[Project Complete] Project for an innovative portal - Price: 400$ [Archive]

musti

06-28-2005, 08:56 AM

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Hi all!

My name is Mustafa, or Musti shortly.

I'm the founder of a brandnew, innovative information & online consultancy portal, BilgiKurdu. We're located in Turkey.

We are preparing the background services at the moment. But we need a foreground presentation, which will be the marketing side of our project.

So we need 1 main and 2 sub pages for it. I've prepared a brief at the following link for you:

http://www.karmaegitim.com.tr/demo/brief.doc

And you may find the resources that you need in the following file:

http://www.karmaegitim.com.tr/demo/resource.rar

I've seen your work here. :yes: And believe each one of you is brilliant, so me and my partners decided to try this site.

We need really a brilliant, eyecatching site to catch every visitor and make him/her comeback with curiosity.

We did not give any sites we like or dislike, because we didn't want to influence your creativity at this point. :cool:

Thank you for your participation in advance.

pod

06-28-2005, 10:48 AM

Merhaba Musti, :D
D.O'ya hoşgeldin projene katılmaktan büyük keyif alıcağımı bilmeni isterim.

Translation for if somebody getting curios about what I say
"Hi Musti Wellcome to D.O I'll be gladly make an entry for you"

musti

06-28-2005, 01:18 PM

Merhaba Musti, :D
D.O'ya hoşgeldin projene katılmaktan büyük keyif alıcağımı bilmeni isterim.

Translation for if somebody getting curios about what I say
"Hi Musti Wellcome to D.O I'll be gladly make an entry for you"

Teşekkür ederim. Heyecanla bekliyorum...Thank you! Looking forward to it. :D

musti

06-30-2005, 07:32 AM

Hi All! I know you're all busy, like I do, but just wondered if any entries are likely to be submitted till weekend.

Need to know this so we can adjust our roadmap.

Thank you!

Musti

pod

06-30-2005, 08:53 AM

Hi,
I am allready making a design for bilgi kurdu , but I have so much project on my table I will try to compelete yours on this sunday.

Thanks

musti

07-01-2005, 02:19 AM

Hi,
I am allready making a design for bilgi kurdu , but I have so much project on my table I will try to compelete yours on this sunday.

Thanks

Thank you Pod. I'll need at least 3 designers' entries to make a solid decision.

Luc

07-02-2005, 06:13 AM

Can you give us some high quality sites/url that appeals to you.

musti

07-02-2005, 07:14 AM

Can you give us some high quality sites/url that appeals to you.

Hi Luc. I didn't want to give you any sites not to limit your creativity. Just feel free to play with the resources I gave. I wanna see how you blend those, after then I'll give my critics or sites if really needed.

Thank you

Luc

07-02-2005, 07:19 AM

Hmm. That will be hard for me to figure out. Can you at least tell me if you are after a simple, corporate, minimal style, etc.

musti

07-02-2005, 07:56 AM

Hmm. That will be hard for me to figure out. Can you at least tell me if you are after a simple, corporate, minimal style, etc.

OK. I can tell you that I'm not a mimalistic guy. :yes: I'd prefer to have a site that would give the visitor a pleasing experience with eyecatching layout, simple navigation (but fun), more of a corporate but not too serious. Detailed explanation is on the resource.rar file. And you can check our stationaries to decide what we like.

I think you saw our mentor, he is a funny guy. :D So let's make this experience a cheerful one for us and the future visitors.

Final word; I find this site very appealing:
http://www.oyunsalonu.com . Not the colors,not the navigation but the blend of them. :cool:

Luc

07-02-2005, 11:42 PM

In your brief, you did not include the menu > Home About etc. Please give this detail.

musti

07-03-2005, 01:57 AM

In your brief, you did not include the menu > Home About etc. Please give this detail.
Hi Luc. The menu information is included inside resource.rar file under the name "buttoninformation.xls". It is an excel file. And it shows every menu and button info.

