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ToddM
03-02-2006, 06:25 PM
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Hi all,

We’re building a Requirements Management System within Microsoft Word that we (creatively) call “RMS”. This is an internal application for our company that will help manage requirements that flow from our business folks to our development folks and testers and then out to our Production website. The requirements, authored in Word, will be stored as XML in a database. (Our unofficial tag line is ‘the flexibility of Word with the power of a database’.)

We’re looking for a logo for RMS that we can put on this Word-based tool in the Task Pane. (See attached file for approximate image placement.) We’d also like to use this same logo as an icon for the desktop shortcut icon that will launch RMS. We may even use the RMS logo for internal newsletters and other sorts of branding.

The logo should use the acronym “RMS” and should convey a sense of being streamlined or efficient. We also would like RMS to have a feel of being collaborative and innovative. We are a fun company so it shouldn’t be too corporate, and it should fit comfortably within the Word application. I’ve given a little context on the application and how it will be used, so if you had any ideas on incorporating a graphic/icon with the letters “RMS”, that’d be great too.

So I guess the final output would be in a *.png or *.gif file, and a *.jpg too (for flexibility). Once we settle on a logo, if you could create an *.ico file for the desktop shortcut icon, that’d be great too.

Thank you very much.

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Project Summary:
What text should be included in the main part of the logo?
RMS (and possibly any graphic or icon that you think would help convey the streamlined/efficiency feelings mentioned above)

What type of product or service do you offer?
Requirements Management. Business people enter requirements for new company projects in Microsoft Word. Developers and others review the requirements and build according to the specifications. The end result is a new feature on our company website.

How long have you been in business?
N/A

What do you hope to accomplish with your new identity?
This is just an internal tool for our company. But this tool should be a more fun, albeit structured, way of entering project requirements and making sure they get developed as envisioned.

What are your long term goals?
Acceptance of this application within the company by the people who are being asked to use it.

When is the deadline for final entries before choosing a designer?
Wednesday, March 8th

Audience Profile:
Please describe your existing audience
The main users of RMS will be ‘product managers’ who work with the business to generate requirements for our developers.

Who would you like to add to your audience?
Developers and QA engineers will also use RMS.

Perception/Tone/Guidelines:
What type of logo would you like?
A cool, hip logo that conveys efficiency and being streamlined. Something that creates a sense that this tool will aid in collaboration and requirement reuse.

Do you have any colors in mind for your logo? (if so, why?)
Blue is fine, as it fits within the default color scheme for Microsoft Word 2003. But it could be more exciting than that. I hear orange is a power color.  Whatever.

Do you have any specific images or icons in mind that you would definitely like to see incorporated into your logo?
Nothing definite.

Communication Strategy:
What attributes would you like your logo to reflect about your business?
Fast and efficient.

What is your tagline or slogan?
The flexibility of Word with the power of a database. It’s just our unofficial tagline and doesn’t have to be included with the logo. (There probably isn’t the room in the Task Pane of MS Word.)

What is the overall message you are trying to convey to your target audience?
This is a great tool to use to author and manage your requirements. It’s efficient and will help all involved as the requirements flow through the lifecycle of the project.

Where will your new logo be used?
Initially in the task pane of Microsoft Word. (see attached.) We’ll also use this in newsletters, emails, maybe even t-shirts.

Competitive Positioning:
Who are your competitors and what do you think about their logos?
This is internal, so we have no competitors.

List competitive URLs if possible

What sets you apart from your competitors?

