IT Consulancy Website

[shearnr]

(Admin code added by Palmer - 815561B)

Background

Bamboo Consulting is an IT consultancy introducing a fresh new approach to delivering business benefit through the implementation of IT systems.

The company has been formed by experienced IT consultants who recognise that traditional consultancies do not necessarily provide services totally aligned to clients¡¦ needs. The attached document is a summary of the objectives and values of Bamboo and outlines the differentiating points between Bamboo and traditional Consultancies.

Website Brief

We require a corporate identity and (html) website template which reflects the values of Bamboo Consulting (see attached document).
The image we wish to portray is one of a fresh and innovative approach to consulting. However, we are made up of experienced professionals with an impressive track record of delivering IT solutions in complex environments and this position of credibility needs also to be reflected in the corporate identity.

The objectives of the website are:

- Create a web presence for Bamboo Consulting
- Promote the values of Bamboo Consulting (see attached document)
- Act as an online brochure that will provide ongoing information about the company and its activities

We require the website to incorporate a logo/corporate identity that can be practically transferred to stationary and business cards ¡V this is a firm requirement that the winning entry must satisfy. Currently we have no corporate identity so you are effectively starting with a blank canvas.

We already have a content management system to which we will apply the winning template, therefore we only require an html-based template (although we do not wish to discourage the use of javascript or flash devices if these add appropriate impact to the website)

Currently we envisage that the website will only require one level of navigation (perhaps 5 sections). Obviously a template that is scalable to multi-level navigation in the future will be viewed favourably but is not regarded as essential.

We will make a decision (or at least select a short-list) on 9th July.

[Palmer]

Hi shearnr
You are not permitted to start a contest until the prize money is paid first. Please follow the site guidelines (http://www.designoutpost.com/guidelines.htm) for instructions. I will re-open this thread when payment is received. If you have already paid, please contact me by clicking my email button.

Thank you.

[Palmer]

Payment received, thread re-opened.

Thank you :)

[lang]

This may be a stupid question, but it would help me out for the design. Why did you choose the name Bamboo for your company?

Thanks.

Lang

[shearnr]

It's a good question - although maybe not a very useful answer...
We were looking for a memorable name that was slighly abstract (ie. didn't try and describe what we did).
We thought Bamboo would generally be a positive image in people's minds and liked the fact that it has associations with strength and growth - nothing too deep or literall though.

[shearnr]

Please post a message if you are nterested in entering this competition, so I can get a feel for how many entries to expect.

Thanks

[marengo]

i'm in. Thanks.

[Palmer]

Me too :)

[V + E + R + T]

We require the website to incorporate a logo/corporate identity that can be practically transferred to stationary and business cards ¡V this is a firm requirement that the winning entry must satisfy. Currently we have no corporate identity so you are effectively starting with a blank canvas.

By this, does it mean it has to be in vector form?

[shearnr]

No, all I meant by this was that we want the logo design to be appropriate to use on stationary/business cards as well as on the website

- thanks for all your interest, I look forward to seeing your entries

Rich

[lang]

Ok then, I guess I'll break the ice for this one. I didn't have too much to work with in terms of conceptual ideas, but I thought this design would work well with what I got from reading your company overview. Lets highlight the key parts of the template:

Logo - I got a strong sense of collaboration, so the linking O's represents your consulting team as well as the working partnership between yourselves and your clients.
7 Icons - Your approach covers 7 main concepts, so I wanted to stress those in the black navigation bar. When your mouse rolls over an image, the concept will appear on the right hand side. Not really links per se, just something to clearly convey your approach at first glance.
Navigation bar - Scaleable for the future.And here is the template:

http://www.mynics.net/bamboo/Bamboo_v1.gif

[shearnr]

Hi Lang,

Thanks for taking the time to read the document - off to a flying start!

Here's my initial feedback, I'll split it into elements that I like & things that I would like changed - I hope that works for you....

I like:
- The linked 'O's on the logo - the collaboration concept (between client/ourselves) is spot on
- The overall 'shape' of the page in terms of space allocated to nav./content/news/header etc

I'm not too sure about:
- The colours in the logo. The blue/green 'O's are very primary looking- maybe try more natural looking colors (I like the greens in the DesignOutpost pages - not sure how they'd photocopy though??)
- I like the idea about explaining the Bamboo Approach, but fear that the rollover devices would be interpreted as links which could lead to confusion
- Could you experiment with another colour-scheme (not too sold on the blue)

Overall the screen gives a professional impression with a fresh & dynamic feel which is definately what we're aiming for

Thanks

Rich

[Ruairi]

Greetings,
here is my submission.

