bat? Maybe, possibly, make the "t" in the first word the bat instead?

2) Can you play with the look/fonts of the "sportsnuts" and the ".com"?

JP

[jcambert]

Never mind. Actually, we've made up our mind.

First off. I wanted to thank EVERYONE for the submissions. My partners and myself spent the better part of today narrowing down to our finalists, and, we had a hard time getting that number down below 15 or so. Your inventiveness and talent are beyond comprehension and, we are eternally grateful for all the hard work that EACY of you put in. I am in awe. I can't thank you guys/gals enough.

Now, on to the winner. We've decided to go with DaveGK and the general idea of post number 121. Congratulations Dave, and, once again, thanks for the revisions and the hard work.

Having said that, we would like to tinker/play around with a couple of minor things.

1) Let's see how the "F" looks tilted to one side, similar to one of your first submissions, where the top of the F was coming down, as kind of a sledgehammer.

2) We had an idea to add some football stitching to the F, on the inside, vertically. Could you show us a couple of options in that regard?

3) I'd like to see how the F looks, if it remains straight as it is now (not slanted as in point number 1 above), if the "sportsnuts" was somehow moved over, to the right, and the bottom part of the "F" came down even further.

4) We love the lettering and look of the "antasy" but would like you to play with the lettering and look of the rest of it...maybe also take out the black shading behind the "sportsnuts."

Just some brainstorming ideas. Maybe a combination of these or something. Let me know. And, once again, thanks for the hard work. Hopefully we can hammer out the final version by tomorrow, Friday.

Thanks to EVERYONE.

JP

[davegk]

Thanks JP!
I'll get some revisions to you tomorrow.
-David

[jcambert]

I meant tomorrow, Thursday, not Friday. We'd like, if at all possible, to hammer out the final draft by Thursday.
JP

[davegk]

I'm heading to bed, but I wanted to show you this version that I was working on before you sent the comments for revisions...
-David

[davegk]

With the 'F' extended and the black box removed...
I tried rotating the 'F' but it made the word "fantasy" too difficult to read.
-David

[jcambert]

How about rotating the F but moving it up and to the left a tad, so as to make the word a little easier to read? Any thoughts?

JP

[jcambert]

Dave, a couple more revisions. In addition to what I posted in post number 162, my partner thought maybe you could put the little football at the end of the "sportsnuts" and make the "com" vertical or at an angle, after the "sportsnuts." Let me know.

Also, as a designer and in YOUR expert opinion, which do YOU think looks better...WITH or WITHOUT the black shading behind the "sportsnuts"?

JP

[jcambert]

Dave, are you still there?
JP

[davegk]

Sorry for the delay - today is very busy for me. I think the logo looks much better with the black background behind "sports nuts".

I'll play with the .com placement and rotating the "f" and post a revision soon.

Do you prefer the bat graphic on the F or the T? Also, do you like the extension of the F to the bottom of the logo?

-David

[jcambert]

We prefer it on the F as it was originally, and, we prefer the long version, as it is now. As for the background....there are three of us (partners), and, two of us think it looks better with the white background and the other thinks the black background. I think that, with the black background, it looks a bit more cluttered and adds to the things that must be looked at.

As for the delay...not a problem...take all the time you need. I will be stepping away from my desk in about ten minutes, and will be back about an hour after that, and remaining here for the rest of the day.

JP

[davegk]

a few more versions...
-David

[jcambert]

Any way that you could move the F slightly, up and to the left (very slightly) to be able to slant it a bit more? And, I think we are going to go with the white, instead of the black background. As for the .com, I'm going to have to see what they like. Could you post a white background, with the F slightly more slanted, with the .com both vertical and BELOW as you had it originally?

JP

[jcambert]

Also, when you get the chance remember the stitching in the "F" that we had asked for.
JP

[davegk]

I think the black background actually brings the logo into focus better. It seems easier to read and has a stronger overall appearance. We can still experiment with different colors which might help too, but I think the box is a good thing.
-David

[jcambert]

Ok, we can try it both ways and see how it works. Go for it.
JP

[jcambert]

Stepping away now. Be back in about an hour.
JP

[davegk]

Here's a few more... I changed the font in the bottom 2 to match the font used in "Fantasy". I think this works better for the white background.

Well, you've got quite a few versions to look at now. I'd suggest sifting through them and deciding which features to keep. I'll be out for a few hours and back around 4:30 EST.

-David

[jcambert]

Ok, we've narrowed down the two finalists to the bottom two you posted. I agree that without the black background, that font is better suited. We can't quite decide between the vertical and horizontal ".com"

A couple of things. The stitching that I've mentioned above. Also, we need to incorporate our slogan on the bottom. "Got Balls?"

Thanks for all your help and awesome response times.

JP

[davegk]

Slogan, stitching, and some more fun...
-David

[jcambert]

Wow. That's neat. You are utterly amazing. You are SO inventive. As for the slogan, it should be much smaller and much more subtle. It should be small, and on the left (not centered). Take a look at our other site: www.unlimitedperfumes.com for slogan look. It should be a small part of the logo, in our opinion, not necesarily a prominent one. Let me know. As for the other options, we are discussing right now.

JP

[jcambert]

Ok, we've ruled out the bottom right option. We really like the halo/circle around the "F." What we'd like is the slogan in quotes, smaller, and less prominent, with a left hand justification at the bottom there. Maybe even also without the black background. We're also going to do away with the stitching, as it looks better with the shadow like you had it before, instead of the stitching.

JP

[davegk]

and do you prefer the rotation of the 'F' in the top or bottom row?

[jcambert]

I kind of like it both ways really. I'm waiting for one of my partners to email me back on that variety. What I'm trying to do is pair down everything else. In essence, we are almost done. The only thing left to do is modify the look of the slogan, at which point we will submit our decision to you on which slant to choose.

JP

[davegk]

Try these out...
-David

[jcambert]

One more option and I will stop harassing you. Can you try putting the slogan along the arc of the circle atop the "F"? Make it small while still readable. I apologize for all this, we just want to make sure we get it right. You are the bes.t Thanks for your patience.
JP

[davegk]

How's this?
-David

[jcambert]

You are the best. We are going to go with Version 11, the bottom option. Your work is amazing. Thank you so much. Please email me at help@unlimitedperfumes.com

I have Adobe Illustrator 8.0 I believe, so, in addition to the jpg or gif, or whatever (i'm not too versed on this stuff), if you could email me an Illustrator 8.0 file, that would be great. We'd also like to get the "F" with the circle around it, by itself, as a separate file.

JP

[jcambert]

are you still there?
JP

[davegk]

Just emailed you the files. Let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks,
David

[jcambert]

Done. Thanks, man. I truly appreciate it. When you get the chance, email me the "F" with the slogan also, in Illustrator. Thanks again.
And, thanks to EVERYONE that participated. My partners and myself were astonished at your hard work and talent.

JP

[CreativeETC]

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