Flash version of Logo *Project Over*

[nrcmedia]

(Admin code added by Palmer - 549402)

We have had this logo made and would like to convert it to flash.
http://energy-spiritual-healing.com/Fireworks/energy-spiritual-healing-2.png

The starting logo is shown as a png file which was converted from gif and is flat. No other files exist. All files including FLA and all rights are passed when job is complete. The final image may be used with various different domain names though the initial domain is as shown.

I'd like the lighthouse to be about 15-20% larger and more 3D.

I want a light beam coming from the light house to:

1. Travel in a 360 degree circle from the perspective of the viewer being directly in front, taking about 3 secends per full round on a fast computer (normalized as much as possible to the 3 seconds for all computer and modem speeds).

A. When the white/yellow beam hits the viewer straight in the eyes I would like it to create a sense of welcome, safety and "coming home" using calming colors, such as blue's green's, white's and maybe even a bit of purple, keeping it a bright light, not a dark light. The size of the circle of the direct view of the light would be equal to 100% of the lighthouse. This will require adding the more with to the left of the lighthouse. Keep the light beam arced and the length similar to it's existing length on the right. The left wont be that wide so have it move fast through the left side where the beam is cut off, than any other area, still maintaining the total 3 second speed.

B. Within this light it might be cool to put the subtle (something like a watermark), alternating words Energy ... Spiritual .... Healing, one word per cycle so that it takes 3 cycles to see all three words and then the set of those 3 cycles loops. The words hitting the viewer only when the light beam is coming straight into their face.

C. When the beam is furthest away from the viewer, it would be a bit darker and disappear to create the sense of how an actual lighthouse works.

2. The lettering.

A. I would like the words to shimmer like water in mostly blue shades (optionally, with possibly a gradient of greens and subtle hues of purple). Again we want the feeling to be inviting, safe and homey, not flashy or obnoxious.

B. Move the ".com" to the lower right corner and put the letters "com" vertically and larger to fit the height of the main letters.

C. Fonts: Something like Eros Demi ITC, Lucida Bright or Ariel Rounded

The site is about to go into a full redesign, and a flash intro will be made that incorporates many aspects of the final logo. We would like to complete the contest by July 20.

[Tyler]

That is quite the vision! I may give it a go so expect something next week.

[echer]

Dear Sir,

I just registed into designoutpost and I waiting a sign from you.

Best regards,
Marian Hangiu
Creative Director
Echer Media

[Palmer]

echer - Only members of the Design Team are permitted to enter contests, please follow the site guidelines (http://www.designoutpost.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=4&t=35&s=). Thanks :)

[Klaas Koopman]

erm he is a member!

[Palmer]

He is now because I just invited him. He wasn't when I posted that. If your portfolio looked like this ( http://www.echer.com) you'd get invited too. :tup:

[Klaas Koopman]

**** he's good indeed, palmer, when do you want to see some of my stuff. i'm not as good as him to make a site, but does it need to be in a site? i don't make much... since i can't code them!

[Palmer]

You can send me some samples when you have 5 completed.

ps-Do me a favor and don't post in the contest forum. It interferes with the contest. Thanks.

[nrcmedia]

Hello all,

I'm wondering if we are asking for too much, whether there are not many flash people or :blink: if I posted this to the wrong forum? I'm getting a little concern over the lack of interest. :help: Please offer some feedback, even if it doesn't make sense for you to participate. :help:

Since echer is new, here's the link to their 1st draft - 1st Draft e-s-h flash logo (http://work.echer.com/logoesh.html) I'll comment in next message.

Thanks all for your interest.

Forrist

[nrcmedia]

Thanks. Echer for getting this started - 1st Draft - e-s-h flash logo (http://work.echer.com/logoesh.html) First off, let's stop any shadow on the lettering. On the lettering we were hoping for more of an almost water feel, kinda shimmery. I've seen some gifs this way. Also, a different type style, probably closer of the same as the original.

Let's make the lighthouse and the letters about the same size, reducing this lighthouse and increasing the letters.