Let me know what you think..

-Ruairi

[shearnr]

Hi Ruairi

Thanks for entering - here's my initial feedback....

- I like that you're trying to get the company ethos across in the sidebars
- I think the header image isn't very clear (just looks blue without careful examination) and the business of the text & binary strings is a bit too "techno" for our image
- Not sold on the people-graphic. Although it's a consulting-type image I'm not sure we want to put a face up there - maybe something less literall
- could you frame the main content area more clearly (maybe just with whitespace) - it looks a bit to close to the header & sidebar.

It maybe my monitor, but the footer graphic is very faint (as is the text on the header graphic)

Hope the feedback is useful - I'd be interested in seeing another iteration

thanks

Rich

[marengo]

My conceptual idea : :)

Main page:
http://marengo.neopages.net/bamboo/1.html (with animation)
Subpage:
http://marengo.neopages.net/bamboo/2.html (rollover you can see on "our services")
I'll wait feed-back too.
Thanks :)

edit* i wrote "with animation" but it will be with animation :)
edit** demo of smal animation http://marengo.neopages.net/bamboo/animation_demo.html

[shearnr]

Hi Marengo,

I like the feel of your design - good colours etc.
The chess image is also good - indicates thought, planning, tactical moves etc
The animation is a nice touch

I have a few things I'm not sure about...

Homepage:
- the Logo needs to say Bamboo Consulting not just Bamboo (sorry brief wasn't specific)
- can you (everyone please) incorporate a client login area - we liked this idea when we saw Lang's design
- The three spaces look a bit too "boxy" (could try changing the proportions so not divided halfway down the page or using a more subtle divider than a straight line??? - not sure really - food 4 thought)

Page 2 (2.html)
- I like the consistancy of bringing the chess image through, but it looks a bit "squeezed in"
- it is likely that many of the sections (at least initially) will only have one sub-section therefore the whole sub-menu section will look very empty - can you adapt the design so that it will work with or without a sub-menu

Thanks

Rich

[marengo]

ok :) i think i can fix these things.
*edit: i'm happy you like colors (colors of bamboo) and chess :) Thanks.

[motiveX]

I should have something for this.

:flowers:

[shearnr]

great - look forward to seeing it

[motiveX]

Here is my entry:

Ahhh its good to be back designing after a week off.

http://www.placidminds.com/bamboo/template.html

:tup:

[shearnr]

Hi xteriormotive,

Thanks for the entry! Here'e my initial feedback....

- I like the logo that you've come up with
- The hands on keyboard & office-block images are cool

- The top section (right of the logo) seems fairly redundant (& we're not pushing a worldwide image - yet!)
- I think the many levels of navigation are a bit confusing - we'll want about 6 sections with maybe one or two having sub-levels needing navigation

I would be keen to see a revision with the top-right graphics removed and some simplification of the nav.

Thanks

Rich

[lang]

I went with a more earthy tone to play with the bamboo idea, although the colors can easily be changed to anything for the final product. The black bar with the 7 pictures will be changed to a small flash animation that will outline those 7 main concepts. And, the logo colors have been lesss saturated. Hope these changes look a little bit better.

http://www.mynics.net/bamboo/Bamboo_v2.gif

[marengo]

hello,
this is update.
http://marengo.neopages.net/bamboo/home.htm
subpage without submenu
http://marengo.neopages.net/bamboo/subpage1.htm
subpage with submenu
http://marengo.neopages.net/bamboo/subpage2.htm

Thank you! :)

[BrianDove]

Hi to all! Just to let you know that I'll post an entry soon :lol2:
Brian

[shearnr]

Lang - thanks for the update. The overall colour scheme is much better - not too keen on the brown in the globe graphic though - could you make it a bit greener?

Any chance of getting a preview of what the flash animation might be like?

Merengo - I think putting the client login where it is, puts the page out of balance (nice spacious graphic on top, but content squeezed in underneath). I'm not sure what the solution is though - any thoughts on balancing it out a bit?
- I like the subpages much better now - the chess graphic looks more at home

Am I starting to sound picky? - feels like it - all designs are shaping up great!