If it is the 3 buttons for Home-SiteMap-Contact you're talking about, they can take place on the right side over the top menu bar.

Thank you.

musti

07-03-2005, 08:29 PM

Does anyone have anything to submit?

musti

07-04-2005, 11:39 AM

Hi Folks! We decided to guide you a bit for the contest, because we think you're reluctant because of not having sufficient guidance.

So here are the styles we like. You can read the names and understand why we like them.

Enjoy! :D

Anne

07-04-2005, 12:59 PM

How do I open the logo file, it's a .FH11 file???

musti

07-04-2005, 01:01 PM

How do I open the logo file, it's a .FH11 file???

Freehand MX. If you can't obtain I can send you the logo in jpg.

Palmer

07-04-2005, 01:16 PM

Yes, please post the logo in .jpg, do not send it. The other designers will need it also.

musti

07-04-2005, 01:30 PM

Yes, please post the logo in .jpg, do not send it. The other designers will need it also.

Here it is. Unfortunately jpg version is a bit distorted. So I'm posting the png format. Hope it works.

geofharries

07-04-2005, 10:10 PM

Musti,

I'll get involved as long as the contest is not cancelled if you don't get the requested 3 entries. I'd appreciate your formal commitment on this request as my time is as important as yours' and other designers' here and I'd hate to see that wasted. :)

If we do proceed, will you require HTML templates to be built out or just the final artwork in either PNG or PSD format? If HTML, how many and what pages?

Finally, could you re-post that .rar file in a different format, perhaps .zip or .tar? I am on Mac OS X and can't open rar's.

regards

geof

musti

07-05-2005, 12:13 AM

Musti,

I'll get involved as long as the contest is not cancelled if you don't get the requested 3 entries. I'd appreciate your formal commitment on this request as my time is as important as yours' and other designers' here and I'd hate to see that wasted. :)

If we do proceed, will you require HTML templates to be built out or just the final artwork in either PNG or PSD format? If HTML, how many and what pages?

Finally, could you re-post that .rar file in a different format, perhaps .zip or .tar? I am on Mac OS X and can't open rar's.

regards

geof

Hi Geof. As you say time is criticalfor everyone of us. I really did my best to have anyone's attention on this contest. Unfortunately something went wrong. I'm running out of time but still running a business. :)

Anyways I'd appreciate your efforts if you get involved. My partners decided to extend the deadline till 12th.

All information you need is inside the resource file. I'm attaching it in the zip format. If any questions remain unanswered please raise your hand! :D

Thank you for your interest.

Anne

07-05-2005, 04:37 AM

Here's a start

Anne

musti

07-05-2005, 06:13 AM

Thank you Anne for the start.

-First of all, you should check out our stationaries to understand the colors we used. We want similar tones, colors also for the portal design.
-So no pink or red colors. Yellow, green and hot, ground colors.
-Logo should be smaller on the topleft. The mentor idea is cute. We may keep it.. :yes:
-For header, we would like you to use another photo. Ours is just an example. But it should give the same feeling. :rolleyes:
-You can use the wavy shape in our brochures at the background of the header.
-For top menu, we would like to have icons instead of areas over the menu bar. This should be developed in flash.
-All the menu areas (navigation, portal login, news and trainings menus) should be of different colors. Like pale green, hot yellow, and their relevant tones or colors.
-To have some eyecatching feeling you can play with the background color instead of white.

That's all for now.

Thank you

Anne

07-05-2005, 06:22 AM

I'll make the revision but if you require flash I won't. If that's the case you need to let us know so I don't waste my time and spend hours on a design that I know won't make it to the end :)

Also I am not able to open the brochure file because I don't have Freehand MX.

Anne

musti

07-05-2005, 06:27 AM

I'll make the revision but if you require flash I won't. If that's the case you need to let us know so I don't waste my time and spend hours on a design that I know won't make it to the end :)

Also I am not able to open the brochure file because I don't have Freehand MX.