Targeted Message:
State a single-minded word or phrase that will appropriately describe your company:
Efficient

Taldo
03-03-2006, 01:18 AM
hi :)

ToddM
03-03-2006, 11:30 AM
Looks pretty good, though I think it looks a little too futuristic/spacey. I think I’d like something a little crisper. A little snappier. Maybe a little more fun. Thanks.

joshuamings
03-04-2006, 07:11 AM
Here is something that is edgier, streamlined, fast, and very versatile.
Josh

http://www.joshuamingsdesign.com/designoutpost/rms/v1_0.png

Blesseville
03-04-2006, 01:38 PM
Integrating a db (cubes) and a Word sheet.

http://www.medigraph.net/do/rms1.jpg

Senter
03-04-2006, 04:59 PM
http://www.thinkkre8tiv.com/designout/RMS1.png

Unorthodox
03-05-2006, 01:16 AM
:)

Blesseville
03-05-2006, 04:48 AM
A less colorful version of my previous submission:

http://www.medigraph.net/do/rms1-1.jpg

ToddM
03-06-2006, 11:25 AM
Here is something that is edgier, streamlined, fast, and very versatile.
Josh

http://www.joshuamingsdesign.com/designoutpost/rms/v1_0.png

Hi Joshua – I like the speed in your design, though I’m not as fond with the serifs on the letters. It reminds me of a letterman’s jacket with the High Schools initials emblazoned on it. Anyway, we can streamline it? Thanks.

ToddM
03-06-2006, 11:26 AM
Integrating a db (cubes) and a Word sheet.

http://www.medigraph.net/do/rms1.jpg
Hi Medigraph – I like the icon of a database cube and document image. Good combination of what RMS is about. I like the color versions of that icon better than the black and white (the b/w document image looks a little like the state of Utah). The font is pretty good. Any other options that would jazz it up a bit?

ToddM
03-06-2006, 11:26 AM
Hi Bart – The tagline seems a little small and probably won’t be readable if were to put it as is in the Word Task Pane. Anyway we can make it larger? The logo is clean, but is there anyway to make it more fun/exciting? Thanks.

ToddM
03-06-2006, 11:27 AM
Hi Unorthodox – the icon is bold, but a little sharp. It reminds me of a throwing star or a something a little too gothic. The font is okay –though it could be more exciting. I also think the tag line should be either split into two phrases or offset in some way. Maybe the ‘with’ could be replaced with a dash. Thanks.

ToddM
03-06-2006, 04:31 PM
This looks good. Pretty simple. We were wondering if the the graphic at the end of the S could be a document that is becoming digitized or something? It'd be nice if that tied in to our application somehow.

And is the S line thickness thicker than the other letters?

Blesseville
03-06-2006, 10:36 PM
Hello Todd,

Here's an addition to the original icon, another cube to signify integration. The b&w version is just to show you how it approximately look in b&w and must be included in logo presentations in Design Outpost :)

Regards.

http://www.medigraph.net/do/rms1-2.jpg

joshuamings
03-07-2006, 03:19 AM
Here is a more streamlined version.
Josh

http://www.joshuamingsdesign.com/designoutpost/rms/v1_1.png

djaka
03-07-2006, 05:24 AM
any comments are welcomed :)

glyphica
03-07-2006, 11:13 AM
Well, for some reason my posts disappeared, but here is the latest version again with the orange document being digitized, as well as a thinner S and an example of what your logo might look like on your document. Let me know if there are anymore changes you would like to see. Thanks again!

ToddM
03-07-2006, 12:21 PM
[QUOTE=joshuamings]Here is a more streamlined version.
Josh

Looks better, Joshua. Thanks. As for the coloring, could we try the blue background with R being red, M being yellow, and S being green?

ToddM
03-07-2006, 12:23 PM
Well, for some reason my posts disappeared, but here is the latest version again with the orange document being digitized, as well as a thinner S and an example of what your logo might look like on your document. Let me know if there are anymore changes you would like to see. Thanks again!

Looks good. (And I too was wondering why your post disappeared.) Could we try reversing the icon? It looks like the digitized version is turning into a document. I'd like to try having the document turn into a digitized version. We'll see if that works.