[marengo]

Originally posted by shearnr@Jul 8 2003, 10:06 AM
Merengo - I think putting the client login where it is, puts the page out of balance (nice spacious graphic on top, but content squeezed in underneath). I'm not sure what the solution is though - any thoughts on balancing it out a bit?
- I like the subpages much better now - the chess graphic looks more at home

Am I starting to sound picky? - feels like it - all designs are shaping up great!
thanks for feed-back. :) I'll re-work it and 'll post my result soon. Your remarks are reasonable.

Will you publish some news of your company on your future site? ( It's useful info for me :help: ) :lol:

[motiveX]

Originally posted by shearnr@Jul 8 2003, 02:59 AM
Hi xteriormotive,

Thanks for the entry! Here'e my initial feedback....

- I like the logo that you've come up with
- The hands on keyboard & office-block images are cool

- The top section (right of the logo) seems fairly redundant (& we're not pushing a worldwide image - yet!)
- I think the many levels of navigation are a bit confusing - we'll want about 6 sections with maybe one or two having sub-levels needing navigation

I would be keen to see a revision with the top-right graphics removed and some simplification of the nav.

Thanks

Rich
Hi Rich-

I will remove the graphics per your request, but it throws off the balance of the whole design and makes the page appear quite empty. (since the original design idea had nothing there); I added those graphics to complete the design, due to the very sparce image it creates with nothing there.

Per the navigation, the top nav. I think would be a cool feature to have (I will remove the bottom part, it was more filler than a truly functional idea). The subnav at top would not be an option, yet to show any sub pages or content that one of the 5-6 sections may hold (lets the user know what to expect).

Expect a change in about 5-12.5 mins. (strike that...maybe 15.2 minutes or 32)

:blink:

[marengo]

i have tried different ways how to improve my work. And i've changed proportions of 3 tables only. It looks better for me. I've tried move "member login" area on the top: it breaks layout. :unsure: Now (i hope) it's ok.


http://marengo.neopages.net/bamboo/homenew.htm

[motiveX]

http://www.placidminds.com/bamboo/template.html

** click EXPAND adjustments at bottom to see the changes.

Here are the changes...let me know what changes you want made to that top right portion (I particularly don't feel it accomplishes as much as the previous design, but your comments and suggestions are welcome).

Thanks,
Sean

[marengo]

wow; you work fast :D (11.5 min)

[motiveX]

Originally posted by marengo@Jul 8 2003, 11:57 AM
wow; you work fast :D (11.5 min)
That's what my girlfriend said last weekend.

:( :lol:

[marengo]

:) i can make central part wider . better so.

[shearnr]

Hi Marengo
That's looking less sqeezed! - what resolution screen will it fit on now?

(BTW - could you change the strapline to "Carefully thought out solutions" - thanks)

Rich

[marengo]

:blush: sorry for error in english. i'm french speaker . oh :squint:

As for resolution i always optimize html page for all resolutions.
This one is perfect visible for 1024*768 and 800*600 (a priori; now it's only screenshot). As for 1280*1024, for example, it looks small for me because my screen is 17''. Width of table will be fixed ***750px*** in this layout. I think it's ok.

[Palmer]

I have an entry in the works. I will post it within 24 hours. Thanks for your patience.

[marengo]

hello,

well , now i have:
http://marengo.neopages.net/bamboo/fixed.html
http://marengo.neopages.net/bamboo/subpage1.htm
http://marengo.neopages.net/bamboo/subpage2.htm

And as always critic, suggestions are welcome :) Btw, may be i can use another 3D looking image for sub-page?

Thank you! :)
*edit : i mean may be @+$ is not so good? But i want to use 3d looking metalic image there anyway.

[shearnr]

Palmer - looking forward to seeing your stuff!
Marengo - thanks for the updates. We like your logo, but are really into the interlocking 'O' concept introduced by Lang - is that something you could incorporate withing your logo style?
Lang - speaking to my partner - we like the logo now, but not totally sold on the black graphic bar - maybe a flash demo would help or suggestion of alternative?


All - we are v.impressed with the quality of designs submitted - this will be very hard to choose. Please bear with us on this "tweaking" process.

Question to all - will winning design include all original source files for graphics (e.g. photoshop files, flash code etc) so that we can modify text/designs ourselves in the future?