Anne
OK. In our brief we said:
• Top Menu must be composed of relevant icons. When pointer is over them they must either change color, or shape. We prefer it to be developed with Flash.

So it is a preferance. If you believe you can give this effect or feeling by your own way, it is fine with us. :yes:

Anne

07-05-2005, 06:34 AM

ok, That can be made without using flash :)

Do you also have the brochures in other formats?
.jpg would be fine

musti

07-05-2005, 06:45 AM

I'm posting in zip file. I wou8ld also suggest you to check out StylesWeLike.zip file in the previous posts. This can give you an idea about what we need.

Anne

07-05-2005, 07:34 AM

Here's one with darker/sharper colors :)
Not sure about the picture though.

Is this more what you're looking for?
Anne

musti

07-05-2005, 07:42 AM

Well! If we are talking about only the colors, yes. These colors are closer to our dream. :o)

But need to see alltogehter with all the revisions I mentioned to you for your first post. We're getting closer!

Anne

07-05-2005, 07:57 AM

:) I thought I had

-So no pink or red colors. Yellow, green and hot, ground colors.
-All the menu areas (navigation, portal login, news and trainings menus) should be of different colors. Like pale green, hot yellow, and their relevant tones or colors.
-To have some eyecatching feeling you can play with the background color instead of white.

All colors changed

Thank you Anne for the start.
-Logo should be smaller on the topleft.
Logo made smaller

-For header, we would like you to use another photo. Ours is just an example. But it should give the same feeling. :rolleyes:
-You can use the wavy shape in our brochures at the background of the header.
Replaced the image and added curves. I'll search for a better picture :)

-For top menu, we would like to have icons instead of areas over the menu bar.

Changed the menu and added small icons. Maybe you are thinking of different icons for each menu item?

Anne

geofharries

07-05-2005, 08:24 AM

• Top Menu must be composed of relevant icons. When pointer is over them they must either change color, or shape. We prefer it to be developed with Flash.

I'll be using XHTML and CSS to achieve this effect - no Flash required. That way, you can use HTML text for all links which results in easier maintenance for you later on, better search engine rankings and much quicker page load times.

Speaking of XHTML, I prefer to build all websites using a tableless design; I use CSS to position all elements on a page. The result is a website that works great on Internet Explorer 5.5 and 6, Netscape 7, Firefox 1+, Opera 8 and Safari on Mac OS X. The only caveat is that it won't display properly on Netscape 4, but for that I will provide a browser upgrade page like this http://www.adiyukon.com/browser.php. If you are happy with this outcome, please let me know and I will proceed.

I can also produce a HTML table design with CSS but you'll lose some of the benefits of XHTML: cleaner code, easier maintenance for you later on, better search engine rankings and much quicker page load times.

I'll leave the decision up to you.

regards

geof

musti

07-05-2005, 01:33 PM

I'll be using XHTML and CSS to achieve this effect - no Flash required. That way, you can use HTML text for all links which results in easier maintenance for you later on, better search engine rankings and much quicker page load times.

Speaking of XHTML, I prefer to build all websites using a tableless design; I use CSS to position all elements on a page. The result is a website that works great on Internet Explorer 5.5 and 6, Netscape 7, Firefox 1+, Opera 8 and Safari on Mac OS X. The only caveat is that it won't display properly on Netscape 4, but for that I will provide a browser upgrade page like this http://www.adiyukon.com/browser.php. If you are happy with this outcome, please let me know and I will proceed.

I can also produce a HTML table design with CSS but you'll lose some of the benefits of XHTML: cleaner code, easier maintenance for you later on, better search engine rankings and much quicker page load times.