Tonight we went to the movings and saw a great logo for a studio, i forget which one but it had a light house with the light going around and a moon coming up behind the lighthouse. Of course I'm not suggesting to use or copy theirs, but it was a nice depection.

The light beam needs to be reduced in size so that it is the same or not much bigger than the lighthouse.

Ok guys, we're ready for cander and honesty (actually we're always ready for that...). Are we nuts :o and asking for something that is not going to really work? What do you think?

[Palmer]

Echer you need to post his/her entries on the forum.

Forrist, I'll move this thread to the logo forum in hopes that you will get more entries. We have enough designers that work with Flash, I'll ask them to participate in your contest. :)

[Palmer]

This contest will close in 12 hours if there are no entries.

[cre8or]

I will come up with something for you, but I may need a bit more time than 12 hours.
(Not that it'll take 12 hours to complete, but I do need a bit of an extension)

If you'd still like to close it after 12h, I'm sorry I couldn't help.
I've got some Flash cookin' but I have a few things to take care of before I get back to it.

Thanks,
-Kimber.

[Michael]

Hi, the same as Kimber I will work on something and try and get it done within the 12 hour deadline.


Michael

[Michael]

I'm playing on the light house for now, please Click here (http://www.2square.co.uk/contests/lighthouse.html) and let me know if I'm going in the right direction.

Many thanks.


Btw: if someone can tell me if the movie looks jagged? does to me

Michael

[Victoria]

Very jagged.. :ph34r:

[Michael]

Originally posted by Victoria@Jul 14 2003, 02:45 PM
Very jagged..  :ph34r:
Thanks Vic, that's strange because view the swf on my HD no problems but upload to the web its jagged <_<

*Edit*
Silly me, some how dropped in a toggle quality cmd :blink: I've used an action script to keep the file size down (sitting at just under 5k)

Should be better now.

[FTIGraphix]

Yeah I don't see any "jaggedness". You must have fixed it....

[nrcmedia]

Comments from Marlana: http://energy-spiritual-healing.com/Images/LightHouse-small.jpg

We are making progress!!

I love the look of the light, how it swings around, and you can still see through it.

I would like for it to cycle around just a little bit slower, maybe 25% slower than it is.

The Lighthouse is coming along, I'm including a picture of a lighthouse that I really like. I'm thinking that the color of the lighthouse we are working on can also be white, and the shadowing that makes it 3D can be done in shades of blue which will draw the blue from the rest of the image's lettering.

Within this light it might be cool to put the subtle (something like a watermark), alternating words Energy ... Spiritual .... Healing, one word per cycle so that it takes 3 cycles to see all three words and then the set of those 3 cycles loops. The words hitting the viewer only when the light beam is coming straight into their face. Each word would be a different color:

Energy; blue
Spiritual; purple
Healing; Green

The font will match the font within the rest of the image. I'm also thinking that the light beam itself needs to be a paler shade of yellow.

That's it for the light house and for the lettering of energy-spiritual-healing.com, it is essentially the same request as #2. in the first post.
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From Forrist:

After studying the logo and the lighthouse, it looks like it would be difficult to create a beam during the right portion of the swing that is substantially different in size and width then the beam during the left portion of the swing. So, how about this.

Put the lighthouse behind the lettering, maybe the equivallent of a light screen so something (mainly to keep the domain name clearly legible.) The heigth of the capital letters to be 75% or so of the Lighthouse heigth. Placing the lighthouse behind the ' i ' of -spir i tual- (the leading is changed here only for showing which 'i').

Our hope is that if we want to apply the lighthouse to a different domain name, it could be done in a similar way by changing the layer containing the energy-spiritual-healing (.com is vertical)

Thanks, again Michael for picking up the touch as it were to work on this.

Forrist

[lang]

Hey, so is there a definite deadline on this?

[Palmer]

Yes, since someone has entered and others plan to, the deadline is as originally stated, the 25th.

[Michael]

Don't know if this is what you want..this is just something simple.

Lighthouse (http://www.2square.co.uk/contests/lighthouse.html)


Michael

[echer]

I'm still working on it.

[nrcmedia]

We'd love to see some other work to compare with.