[motiveX]

Originally posted by shearnr@Jul 8 2003, 05:36 PM
Palmer - looking forward to seeing your stuff!
Marengo - thanks for the updates. We like your logo, but are really into the interlocking 'O' concept introduced by Lang - is that something you could incorporate withing your logo style?
Lang - speaking to my partner - we like the logo now, but not totally sold on the black graphic bar - maybe a flash demo would help or suggestion of alternative?


All - we are v.impressed with the quality of designs submitted - this will be very hard to choose. Please bear with us on this "tweaking" process.

Question to all - will winning design include all original source files for graphics (e.g. photoshop files, flash code etc) so that we can modify text/designs ourselves in the future?
Any comments on my revision(s)?

:crying: :cry: :whistle2: :cowboy:

[Palmer]

Originally posted by shearnr@Jul 8 2003, 07:36 PM
Marengo - thanks for the updates. We like your logo, but are really into the interlocking 'O' concept introduced by Lang - is that something you could incorporate withing your logo style?

That's langs own creation so it would be against the designers rules to have another designer use it in their template.
Originally posted by shearnr@Jul 8 2003, 07:36 PM

Question to all - will winning design include all original source files for graphics (e.g. photoshop files, flash code etc) so that we can modify text/designs ourselves in the future?
I'll answer for everyone. Yes those are included with the html template.

[shearnr]

Sean - sorry I didn't post feedback after your last change :oops:
I still think the header section is too big. Can you lose the content to the right of the logo & shift everything up so that the nav. bar sits higher on the page?

thanks

Rich

[shearnr]

Palmer - :blush: sorry - I didn't mean to encourage rule breaking!
Thanks for the info on source files

[motiveX]

Originally posted by shearnr@Jul 9 2003, 02:21 AM
Sean - sorry I didn't post feedback after your last change :oops:
I still think the header section is too big. Can you lose the content to the right of the logo & shift everything up so that the nav. bar sits higher on the page?

thanks

Rich
I will certainly make this change...but I think it's really taking away from the design.

Change shall come tomorrow, since its 5am and im just gettin ready for bed.

:o :(

[shearnr]

All
In the brief, I said we would make a decision or at least a short-list today. I can be a bit flexible on time if there are still changes/entries coming in.
KoolBrian/Palmer - are you still going to enter?
Lang - are you going to submit a final revision?

Thanks

Rich

[lang]

Hi Rich,

For some reason I wasn't happy with the color scheme of the last revision, so I played around with it a bit to make it look cleaner. Please let me know if this looks better (or worse!). Thanks.

http://www.mynics.net/bamboo/Bamboo_v3.gif

[motiveX]

Here ya go.

I decided to do it before I hit the padded platform.

http://www.placidminds.com/bamboo/template.html

Please click ----expand for #002 at the bottom for a capture of the top half of the design.

Thank you,
Sean

[shearnr]

Hi Lang - much better color scheme - like it lots!
2 questions for you
- when clicking on a section link (e.g. Services) - do you intend just the content in the white are to change or should it be a different template for sub-pages?
- is the "bamboo approach" now bullet point text or are you still thinking of a flash device?

Hi Sean - thanks for postponing your sleep and making these changes against your better judgement. Personally, I think it looks much better now - the navigation is sitting nearer the top of the page where I would expect it. Thanks

[Palmer]

My effort. If you click on the link, keep in mind the white border on the top and left will not be there when it is converted to html...
http://www.yourwebbuddy.com/templates/bamboo/1.png
http://www.yourwebbuddy.com/templates/bamboo/1.png

[shearnr]

Thanks Palmer - nice design! - I'll post some more feedback when my partner has had a chance to look at it as well.

Could you add a client login area somewhere though.

Thanks

Rich

[Palmer]

Sure will. I'll add it to the entry up there and it will show up in a few minutes.

[Palmer]

Ok, the log in box has been added, you may have to refresh.

[Ruairi]

Here's an updated version.
http://www.wwwzone.net/demo/do/bc/

Let me know what you think.

-Ruairi

[shearnr]

OK everyone, the time has come to select a shortlist.
I'd like to thank everyone for their entries to this competition - we have been hugely impressed by the quality of the work & all of your talent (I'm never going to attempt to design a site myself again!)

The two designs we would now like to concentrate on are from Lang & Marengo. We would like to choose the winner by the end of the week (or sooner). Just a few things we would like to explore in relation to each design:

Lang:
1) Can you clarify how the navigation would work if one of the sections reuiqred sub-navigation (e.g. Services may have 3 sub-sections)
2) As I've mentioned before, we like the interlocking 'O's in the logo, but could you make the "BAMB" part of the logo look a bit more interesting?