I'll leave the decision up to you.

regards

geof

OK Geof. Let's see how XHTML and CSS integrate and build an outcome! :yes: Sorry, one addition:My team is expert on ASP, .Net adn XML,HTML. If you're planning a PHP site that wouşdn't be suitable for us???

musti

07-05-2005, 01:45 PM

All colors changed

-Background color is too dark. Maybe it's better to use a pale green, like the tone in the letter K inside the logo??

Logo made smaller
Smaller we need. :yes:

Replaced the image and added curves. I'll search for a better picture :) Yes that'd be great.

Changed the menu and added small icons. Maybe you are thinking of different icons for each menu item?

-Yes I'm thinking to use different relevant icons representing the items.

-No, not all the colors changed. What I said was all the menu areas (rectangular areas) should be of different colors to enable the visitor to make distinction and choose directly what he/she wants. Simply, for the sake of an easier navigation. :D

You may use very light green for navigation menu area, a pastel tone of a ground color for training, blue for portal login area, and a pastel yelllow for news area. Blending all these is up to you! :rolleyes: Am I being so demanding??

musti

07-05-2005, 02:11 PM

Are you still willing to join this contest? ;)

pod

07-05-2005, 02:20 PM

Hi
Sorry for delay but I was so ill in the weekend I will try to compelete my design asap

Thanks

geofharries

07-05-2005, 03:07 PM

Sorry, one addition:My team is expert on ASP, .Net adn XML,HTML. If you're planning a PHP site that wou?dn't be suitable for us???

I'd deliver .html files and then the single .css file. No .php or .aspx.

geof

musti

07-06-2005, 02:53 PM

The header area should be at least 900*200 pixels.

Take care you all!

geofharries

07-06-2005, 10:25 PM

Please find attached my entry into your contest. I've used lots of complimentary colours, a warm background hue and elements from your brochures to bring together a cohesive piece.

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts and feedback.

regards

geof

http://www.yukonbiz.com/designoutpost/bilgikurdu_v1.jpg

musti

07-06-2005, 11:28 PM

Thank you Geof for your entry. Feedbacks are written over the layout.

musti

07-07-2005, 05:22 AM

Anne,
Are you gonna post any revisions according to my last reply?

Geof,
Can you give me an approximate time when you will be posting yours?

Luc and Pod,

Are you still interested?

:cool:

Anne

07-07-2005, 05:38 AM

Yes I will later today

Anne

pod

07-07-2005, 06:36 AM

Hi
Here is my first draft I am looking forward for hear from you
Thanks

Gökçe :)

musti

07-07-2005, 10:15 AM

Thanks Gökçe.

First of all your desing is a bit far away from what I've given in my brief. Actually I've given the layout so that designers wouldn't think over what to put where, and give their efforts to how to make the site shiny, eyecatching. So if you can have a look at the Mainlayout.gif in my resource file, you'd be getting closer at least to the main needs.

Artistic or graphical concerns will come later. will be waiting for your revision. :o)

Thank you for your efforts.

pod

07-07-2005, 10:26 AM

Hi,
Thanks for feedback ( I see your layout on resource folder but I just wanna try something different) I will also try to design something new for you with your layout too..

Kind Regards

geofharries

07-08-2005, 07:53 AM

Musti,

Thanks for your feedback on my design. Glad to hear you like the colours. Now about your suggestions regarding some page elements...

I can shrink the logo and line up the left/right menus - no problem. Please recognize though I raised the left menus because I felt they had more importance to the user finding their way in your website. Putting them at a higher level shows that they are key elements compared to the login box or news headlines.

Framing the header with a border would really break up my current layout, which depends on the top curve for page flow. This is something I'm not prepared to do with my layout as it would require a complete rethink on the design.

While I can add in your photo of the office guy doing a handstand as part of the curve, straight boxy shapes just won't work here.

I'd like to know your thoughts on this. If you feel that a framed header is neccesary no matter the included shapes, please confirm this design requirement. I'd based my design on your mainlayout.gif file but I did not know that straight lines were part of the standard package for this contest.

regards

geof

Anne

07-08-2005, 05:25 PM

Here's the revision, sorry it took so long but I had to put it aside for a day. Didn't know what to do with it ... still not sure if I like this version but this is what I've manage to do with the design.