Echer - your link wouldn't work for me. When I looked at the attached htm file, there was not a hard url to your swf file. Please repost with a hard url.

Michael - yours is coming along. The lighthouse works for Marlana. It was an interesting idea for the reflection, however, let's go ahead and remove it, as it seems too much like the lighthouse is sitting on a mirror instead of ground. For yours, we are getting closer. Add the barely visible text into the lighthouse beam during the few frames of direct focus, using the same colors of the words as you've used in the e-s-h lettering. Also, if you would, rename the file so that we can go back to review prior versions as we go forward.

Also, would you make it in to fit within approx - 350 wide x 125 tall pixels to us an idea how how it would look on the site.

We'd like to keep the 25th deadline but if there is someone who is going to contribute for sure and you need a couple more days, please let me know. - Thanks - Forrist

[cre8or]

Hello Forrist,
I would like to post my flash for your consideration.
lightHouse (http://www.kimberart.com/clients/lighthouse.htm)

To see it again from the beginning, just hit "refresh".
I'll look forward to your comments.
-Kimber.

[nrcmedia]

Marlana; I love the purple in the beam of the lighthouse as its moving from center to left. When that beam settles to a stop, it seems like it needs purple in the beginning of its beam then gradiating to a paler yellow than the solid yellow that it currently is. I'd like to see what it looks like without the inward curl around the letters that it currently has. I'm wondering if it might give the sense of reaching out to others if the beam simply went of the edge more like a real light beam.

I like the look of the your lighthouse, except that I would like to see a door in it, to make it more inviting, more like someone has to go in there to create the light. The lettering; The font is great. Though I really like the blue shades, it creates a feeling of icy water on the letters. I want a warm, welcoming feeling, so I'm thinking that the letters need to gradiate from navy blue upward to pale green? The lighthouse can be white using blue to create depth and shadow. The overall effect being warmer feeling, more inviting.

[Michael]

Originally posted by cre8or@Jul 20 2003, 08:33 PM
Hello Forrist,
I would like to post my flash for your consideration.
lightHouse (http://www.kimberart.com/clients/lighthouse.htm)

To see it again from the beginning, just hit "refresh".
I'll look forward to your comments.
-Kimber.
Nice one Kimber..

[lang]

Quick and painless animated version of your logo.

Simplicity (http://www.mynics.net/lighthouse/index.htm)

[morgoth87]

im in, just got home from a trip, but I can't find any good pictures of a lighthouse without any background... If anyone would be willing to show me a couple Id be grateful. Thanks

[Michael]

Originally posted by morgoth87@Jul 21 2003, 01:48 PM
im in, just got home from a trip, but I can't find any good pictures of a lighthouse without any background... If anyone would be willing to show me a couple Id be grateful. Thanks
morgoth87 you need to be a member of the Design Team to submit anything for a contest read the guidelines here (http://www.designoutpost.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=4&t=35&s=), if you haven't already apply here (http://www.designoutpost.com/apply.htm) and your portfolio will be looked at.

Good luck


Michael

[morgoth87]

ok, just read that after i posted and i submitted the information

[cre8or]

Originally posted by nrcmedia@Jul 21 2003, 02:29 AM
Marlana; I love the purple in the beam of the lighthouse as its moving from center to left. When that beam settles to a stop, it seems like it needs purple in the beginning of its beam then gradiating to a paler yellow than the solid yellow that it currently is. I'd like to see what it looks like without the inward curl around the letters that it currently has. I'm wondering if it might give the sense of reaching out to others if the beam simply went of the edge more like a real light beam.

I like the look of the your lighthouse, except that I would like to see a door in it, to make it more inviting, more like someone has to go in there to create the light. The lettering; The font is great. Though I really like the blue shades, it creates a feeling of icy water on the letters. I want a warm, welcoming feeling, so I'm thinking that the letters need to gradiate from navy blue upward to pale green? The lighthouse can be white using blue to create depth and shadow. The overall effect being warmer feeling, more inviting.
Forgive me if I seem a little slow...
I'm assuming these comments are directed at me. (my lighthouse).
If I am correct in my assumption, I'll be happy to cook up those changes,
and post them, probably later tonight when I'm home.
Thank you for your consideration.