Marengo:
1) The letter spacing on the strapline "Carefully thought out solutions" is not consistant - could you fix this.
2) Can you change the $ to a £ on the sub menu
3) The submenu still looks a bit sparse (too much whitespace) - any ideas
4) Could you show us how the site would look with the logo slightly larger
Qusetion - if we went with your design, would you provide alternatives to the "@/£" graphic (1 for each subpage)

Thanks for your patience with the tweaking process!

& big thanks to everyone else who entered - I'm sure we'll be back!

Rich

[marengo]

Originally posted by shearnr@Jul 9 2003, 04:22 PM
Marengo:
1) The letter spacing on the strapline "Carefully thought out solutions" is not consistant - could you fix this.
2) Can you change the $ to a £ on the sub menu
3) The submenu still looks a bit sparse (too much whitespace) - any ideas
4) Could you show us how the site would look with the logo slightly larger
Qusetion - if we went with your design, would you provide alternatives to the "@/£" graphic (1 for each subpage)

Thanks for your patience with the tweaking process!

& big thanks to everyone else who entered - I'm sure we'll be back!

Rich
i'll post update tomorrow (i'm Belgian, and it's 2.00 AM here ). Larger logo? ok. I can provide alternative 3D looking gfx, of course if it'll be also so simple as this one. (I'll show you some examples tomorrow too , so you can choose). Thanks :)

Edit* May be you can give us the titles of each section of your future site? (services; about; clients ...) Thank you!

[lang]

Hi Rich,

I'll work on your revisions and have the final template up today for your judging. Regarding your sub-section question, this can be done in a number of ways. The content of the subpages (if there is not too much) can all be fit into the Services page, which would essentially fit 3 pages into one. The user would click on Services, be taken to that page, and then given the option of exploring the subpages.

We could also go with a DHTML menu if you'd like, which could reveal the sub links once the mouse moves over Services. We could also just make the menu with the sub links in plain view under Services. Which would you prefer?

[shearnr]

marengo. re: the section titles - we're still not sure so stick with what you've got- Are the links at the top of the page (green background) imagesor text - if they're images, I'm assuming that you'll supply the layered source file so that we'll be able to edit them later.

- we're in London so we should only be an hour different

[shearnr]

Lang - I think I'd like to the DHTML option - thanks

[shearnr]

Hi Marengo - forgot to mention, please can you change bamboo.com to bamboo-consulting.com in the footer - thanks

[marengo]

ok :) i'll upload my work soon. (need 2-3h). Thanks

[marengo]

Changed the $ to a £ . As for subpages I think they looks ok. We have to remember about content too. Well designed content text is an important part of any design and pro looking site. I've made the logo slightly larger and created alternative icons (examples).

well:

main page
http://marengo.neopages.net/bamboo/main.html

subpage1
http://marengo.neopages.net/bamboo/sp1.htm

subpage2
http://marengo.neopages.net/bamboo/sp2.htm
Demo icons (shadows are not fixed there):

http://marengo.neopages.net/bamboo/icons.htm
If you'll choose my design i'll make "bamboo" stamp on eash icon.

Now i'll work with flash :) Let me know what do you think and if you have some ideas i'll realize them. Thank you!

Edit* of course photoshop files will be with all layers, so you can modify source easy

[shearnr]

Thanks for the update Marengo. Point taken re: the subpage text.
Could you size/position the logo so that it lines up horizontally with the start of the navigation bar.

Thanks

Rich

[lang]

Yes/No?

[lang]

A quick example of the menu: Template (http://www.mynics.net/bamboo/bamboo.htm) :)

[marengo]

Originally posted by shearnr@Jul 10 2003, 05:10 AM
Could you size/position the logo so that it lines up horizontally with the start of the navigation bar.

so? :) http://marengo.neopages.net/bamboo/main.html (re-fresh)

[shearnr]

Wow - you're both firing on all cylinders today!

Lang:
- love the logo
- like the submenu device, but can you apply it to the original menu look as apposed the green boxes

Marengo:
- Logo position/size is good now
- Can you make the flash strapline say "Carefully thought out solutions" (as is) followed by "Carefully delivered results" - we'd like both lines to remain on the screen after the reveal, so maybe have the second line in smaller text underneath what you have already

Thanks all - I expect this to be (probably) the last round of mods - could be in a position to make a decision tonight (UK) time or tomorrow at the latest.