Anne

musti

07-10-2005, 02:11 PM

Here's the revision, sorry it took so long but I had to put it aside for a day. Didn't know what to do with it ... still not sure if I like this version but this is what I've manage to do with the design.

Anne

Bullseye! :D

Absolutely fantastic Anne! No more revision is needed at this point from you. Thank you.

We will evaluate according to the main pages. But we'll need also the 2 sub pages after the designer chosen.

So people, We are waiting for your revisions or entries. :yes:

musti

07-10-2005, 02:22 PM

Musti,

Thanks for your feedback on my design. Glad to hear you like the colours. Now about your suggestions regarding some page elements...

I can shrink the logo and line up the left/right menus - no problem. Please recognize though I raised the left menus because I felt they had more importance to the user finding their way in your website. Putting them at a higher level shows that they are key elements compared to the login box or news headlines.
geof
Geof,
This is the approach we would like to achieve in the site. But we'd prefer giving this level of importance with differentiating the menur area colors and letting the visitor choose whtever she/he likes. We think our job corresponds to this kind of approach best. So lining up and givinf different colors to the menus is crucial.

Framing the header with a border would really break up my current layout, which depends on the top curve for page flow. This is something I'm not prepared to do with my layout as it would require a complete rethink on the design.
geof
Why framing? Because we have 2 basic aims for the area:..

1-An animated header of BilgiKurdu over the area integrated with the logo,
2-Future banner exchanges from other sites for chrged or barter deals.

So we need framed header.

While I can add in your photo of the office guy doing a handstand as part of the curve, straight boxy shapes just won't work here.
geof

Geof,
That pic. is just a sample to make you feel the mood and think "how fun it is to be in this site" from the visitors point of view. You shold suggest us a relevant photograph (having similar "corporate but funny" feeling), so we can use it on the site.

Mainlayout.gif is done to make you think over the design less, but the creativity and artistic approach more.

:D

Hope this helps!

Musti

geofharries

07-10-2005, 03:06 PM

Musti,

Thanks for the comments - greatly appreciated.

Unfortunately I need to drop out of your contest. I recently won another here at Design Outpost and need to concentrate on that...time is very limited for me and so I need to make the most of what I've got.

Looks like you've got some great entries though. Sorry I couldn't go any further - best of luck with your business!

regards

geof

Palmer

07-10-2005, 05:30 PM

Unfortunately I need to drop out of your contest. I recently won another here at Design Outpost and need to concentrate on that...time is very limited for me and so I need to make the most of what I've got.
Just to clarify what Geof is saying... his entry in this project is still able to be chosen as the winner, but he won't have the time to make any revisions to his previous entry (unless he is chosen) due to his busy schedule.

musti

07-11-2005, 12:19 AM

Just to clarify what Geof is saying... his entry in this project is still able to be chosen as the winner, but he won't have the time to make any revisions to his previous entry (unless he is chosen) due to his busy schedule.

OK. I can't see how his design is to be choseen if he doesn't show what he can do! :yes:

Anyways, Pod are you still interested in submitting your revision?

Palmer

07-11-2005, 07:38 AM

OK. I can't see how his design is to be choseen if he doesn't show what he can do! :yes:
He did :)
http://www.designoutpost.com/forums/showpost.php?p=160522&postcount=37

musti

07-11-2005, 07:46 AM

He did :)
http://www.designoutpost.com/forums/showpost.php?p=160522&postcount=37

Just from the surface! ;)

musti

07-11-2005, 08:37 AM

Allright folks!

In spite of lack of interest to the contest, we surprisingly realised that Anne's designs would be the winner if there were a few more competitors. So me and my partners chose her idea for our portal design. :D

How can we carry on from this moment? Need to communicate with you more often Anne?