ToddM
03-07-2006, 12:27 PM
any comments are welcomed :)

Thanks Djaka. My first reaction is that the spines coming off the R look a little too sharp and prickly. I think you did that to show speed, but I think we could soften it a bit. Also the graphic of the database to document has the right concept, but someone on the team (not me) thought it might resemble toilet paper. :blush: So maybe don't have the unwrapping. Maybe it is just a document on a database. Thanks.

glyphica
03-07-2006, 12:54 PM
Ok, I flipped the document around to make sure it was being digitized. Let me know if there's anything else you would like to change :)

joshuamings
03-07-2006, 01:52 PM
Here is a version with the revised coloring.
Josh

http://www.joshuamingsdesign.com/designoutpost/rms/v1_2.png

aD
03-07-2006, 04:51 PM
Here is one from me. Horizontal layout - so it could fit the space in the toolbar nicely.
The letters are connected to suggest about connectivity, streamline and interaction.

http://www.orkacomputers.com/anton/do/rms1.gif

djaka
03-07-2006, 06:46 PM
Thank you for your feedback
this is revision to the concept.

:)

Artemii
03-07-2006, 07:00 PM
Hello! :)

Artemii
03-07-2006, 07:05 PM
:)

ToddM
03-07-2006, 07:29 PM
Ok, I flipped the document around to make sure it was being digitized. Let me know if there's anything else you would like to change :)

Hmmm. Maybe if the digitized part blended into the document part it would transition better. Could you try and smoothing those a little bit more? And the black and white version looks a little funny there at the 'document' to digital transition. I think smoother would be the desire there too.

Senter
03-07-2006, 09:14 PM
Todd.. I am working on some more for you!

ToddM
03-07-2006, 09:47 PM
Here is one from me. Horizontal layout - so it could fit the space in the toolbar nicely.
The letters are connected to suggest about connectivity, streamline and interaction.

Looks cool. It has a nice glow. I'll submit it to the team to see how they like it. Thanks.

ToddM
03-07-2006, 09:50 PM
Todd.. I am working on some more for you!

Ok. A lot of the logos look good. So I'm passing them around the team to see how the votes turn out. We'll decide in the next 24 hours. Thanks.

djaka
03-07-2006, 10:44 PM
:)
another alternative

ToddM
03-08-2006, 10:47 PM
Thank you for your feedback
this is revision to the concept.

:)

Hi all,

We greatly appreciate everyone's time and effort in pulling together logo's for our RMS application. After much thought and debate, we've decided to go forward with "djaka" as our designer.

We look forward to finalizing the logo/icon.

Thanks again to everyone for their submissions,
Todd

djaka
03-09-2006, 03:55 PM
Hi Todd,
thank you for choosing my design,
I am waiting for your direction to finalize the design.

kind regards,
djaka
:)

ToddM
03-09-2006, 05:13 PM
Hi Todd,
thank you for choosing my design,
I am waiting for your direction to finalize the design.

kind regards,
djaka
:)

Hi - the team liked version 2 more than version 3. As for how to enhance version 2, I'm not sure. It may be good as is. If there is anything you want to try to spiff it up (if that's possible), we'd be happy to see it, but I don't have any specific requests as yet. (It was hard enough to get the team to decide on a designer.) I'll solicit the team for any specific feedback and get back to you.

I'm assuming that when we finalize the design, can you create an *.ico file to turn the design into a desktop icon, in addition to the *.gif / *.jpg that we'd use for the application?

Thanks,
Todd

djaka
03-09-2006, 05:42 PM
okay,
I can do the *.ico file.
thank you
ragards
djaka
:)

djaka
03-09-2006, 08:09 PM
this is a little refinement to the logo.
:)

ToddM
03-10-2006, 11:22 AM
this is a little refinement to the logo.
:)

I like it. I'm checking with the team for any other 'minor' mods. I'll get back to you. Thanks.

ToddM
03-10-2006, 11:40 AM
Here's a comment I received. "Oh, I do like that better. I didn’t see that there is a [database] on the left and a document on the right. I thought there were just a bunch of flames coming out of the “R”. Anyway to make it even more obvious for the [database]?"