Thanks

Rich

[marengo]

Originally posted by shearnr@Jul 10 2003, 06:21 AM
- Can you make the flash strapline say "Carefully thought out solutions" (as is) followed by "Carefully delivered results" - we'd like both lines to remain on the screen after the reveal, so maybe have the second line in smaller text underneath what you have already

hello,
i'm not too good in animation :unsure: So, i think you wanted something better (i've understood your idea, just i can not realize it fast) . May be this version will be good (at least it's "elegant" :lol: and thanks for permanent animation your visitors will read your slogan?)

http://marengo.neopages.net/bamboo/animati...ation_demo.html (http://marengo.neopages.net/bamboo/animation/animation_demo.html)

thanks! :) (if you don't like it absolutely, i'll try again :)

EDIT*** update is here:
http://marengo.neopages.net/bamboo/animati...ion_demo_3.html (http://marengo.neopages.net/bamboo/animation/animation_demo_3.html)

[shearnr]

OK - not keen on the wavey effect though - can you get rid of that, so it's just static after the text has been revealed

I really wanted the second line to be in a smaller font and the first in the original - is that the hard bit?

[marengo]

i'm really sorry: i am not a flasher :( i can make only 2 separate files as here:
http://marengo.neopages.net/bamboo/animati...ion_demo_3.html (http://marengo.neopages.net/bamboo/animation/animation_demo_3.html)
(i used 2 colors: related logo and site )
thanks, :)
Nathalie
speed, size i can fix as you want. Simple :P

[Palmer]

Originally posted by marengo@Jul 10 2003, 01:36 PM
i'm really sorry: i am not a flasher :(
In my country a flasher is someone who wears a long coat without any clothes on underneath. They then walk around town pulling open their coats and "flashing" strangers. :D This language barrier can be funny :)

[marengo]

Originally posted by Palmer@Jul 10 2003, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by marengo@Jul 10 2003, 01:36 PM
i'm really sorry: i am not a flasher :(
In my country a flasher is someone who wears a long coat without any clothes on underneath. They then walk around town pulling open their coats and "flashing" strangers. :D This language barrier can be funny :)
:lol: hahaha :D :tup:
from google 1st page
http://www.flasher.it/
http://www.rusflasher.com/ http://www.artflasher.com/
http://www.flasher.ru/

[lang]

How's this? Here (http://www.mynics.net/bamboo/bamboo.htm)

[BrianDove]

Heres my entry:
Feedbacks Welcomed ;)

[Palmer]

Ummm, they have this contest narrowed down to 2 entries. You may want to withdraw that one and enter it in another contest.

[shearnr]

Well we've finally reached a decision, which wasn't easy as we liked both designs very much.
Because our initial requirement is to create a web presence and develop our brand, we've decided that Marengo's design offers us slightly more opportunity to do that through the use of images.

However.......
We would like to use the logo from Lang's design. Lang, could you contact me through email and let me know if you are willing to sell the logo design and if so, for how much.

Marengo,
- we would like you to incorporate Lang's logo into your design (might have to change the blue to a grey tone to be compatible??)
-We need to discuss with you which 3D graphics you will be providing us with for the sub-pages.
-We would like 2 versions of the flash that you have demonstrated - the original reveal with just one strap line and the final version with both strap lines.

Thank you both for all your effort, as I said before we are hugely impressed with your talent & will no doubt be back on designoutpost in the future with more competitions. :notworthy:

Rich

[Palmer]

Congrats Marengo on your first win. It was only a matter of time :clap: Please contact me with the information on how I can get you the prize money. I prefer PayPal or 2Checkout.com

Thanks Rich, looking forward to seeing you around here again. Tell your friends about us. Best of luck with Bamboo. :tup:

[marengo]

wow! great! 1st win here :tup: it was difficult, all designers are so talanted here!
thanks alot, Rich! It was really interesting to work with you :)

edit* Rich, i've PMed you. Will wait your email. Thanks again :)

[BrianDove]

Congrats Marengo :) nice shot brew.

:cry:


:bash: Why do I post my entries too late :(

[lang]

Congratulations on a great design, Marengo! :tup:

Rich, I shall PM you shortly. :)

Lang

[marengo]

logo received. Thank you , Lang! :)