[Michael]

Hello,

Just to say i haven't forgotten about your request for changes on my submission.

Look as if you have some more choices now :tup:

Michael

[nrcmedia]

Yes, Kimber. You are correct. Sorry for dropping that.

And yes, 2square, thanks for letting us know you are processing and it is great to have some more ideas to look at.

Lang. Thanks for your contribution. Marlana and I are headed out for a walk to discuss this and listen to the birds. :)

Forrist

[cre8or]

I believe I've covered the changes that were requested.
please advise.

LightHouse Revised (http://www.kimberart.com/clients/lighthouseRevised.htm)

Thank you,
-Kimber.

[nrcmedia]

Marlana: Oh Kimber, I'm loving it!!! Just one little touch of purple in the door and I think that will do it. Maybe it would gradiate yellow going in then purple as it is deeper inside... play with it and I think you will know what works best. The letters are awesome! I love the rippling and the colors are just what I was hoping for! And you got the beam to look like it's going all the way around!! Great job!

Forrist: Nice job, Kimber. :tup:

We noticed it seems to be slow in loading and we are on cable. Would you include two links next time, One the size you are currently working with and one the size we would use - approx - 350 wide x 125 tall pixels. This is looking cool and we might want to use it for a couple of out websites, please palmer or kimber drop me a priv msg with how we go about that if we simply want to change the domain name, say next mo or in 6 months.

Michael, how is yours coming along?

[Palmer]

I think you would need the Flash program to change the name. Kimber (or anyone else) will correct me if I'm wrong.

[cre8or]

Originally posted by nrcmedia@Jul 23 2003, 04:20 AM
Marlana: Oh Kimber, I'm loving it!!! Just one little touch of purple in the door and I think that will do it. Maybe it would gradiate yellow going in then purple as it is deeper inside... play with it and I think you will know what works best. The letters are awesome! I love the rippling and the colors are just what I was hoping for! And you got the beam to look like it's going all the way around!! Great job!

Forrist: Nice job, Kimber. :tup:

We noticed it seems to be slow in loading and we are on cable. Would you include two links next time, One the size you are currently working with and one the size we would use - approx - 350 wide x 125 tall pixels. This is looking cool and we might want to use it for a couple of out websites, please palmer or kimber drop me a priv msg with how we go about that if we simply want to change the domain name, say next mo or in 6 months.

Michael, how is yours coming along?
I can make those changes tonight, no problems.
Also, it's only 48.3Kb, so I have no idea why it's taking it's time to load on your Cable.
I have DSL here at work, and it was "instant", and dial-up at home, it still was pretty fast.

I'll have a good look at it tonight, and see if I can make it any smaller, without compromising it.
Thank you for your feedback.
-Kimber

[cre8or]

Palmer is correct, to my knowledge, you would need Flash to make any changes to the native .fla file.

[Michael]

Yes I'm so sorry for not posting any changes I will work on it...


Michael

[Michael]

Hello,

To create the stunning effect of the light on the lighthouse I’ve used some Action Script instead of frame-by-frame animation, this way I can keep the file size down (at the moment it's just over 8k)

Because I've used action script I've been finding it hard (:cry: come on Michael pull yourself together you tutor classes on this stuff) to create the effect you want of the text appearing in the light. So what I have done which you will see is put the lighthouse in a nighttime environment (which is when a lighthouse is on) and blended the text into the background.

Have a look and please tell me what you think.


Lighthouse #2 (http://www.2square.co.uk/contests/lighthouse2.html)

Michael

[cre8or]

Hello,
I just posted the new flash with the pruple in the door.
Please advise.

BIG little (http://www.kimberart.com/clients/lighthouseRevisedAGAIN.htm)

Thank you,
Kimber

[Christian]

Hey there, here's my entry, if you want anything changed, just say the word! It's 5.5 kb I think.