Thank you,

Musti

geofharries

07-11-2005, 09:03 AM

Congratulations Anne!

geof

Anne

07-11-2005, 09:12 AM

Thank you for choosing my design :D
Since I am on vacation at the moment we can communicate through the forum, PMs. I don't have e-mail right now.

Thank you Geof

Anne

musti

07-11-2005, 01:53 PM

Thank you for choosing my design :D
Since I am on vacation at the moment we can communicate through the forum, PMs. I don't have e-mail right now.

Thank you Geof

Anne

OK Anne. Firstly do you have any other design you wish to submit? If not we can go on with the second one. I can send you 2 variations in my mind, and subtle changes over the header area. After completing the main layout, I will give you the hints for 2 sub pages.

Have a great holiday! Guess I need one as well.. :cool:

Anne

07-11-2005, 02:12 PM

No, no other designs. It would be great if you could send me the 2 variations.

Anne

musti

07-11-2005, 03:02 PM

Well,

As we looked at the main page, it seemed too colorful and less functional. What we asked for didn't seemed right. So to give it a balance, I used my superb photoshop knowledge ;) and created these two.

Take a look. And tell me your opinion as a pro. designer. :yes:

Musti

musti

07-11-2005, 03:05 PM

Second one.

Anne

07-11-2005, 04:02 PM

I like version 1 the best, it also require less images so the page will load faster.

Anne

musti

07-12-2005, 12:56 AM

OK then! Version 1 is the master one. I'm adding some changes as well for the header. (Menu areas are from the older version so don't pay attention.)

Can I see it within today?

musti

07-12-2005, 01:15 AM

I'm also adding the head line 2 photo. I've cleaned some areas. Hope it works. :yes:

Anne

07-12-2005, 04:20 AM

How is this :)

musti

07-12-2005, 04:26 AM

How is this :)
Awesome!

-Can you make the color of the "Trainings" menu header same as the "egitimlerimiz" button? (3rd on the top menu?) Since they are about the same topic, it would be nice to have the same colors.

-And, will putting some "end lines" under the menu areas, the same color as the headers, make the main page much bigger in size? If not, let's put some line as I did in var.1.

-What do you think about the header area? Is it too big? Would it look nicer and be more functional if we make it smaller? (150 px. and the worm in the middle a bit smaller?)

-About the menus: Can I see an html example of it, to see how it works, rollover effects etc.?

Anne

07-12-2005, 05:20 AM

Lines added, color changed. Also made some small adjustments to the picture in the header, Can you see the difference ? :)

I can make html for the menu later today, maybe. I am going out for dinner so it might not be before tonight.

Anne

musti

07-12-2005, 06:30 AM

Lines added, color changed. Also made some small adjustments to the picture in the header, Can you see the difference ? :)

I can make html for the menu later today, maybe. I am going out for dinner so it might not be before tonight.

Anne
Yes I can. Thank you.
I guess I'll also need to see how it would look like if we make the header area 150 px. and the worm a bit smaller. Couple of my friends told me that it looks really fine alltogether, but the header is very dominant. ;)

Anne

07-12-2005, 01:48 PM

Here's one with a smaller header. Do you have an email address where I can send the html with the rollover effect?

Anne

musti

07-12-2005, 02:51 PM

I PMed mail address.

Anne

07-12-2005, 03:35 PM

thank you, got it.

musti

07-12-2005, 04:58 PM

Allright then!

We may start the sub pages. Let's start with Sub2. You got any questions about it?

Anne

07-14-2005, 09:30 AM

Here is sub2

Anne

Anne

07-14-2005, 09:35 AM

and sub1

musti

07-14-2005, 10:16 AM

Thanks Anne.

Can you make the areas in sub 2 look more like button? They must be clickable areas, so that visitor will reach consultant's detailed CV.

Attached is what I mean :yes:

Anne

07-14-2005, 10:33 AM