ToddM
03-10-2006, 01:48 PM
And could we see what it'd look like with our tagline underneath? It could be "the flexibility of Word with the power of a database" or if it'd work better, "the flexibility of Word, the power of a database". Thanks.

djaka
03-11-2006, 04:03 PM
Hi Todd,
This is the option with tagline.
It is common that the logo is not obvious for the first viewer. Like the carrefour logo, not many people recognize the C in the logo, but after somebody told them then they easily understand that.

thank you
kind regards
:)

ToddM
03-13-2006, 03:19 PM
Hi Todd,
This is the option with tagline.
It is common that the logo is not obvious for the first viewer. Like the carrefour logo, not many people recognize the C in the logo, but after somebody told them then they easily understand that.

thank you
kind regards
:)

People are liking version B. Can we see what the logos would look like with the 'with' added back into the tagline to replace the comma? Can we also try a '&' instead of 'with'. And how about a pipe '|' or something else to set off the two phrases? (I'm not digging the comma.)

ToddM
03-16-2006, 10:01 AM
People are liking version B. Can we see what the logos would look like with the 'with' added back into the tagline to replace the comma? Can we also try a '&' instead of 'with'. And how about a pipe '|' or something else to set off the two phrases? (I'm not digging the comma.)

Hi djaka - any chance for an update?

Thanks,
Todd

djaka
03-17-2006, 07:06 AM
Hi Todd,
Sorry for the late response, I will send the revision tonight.
regards
djaka

djaka
03-17-2006, 04:20 PM
Hi Todd,
This is the revision.
I made some alternatives to the tagline. Let me know if you need some more tweak in the tagline.
thank you
kind regards
djaka :)

ToddM
03-21-2006, 04:50 PM
Hi Todd,
This is the revision.
I made some alternatives to the tagline. Let me know if you need some more tweak in the tagline.
thank you
kind regards
djaka :)

I think we're almost there. There has been a lot of discussion on this so I'm wondering if we can try a couple more flavors. Could we see version 'A' with a '&' instead of a 'with'? Could we also see version 'C' with a blue dot separator instead of the '|', and also with a red dot separator? I assume for all of these, the red color of the tagline matches the red of the document fold down. At least we want the reds to match.

When you're done, reprint the old 'A' with the new 'A' and the old 'C' with the two new 'C's. I think that will help. Thanks again.

djaka
03-21-2006, 08:05 PM
Hi Todd,
This is the revisions as requested.
I hope one of them is the right one :)
thank you
regards
djaka

ToddM
03-22-2006, 12:17 PM
Hi Todd,
This is the revisions as requested.
I hope one of them is the right one :)
thank you
regards
djaka

Great! We all agree that "D" is the right one. Thanks for your efforts.

Now the final thing is the icon. Could we see the RMS logo (without the tagline) as an icon AND, to compare/contrast, could we see just the 'S' (with the blue backing and red triange fold) as an icon? We think the 'S' alone might look better than a real small 'RMS'. Not sure.

As for the dimensions, it looks like Microsoft recommends 48x48, 32x32, and 16x16. http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnwxp/html/winxpicons.asp

Thanks!

djaka
03-22-2006, 04:45 PM
Hi Todd,
This is the icon options
:)

ToddM
03-23-2006, 01:31 PM
Hi Todd,
This is the icon options
:)

Hi Djaka,

The team is really liking the logo and icons. A comment that was shared by the group was they liked the 'b' icon, but thought it'd make more sense to have an 'R' with the database lines as opposed to an 'S' with the database lines. We want people to think 'R' for Requirements (instead of 'S' for System). So can we do version 'b' with an R instead? We don't need a document turn down on the 'R'.

Thanks.

djaka
03-23-2006, 04:28 PM
Hi Todd,
This is the icon, with R instead of S.
I hope this is right :)
thank you
regards
djaka

ToddM
03-24-2006, 01:25 AM
Hi Todd,
This is the icon, with R instead of S.
I hope this is right :)
thank you
regards
djaka

You got it. The team really likes the logo, the icon, and all the hard work you put in to customizing it. Thank you VERY much.

This design is complete! We look forward to getting the files. (I assume they'd be *.png and/or *.gif, and *.jpg, and an *.ico file for icon.) Thanks.

djaka
03-26-2006, 10:12 PM
Hi Todd,
I have sent the link to the files through your private message.
please check it.
thank you
regards
djaka