Lighthouse Flash (http://www.aquagecko.com/misc/DO/Lighthouseflash.html)

[nrcmedia]

Kimber, You've got it. We have no more changes to suggest, though I do have a question. I do have flash as part of the macromedia suite but I don't use it much. We're wondering if the background can be transparent like a transparent gif?

Having, flash, would changing the domain name & background be simply making a change on the respective layers?

Great job. Thanks Forrist & Marlana

[Christian]

Hey there, was I too late with my design?

[Michael]

Well done Kimber :tup:


Michael

[Palmer]

Originally posted by nrcmedia@Jul 25 2003, 04:20 AM
Kimber, You've got it. We have no more changes to suggest, though I do have a question. I do have flash as part of the macromedia suite but I don't use it much. We're wondering if the background can be transparent like a transparent gif?

Having, flash, would changing the domain name & background be simply making a change on the respective layers?

Great job. Thanks Forrist & Marlana
You're just saying there are no more changes needed right or are you declaring a winner? Christian also had an entry on page 3 you may have missed.

Let me know :)

[Christian]

Here it is! This time did it following your instructions more closely.

Lighthouse2 (http://www.aquagecko.com/misc/DO/Lighthouseflash2.html)

[Michael]

Christian your movie is not loading..

[Palmer]

Did for me :tup:

[Michael]

Originally posted by Palmer@Jul 25 2003, 02:17 PM
Did for me :tup:
Edit

Its working now

[cre8or]

Originally posted by nrcmedia@Jul 25 2003, 04:20 AM
Kimber, You've got it. We have no more changes to suggest, though I do have a question. I do have flash as part of the macromedia suite but I don't use it much. We're wondering if the background can be transparent like a transparent gif?

Having, flash, would changing the domain name & background be simply making a change on the respective layers?

Great job. Thanks Forrist & Marlana
I'm glad you like it.
I'm not sure about transparency in Flash.
I'll have to look into that for you.
I may be able to do it with another piece of third party software.
(I'll look into that tonight -- I'll see if I can do that with mProjector).

I can however, make it play on top of your webpage, like this.
KimberArt Flash-over (http://stampede.wearethe.com/contest/kimberly/kimberart.htm)

-Kimber

[nrcmedia]

Hey guys & dolls,

Michael, sorry about not mentioning your work. Thanks for the work to attempt to give us what we were asking for. The action script was a great idea. Kimber captured Marlana with her design.

Christian, thanks for your entry. There are a number of things that aren't working for us on the design, and at this late hour, we are going to refrain from detailing them. Thanks though for your interest.

Yes, Palmer, let's declare the winner in Kimber's design. We can work out the details of changing the domain & background directly. Palmer, thanks for all your help in getting this contest going.

Forrist

[Palmer]

Thanks Forrist, glad we were able to help you out and thanks to all the members of the Design Team who participated. You saved the day yet again :wub:

Most importantly... congratulations Kimber!!! <img src='http://www.designoutpost.com/images/winner_first_h4h.gif[/img]

[cre8or]

Right on.
Thank you very much Forrist and Marlana.
I'll get in touch tonight when I get home from work, if that's good.

(Whew... tough one... I didn't realize we had so many "Flashers")
:)

[Michael]

Originally posted by cre8or@Jul 25 2003, 08:34 PM
(Whew... tough one... I didn't realize we had so many "Flashers")
:)
Yeh I try to keep it quiet, I actually tutor classes on Flash mainly schools I go and give talks on animation in Flash as that is my hobby (have had some work featured on Cartoon Network)

But again congrat's Kimber and thank you nrcmedia, no worries on not mentioning mine I'm just glad you got what you wanted in the end.


Michael

[cre8or]

Originally posted by 2square@Jul 25 2003, 04:22 PM
(have had some work featured on Cartoon Network)


That is SO COOL, Mike.
I would cut off my er... LEFT hand to have a cartoon on the air!
(Even if it was just a "short")

I make cartoons when the mood strikes me... nothing that would fly mainstream, though.

[Christian]

Hey congrats Kim! ;)

I know this is over but was just wondering if you could point out what you didn't like about my second design just so I can have it in mind for other projects.

And cartoon network! whoa, definitely awesome.